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Here are the facts.
♣ LP is a 70 year old man.
♣ He has devoted his life to law in one form or another and even served his country in the United States Air Force for several years.
♣ He does make money at his living (bounty hunter) but then again, don't we all?
Do we all get to catch and put away BAD PEOPLE for that money? NOPE-I sure don't anyhow.
♣ He is a father and a grandfather to quite a large number of kids.
BUT I honestly do believe in my heart of hearts that he got as obssessed with Caylee as WE all have, and he happened to be a TV personality and a very wealthy man of means and had the ability (along with the obssessive motivation that has kept US at it all this time:crazyto delve in just a wee bit deeper than any of us have. I would bet you money that it was because of his love of his own children/grandchildren that he ever accepted the invite into this HELL in the first place. He is a man of depth and of intelligence and he is also out to make a buck...aren't we all? Do we not each and every one attempt to further OUR careers in one way or another each and every day? So does he. Unfortunately, like it or not, HIS particular career puts him in the crime-light/lime-light, and a man's gotta do what a man's gotta do...Should he turn down the Nancy Grace shows from which he makes money each day that adds to his own family's upkeep? Why should he? He is a player in this the same as all the rest and if the Anthony family can market Caylee and try to TRADEMARK her very name, then why should any of the lesser players not also take a few crumbs as they fall from the table? (The Anthony's, the entire crooked defense, KidFinders, the PI's all corrupt ALL profiting BIGTIME!) Obviously someone somewhere thinks something of LP, because he is a REGULAR on NG and has been interviewed many times by several news agencies. He is a man in the know, and THAT seems to bother so many people...that little old Leonard P. KNOWS things that WE are not priviledged to know. Why would this bother anyone? No idea...It does not bother me in the least.
♣ LP knew that whatever was purchased at JC PENNY was to REPLACE something else that might have been lost while disposing of Caylee...we do not know the end of this one YET, but we DO know that receipt was with-held by Cindy and there had to be a REASON for it. LP KNOWS...we do not.
♣ LP knew about the chloroform and many other things before any of us knew and he told us in advance that as details began to emerge we would be SHOCKED! I do not know about ya'll, but I have had the pants shocked off of me on a regular basis since then.
♣ Nobody brings any kind of legal action against LP even though he has said some OUTLANDISH things...why is that? Because he is "swatting the hive" so to speak, and INVITING someone to bring legal action so he will have the right to DEPOSE. He WANTS someone to sue him as far as I can tell and then he will get the sweet nectar of deposing them to the nines. Nobody bites.
♣ LP told us the Anthony's refused lie detectors (all of them) and that LEE was instrumental in convincing them all NOT to do poly's.
It is remarkable to me that any of us believe that a good or bad comment about LP will not be responded to. There are 2 camps and one camp hates him and everything that he stands for in THEIR opinion, and they are ready and willing to let everyone know it at EVERY turn. The other camp is standing at the ready to defend LP when these "turns" turn into a winding road to nowhere except saying the same things again and again in a different structure of sentences.
♣ Some folks hate LP.
♣ Some folks love LP.
♣ Some folks sit on the fence and hate him some days and praise him other days.
For all of us there are choices.
► We can NOT go to the LP threads if they bother us so much whether we be lovers or haters.
► We can NOT watch his interviews.
►We can skip the discussion if we do not have anything NEW or PRODUCTIVE to add besides negativity based singularly on opinion or positivity based soley on opinion.
We need to look for the FACTS and if we are going to express our opinions, good or bad, especially about Mr. Padilla, then we may as well EXPECT the retaliation of one camp or the other issuing an assault on WHATEVER we stated, be it good or bad. It is just the nature of this beast and like it or not, he IS a player in this case.
In the words of a great moderator, let's just agree to disagree...and be nice while we do it. I mean, we ARE after all Websleuths, and what we are ABOUT is solving the case, not all this bickering that we seem to not be able to get beyond for any length of time. It is not helping Caylee for us to hate or to love Leonard Padilla...so let's figure out a way to disagree and keep on looking for ways to bring JUSTICE FOR CAYLEE!
As for me, I admire and like Mr. Padilla from what I can tell from afar. I think he is more determined than ANYONE to see Caylee vindicated and I applaud him for his efforts, no matter WHAT his motivation IS...Kudos Leonard-thanks for the laughs and the thought provoking tidbits and the even outlandish lies!(I mean "theories"...but when YOU have a wrong thought/idea it is a lie and when anyone else does, it was a wrong "theory") I wish you had been MY grandpa as I am sure that you and I would have been great friends because I sometimes like to "swat the hive" myself...sometimes there is nothing else TO do.:waitasec:
Great post Magic-Cat!
I agree.. LP has done SO much trying to find Caylee.. and vindicate her loss. he's a good egg!
I noticed it in his eyes when said he now realized that Caylee was intentionally murdered. Looked like deep, genuine sadness to me.
I hope I did this right. Mydailyopinions posted her comment on the Caylee Funeral thread and I answered there. I brought it over here because I think it deserves to be posted here on the LP Confidence thread too. I posted my opinion under the Original post, so I don't need to say any more:
*Original Post*
Quote:
Originally Posted by mydailyopinions View Post
This will be the only time I can make an accurate judgment of LP. If they state he cannot be there, and shows up anyways, then I guess I will have to jump on board with ChillyWilly..If he is respectful and doesn't show, then I'll keep my original thoughts of him.
I don't think it is right by any means, but I hope he prevails as the good guy when its all over with!
My response:
What an excellent post! CA has said she does not want LP at the memorial, and whether we agree with what she says, or even whether she has a right to 'bar' someone from a public memorial, she has made her opinion known. Now it is all up to LP, isn't it? He can show up and try to get in, knowing that the cameras will be trained on him because everyone knows the Anthonys don't want him there. If he does that, the ensuing circus will pull the focus away from Caylee yet again. He will have tons of air time when he responds to his being asked to leave, etc. Everyone will jump in with how they feel about this and this forum will be difficult to get onto because we will ALL be voicing our opinions. That is one scenario.
The other scenario is that LP stays away from this memorial so the spotlight is on Caylee and only Caylee. The thousands of people who have taken this little girl into their hearts can either go or watch it on TV (if it is televised) and there will be no controversy - just a sad good bye to Caylee who captured our hearts back in July.
I agree with the OP, this will be a true test of LP and his reasons for still be in and around this case. I will be most interested to see which path LP chooses.
Haven't we already been through this before? I recall RG stepping in to hold a "vigil" because of Cindy's rants before.
I would not be surprised if RG didn't hold a public memorial separate to anything the A fam does for the people who would not want to be associated in any way with them.
Just for the "Record" - Because It seems there are those who are "keeping Score"
Since LP was wrong about it being an accident he immiedietly put a NEW theory out there
Here is LP's new & improved latest Theory.....
=================================
PADILLA: She taped her mouth shut and asphyxiated her.
GRACE: Well, just taping the mouth shut does not lead to murder --
PADILLA: Well, if she gave her chloroform first, I mean. Put her out with chloroform, then asphyxiated her
==================================
As far as LP being a "Big Man" for admitting when he's wrong......How could he possible not admit he was wrong?
Nancy called him on it & she has video to back it up....Whats LP going to do ....Deny he said it?
As I've made obvious I'm not an LP fan, but... didn't NG ask (demand) that he give her a new theory?
Here are the facts.
♣ LP is a 70 year old man.
♣ He has devoted his life to law in one form or another and even served his country in the United States Air Force for several years.
♣ He does make money at his living (bounty hunter) but then again, don't we all?
Do we all get to catch and put away BAD PEOPLE for that money? NOPE-I sure don't anyhow.
♣ He is a father and a grandfather to quite a large number of kids.
BUT I honestly do believe in my heart of hearts that he got as obssessed with Caylee as WE all have, and he happened to be a TV personality and a very wealthy man of means and had the ability (along with the obssessive motivation that has kept US at it all this time:crazyto delve in just a wee bit deeper than any of us have. I would bet you money that it was because of his love of his own children/grandchildren that he ever accepted the invite into this HELL in the first place. He is a man of depth and of intelligence and he is also out to make a buck...aren't we all? Do we not each and every one attempt to further OUR careers in one way or another each and every day? So does he. Unfortunately, like it or not, HIS particular career puts him in the crime-light/lime-light, and a man's gotta do what a man's gotta do...Should he turn down the Nancy Grace shows from which he makes money each day that adds to his own family's upkeep? Why should he? He is a player in this the same as all the rest and if the Anthony family can market Caylee and try to TRADEMARK her very name, then why should any of the lesser players not also take a few crumbs as they fall from the table? (The Anthony's, the entire crooked defense, KidFinders, the PI's all corrupt ALL profiting BIGTIME!) Obviously someone somewhere thinks something of LP, because he is a REGULAR on NG and has been interviewed many times by several news agencies. He is a man in the know, and THAT seems to bother so many people...that little old Leonard P. KNOWS things that WE are not priviledged to know. Why would this bother anyone? No idea...It does not bother me in the least.
♣ LP knew that whatever was purchased at JC PENNY was to REPLACE something else that might have been lost while disposing of Caylee...we do not know the end of this one YET, but we DO know that receipt was with-held by Cindy and there had to be a REASON for it. LP KNOWS...we do not.
♣ LP knew about the chloroform and many other things before any of us knew and he told us in advance that as details began to emerge we would be SHOCKED! I do not know about ya'll, but I have had the pants shocked off of me on a regular basis since then.
♣ Nobody brings any kind of legal action against LP even though he has said some OUTLANDISH things...why is that? Because he is "swatting the hive" so to speak, and INVITING someone to bring legal action so he will have the right to DEPOSE. He WANTS someone to sue him as far as I can tell and then he will get the sweet nectar of deposing them to the nines. Nobody bites.
♣ LP told us the Anthony's refused lie detectors (all of them) and that LEE was instrumental in convincing them all NOT to do poly's.
It is remarkable to me that any of us believe that a good or bad comment about LP will not be responded to. There are 2 camps and one camp hates him and everything that he stands for in THEIR opinion, and they are ready and willing to let everyone know it at EVERY turn. The other camp is standing at the ready to defend LP when these "turns" turn into a winding road to nowhere except saying the same things again and again in a different structure of sentences.
♣ Some folks hate LP.
♣ Some folks love LP.
♣ Some folks sit on the fence and hate him some days and praise him other days.
For all of us there are choices.
► We can NOT go to the LP threads if they bother us so much whether we be lovers or haters.
► We can NOT watch his interviews.
►We can skip the discussion if we do not have anything NEW or PRODUCTIVE to add besides negativity based singularly on opinion or positivity based soley on opinion.
We need to look for the FACTS and if we are going to express our opinions, good or bad, especially about Mr. Padilla, then we may as well EXPECT the retaliation of one camp or the other issuing an assault on WHATEVER we stated, be it good or bad. It is just the nature of this beast and like it or not, he IS a player in this case.
In the words of a great moderator, let's just agree to disagree...and be nice while we do it. I mean, we ARE after all Websleuths, and what we are ABOUT is solving the case, not all this bickering that we seem to not be able to get beyond for any length of time. It is not helping Caylee for us to hate or to love Leonard Padilla...so let's figure out a way to disagree and keep on looking for ways to bring JUSTICE FOR CAYLEE!
As for me, I admire and like Mr. Padilla from what I can tell from afar. I think he is more determined than ANYONE to see Caylee vindicated and I applaud him for his efforts, no matter WHAT his motivation IS...Kudos Leonard-thanks for the laughs and the thought provoking tidbits and the even outlandish lies!(I mean "theories"...but when YOU have a wrong thought/idea it is a lie and when anyone else does, it was a wrong "theory") I wish you had been MY grandpa as I am sure that you and I would have been great friends because I sometimes like to "swat the hive" myself...sometimes there is nothing else TO do.:waitasec:
IF and WHEN there is a public service for Caylee, everyone who can attend has the right to attend. I could care less what the Anthony's think or feel. If they want to exclude anyone, then they should hold a private and NO public service.
LP has as much right to be there as you or I or anyone does, IF there is a public service.
Not being snary, but I don't think LP gives a hoot or his hat what you or anyone else thinks about his motives.
Here are the facts.
♣ LP is a 70 year old man.
♣ He has devoted his life to law in one form or another and even served his country in the United States Air Force for several years.
♣ He does make money at his living (bounty hunter) but then again, don't we all?
Do we all get to catch and put away BAD PEOPLE for that money? NOPE-I sure don't anyhow.
♣ He is a father and a grandfather to quite a large number of kids.
BUT I honestly do believe in my heart of hearts that he got as obssessed with Caylee as WE all have, and he happened to be a TV personality and a very wealthy man of means and had the ability (along with the obssessive motivation that has kept US at it all this time:crazyto delve in just a wee bit deeper than any of us have. I would bet you money that it was because of his love of his own children/grandchildren that he ever accepted the invite into this HELL in the first place. He is a man of depth and of intelligence and he is also out to make a buck...aren't we all? Do we not each and every one attempt to further OUR careers in one way or another each and every day? So does he. Unfortunately, like it or not, HIS particular career puts him in the crime-light/lime-light, and a man's gotta do what a man's gotta do...Should he turn down the Nancy Grace shows from which he makes money each day that adds to his own family's upkeep? Why should he? He is a player in this the same as all the rest and if the Anthony family can market Caylee and try to TRADEMARK her very name, then why should any of the lesser players not also take a few crumbs as they fall from the table? (The Anthony's, the entire crooked defense, KidFinders, the PI's all corrupt ALL profiting BIGTIME!) Obviously someone somewhere thinks something of LP, because he is a REGULAR on NG and has been interviewed many times by several news agencies. He is a man in the know, and THAT seems to bother so many people...that little old Leonard P. KNOWS things that WE are not priviledged to know. Why would this bother anyone? No idea...It does not bother me in the least.
♣ LP knew that whatever was purchased at JC PENNY was to REPLACE something else that might have been lost while disposing of Caylee...we do not know the end of this one YET, but we DO know that receipt was with-held by Cindy and there had to be a REASON for it. LP KNOWS...we do not.
♣ LP knew about the chloroform and many other things before any of us knew and he told us in advance that as details began to emerge we would be SHOCKED! I do not know about ya'll, but I have had the pants shocked off of me on a regular basis since then.
♣ Nobody brings any kind of legal action against LP even though he has said some OUTLANDISH things...why is that? Because he is "swatting the hive" so to speak, and INVITING someone to bring legal action so he will have the right to DEPOSE. He WANTS someone to sue him as far as I can tell and then he will get the sweet nectar of deposing them to the nines. Nobody bites.
♣ LP told us the Anthony's refused lie detectors (all of them) and that LEE was instrumental in convincing them all NOT to do poly's.
It is remarkable to me that any of us believe that a good or bad comment about LP will not be responded to. There are 2 camps and one camp hates him and everything that he stands for in THEIR opinion, and they are ready and willing to let everyone know it at EVERY turn. The other camp is standing at the ready to defend LP when these "turns" turn into a winding road to nowhere except saying the same things again and again in a different structure of sentences.
♣ Some folks hate LP.
♣ Some folks love LP.
♣ Some folks sit on the fence and hate him some days and praise him other days.
For all of us there are choices.
► We can NOT go to the LP threads if they bother us so much whether we be lovers or haters.
► We can NOT watch his interviews.
►We can skip the discussion if we do not have anything NEW or PRODUCTIVE to add besides negativity based singularly on opinion or positivity based soley on opinion.
We need to look for the FACTS and if we are going to express our opinions, good or bad, especially about Mr. Padilla, then we may as well EXPECT the retaliation of one camp or the other issuing an assault on WHATEVER we stated, be it good or bad. It is just the nature of this beast and like it or not, he IS a player in this case.
In the words of a great moderator, let's just agree to disagree...and be nice while we do it. I mean, we ARE after all Websleuths, and what we are ABOUT is solving the case, not all this bickering that we seem to not be able to get beyond for any length of time. It is not helping Caylee for us to hate or to love Leonard Padilla...so let's figure out a way to disagree and keep on looking for ways to bring JUSTICE FOR CAYLEE!
As for me, I admire and like Mr. Padilla from what I can tell from afar. I think he is more determined than ANYONE to see Caylee vindicated and I applaud him for his efforts, no matter WHAT his motivation IS...Kudos Leonard-thanks for the laughs and the thought provoking tidbits and the even outlandish lies!(I mean "theories"...but when YOU have a wrong thought/idea it is a lie and when anyone else does, it was a wrong "theory") I wish you had been MY grandpa as I am sure that you and I would have been great friends because I sometimes like to "swat the hive" myself...sometimes there is nothing else TO do.:waitasec: