Luka Rocco Magnotta: charged with first degree murder; worldwide red alert:INTERPOL 3

[KrazyKatLadi]

Actually, no. He wears a dark hoodie with the hood up, and never shows his face. But that means nothing next to all the other evidence authenticating it, IMO.

Oh I have no doubt its him, I just thought it odd someone claiming he was framed by an imaginary agent when there's video.

I just hope he's caught soon. It makes me uneasy knowing he's out there somewhere. :screwy:

 

[Gypsy Road]

I suspect that is how investigators were able to quickly determine that he had flown to Paris ... he probably booked a round trip flight under the Luka Magnotta passport. I really think that he expected the suitcase to be taken away by the garbage collectors and that he could return after a week in Paris and carry on as before. Without the suitcase, this could have been a big mystery of body parts in the mail and no connection to a victim, a crime scene, or Eric Newman.

He could not have entered France on a Canadian flight without a passport.

I think you are right. I don't think he banked on the suitcase being found. Until he finds a way to get a fake passport I guess his murdering arse is stuck in France. I don't think you can travel from country to country in Europe without a passport these days can you? That was my experience a few years ago anyway.

If your theory is right, I wonder where he was going to return to in Canada? Did he leave any personal belongings in that apartment he was living in I wonder?

 

[BorgQueen]

So based on what we know of his schooling, he can speak Canadian-inflected English and perhaps Canadian-inflected French. But not Spanish, or any of the Russian dialects. This is helpful info.

Bouncing off this post.

About Canadian French. It is indeed taught in Canadian public schools. It is mandatory, but extremely basic, unless a parent puts a child in French Immersion (which I intend to do with my daughter, if possible).
I dropped out of school in grade 9 (bullies... yay. Although, I have my GED, which is a diploma that shows that one could have graduated had they went through... but anyway, French isn't part of that). I can not speak fluent French, nor can I pronounce what I know properly. Sometimes, I can kind of understand it a little bit (not much). I can read enough French that I can understand what something is about, even if I don't know every word. I can get the general idea. I grew up in southern Ontario, about a 45minute-1hour drive from Toronto and Scarborough. In grade 9, I went to a trade school, and French was not part of the curriculum.

Based on my personal experience, Eric Newman would NOT know enough French to pass in France. And from what I have read about the differences between Canadian French and European French, while they can understand each other, A Francophone in France would be able to tell if a person is speaking Canadian French. It comes off as 'uneducated'. He would stand out in France like a sore thumb, even if he was fluent, which is unlikely.



Just my opinion. :twocents: :moo:

 

[otto]

I think you are right. I don't think he banked on the suitcase being found. Until he finds a way to get a fake passport I guess his murdering arse is stuck in France. I don't think you can travel from country to country in Europe without a passport these days can you? That was my experience a few years ago anyway.

If your theory is right, I wonder where he was going to return to in Canada? Did he leave any personal belongings in that apartment he was living in I wonder?

After the EEC (European Economic Community) became the EU (European Union), the borders between Western European countries were more or less opened up ... not much need for a passport when traveling between Western European countries.

I have to wonder what he had for personal belongings ... other than a computer, camera and clothes ... I doubt he owned much of anything. It was a furnished apartment.

 

[HastingsChi]

As someone else mentioned, he may have caught a flight to France that had a layover in Toronto, and he could have remained in Toronto. What I find interesting in all of this is that the one person who might be able to establish his whereabouts is the taxi driver who took him away from an airport or a car rental worker. I would be talking to every taxi driver in Toronto and Paris.

HeinekenMan you raise some wonderful points; thank you!

I would like to understand how the Canadian air security and flight manifests differs from what is required of flights originating in the United States; for example:

1. Does law enforcement always have access to the manifests/passenger lists of all flights originating in Canada the same way US federal authorities can search any US originating flight 24/7?

2. Will flights originating in Canada take off if a passenger has "checked-in" themselves and baggage but not boarded the flight? (In the US your baggage is pulled if you're not in your seat on that flight)

3. Is it true that Canadian citizens do NOT need to use a passport/go through customs when traveling to the United Kingdom or France? (If true: (a) Are Canadian identification documents easily forged/manipulated? (b) How strict is Canadian airport security in making sure the ID and the individual are one in the same?)

 

[PAXIMUS]

Paximus, I think that the appearance of "Little Luka" as well as Magnotta's hands would allow him to be identified beyond a reasonable doubt.

Possible, there is also a gold ring that can be seen in the video and other pics of him. It would all depend on how skillful the lawyers trying the case are, the state will have the very nice advantage of a prejudiced, inflamed and impassioned jury once they show them the video so it may not matter anyway. And although it is quite out of character for me since I am in the defense profession, it probably shouldnt matter much in this case. That is a rare thing for me to say!

 

[Gypsy Road]

If the ticket he had was from Paris to Montreal, I suspect that it was a roundtrip ticket from Montreal - Paris and Paris - Montreal. I doubt that the hitch-hiking story is true ... unless ... he never got on the plane in the first place.

But authorities would know whether or not he got on that plane wouldn't they? His arrival into France would be documented through customs, no?

 

[otto]

HeinekenMan you raise some wonderful points; thank you!

I would like to understand how the Canadian air security and flight manifests differs from what is required of flights originating in the United States; for example:

1. Does law enforcement always have access to the manifests/passenger lists of all flights originating in Canada the same way US federal authorities can search any US originating flight 24/7?

2. Will flights originating in Canada take off if a passenger has "checked-in" themselves and baggage but not boarded the flight? (In the US your baggage is pulled if you're not in your seat on that flight)

3. Is it true that Canadian citizens do NOT need to use a passport/go through customs when traveling to the United Kingdom or France? (If true: (a) Are Canadian identification documents easily forged/manipulated? (b) How strict is Canadian airport security in making sure the ID and the individual are one in the same?)

Montreal is between Toronto and Paris, so why would he have a flight to Toronto? It seems to me that a flight may go from Toronto to Montreal to Paris, but not from Montreal to Toronto to Paris. That would be like going backwards first.

Passengers have to board if they're checked in ... I doubt a flight would leave with luggage but no passengers, especially after the Air India explosion.

Canadians need a passport to leave the country by air ... and they need a passport to enter England and France.

 

[HastingsChi]

The purported agent is not a POI in this case so please let's leave him or her out of it until such time as s/he is named by MSM.

I agree that the former agent (if one exists) is NOT a POI in this case, however this agent, real or fake, has been the focus of Magnotta's rage for years and I would suggest that his or her name would allow us to obtain more critical info related to Magnotta which could be crucial in helping the authorities capture the monster that is Magnotta.

If you disagree ynotdivein, I absolutely stand by your decision and not mention this again. I definitely respect your judgement and thank you for your dedication to creating a inclusive, open environment for us here on WS.

Thanks, in advance, for your thoughtful feedback.

 

[otto]

But authorities would know whether or not he got on that plane wouldn't they? His arrival into France would be documented through customs, no?

I think he would have been registered as entering France ... which is probably why Canadian authorities have said that he flew to Paris

"By the time body parts of the man he is alleged to have killed were discovered in the mail in Ottawa and behind his Montreal apartment, Luka Rocco Magnotta was already on the other side of the Atlantic, police say.

The former model and escort at the centre of an international manhunt for a killing and dismemberment fled Canada for Paris on May 25, the day the killing took place."

http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/05/31/luka-rocco-magnotta-paris/

 

[snoofer]

My gut feeling is that he has multiple personality disorder and schizophrenia. Jason is one of his personalities, I can tell with his voice in this below: Luka Rocco Magnotta audition for Cover Guy - YouTube that it sounds like he can change it around. This is my theater acting career kicking in by the way...he says he practiced the "deep voice"

what is with the kissy kissy pucker faces he keeps making? :what:

 

[HastingsChi]

Montreal is between Toronto and Paris, so why would he have a flight to Toronto? It seems to me that a flight may go from Toronto to Montreal to Paris, but not from Montreal to Toronto to Paris. That would be like going backwards first.

Passengers have to board if they're checked in ... I doubt a flight would leave with luggage but no passengers, especially after the Air India explosion.

Canadians need a passport to leave the country by air ... and they need a passport to enter England and France.

Are Canadian passports digitized; meaning hypothetically if I were Canadian and went to Germany this morning would Canadian government officials be able to type my name into the passport agency's computer and based on the hypothetical scan of my passport entering Germany this morning know immediately where my Canadian passport was last used?

 

[prima.facie]

Paximus, I think that the appearance of "Little Luka" as well as Magnotta's hands would allow him to be identified beyond a reasonable doubt.

"little luka" :floorlaugh::floorlaugh::floorlaugh:

...tis true though

 

[Cubby]

If the ticket he had was from Paris to Montreal, I suspect that it was a roundtrip ticket from Montreal - Paris and Paris - Montreal. I doubt that the hitch-hiking story is true ... unless ... he never got on the plane in the first place.

OK, here a subject I was hoping was touched upon while catching up.

I'm over tired with lot's of questions so please bare with me here...

I haven't seen this discussed. What layovers would exist and in what cities on flights between Montreal and Paris?

I'm hung up on this flight to Paris and alleged "confirmed"? sighting is a red herring.

I'm stuck on the comment he wanted a child to mummify. If it's typically rainy and humid in Paris, and if he were to seek another victim, it would have to be in an arid region.

We had a little bit of a discussion on the mummification of human remains in Bob Harrod's thread. In that discussion/research, we uncovered some MSM regarding a former playboy model (an elderly woman) who was missing and found in her CA apartment mummified.

The little we were able to uncover, the time for the mummification process to occur was at min 4 mo's and iirc 9-12 mo's.

Is it possible he went to an arid region? If he researched the human mummification process, I fear he may already be seeking the next victim to the length of time the mummification process takes.

Should be looking for possible arid regions which correlate with lay overs between Montreal and Paris? I can't help but think he exited the plane at a layover and booked another flight under another name to an arid region.

Night all. I am waaaay to tired to continue reading or posting.

Hoping to wake up to news he has been captured. lease:

 

[Batman911]

I can't understand why this video is not much discussed here.

[video=youtube;fUilIx_rl9E]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUilIx_rl9E[/video]

A nobody has been able de speak with Luka Magnotta. And the police cannot find him? WTF?

If you go to 5:00 till 6:16, it's clearly him. Without any doubt, it's Luka Magnotta on the phone.

So, now we know he still have a cellphone with him. One that he probably got from a long time. And he responds to it. He's still in contact with the people he knows.

 

[otto]

what is with the kissy kissy pucker faces he keeps making? :what:

I think that's what aspiring models do to make their cheekbones appear more prominent ... make them more photogenic. It looks pretty weird ... but it seems to be a popular expression these days.

 

[otto]

Are Canadian passports digitized; meaning hypothetically if I were Canadian and went to Germany this morning would Canadian government officials be able to type my name into the passport agency's computer and based on the hypothetical scan of my passport entering Germany this morning know immediately where my Canadian passport was last used?

Canadian passports have a barcode, so I suspect that the answer is yes.

 

[Saribella]

I think that's what aspiring models do to make their cheekbones appear more prominent ... make them more photogenic. It looks pretty weird ... but it seems to be a popular expression these days.

The Zoolander, as I call it :floorlaugh: :skip:

 

[HastingsChi]

Good god he isnt that small LOL. Not large but about average isnt it, not that I have seen many to compare to.


Think they will make him whip it out in court for comparison? I would.

Some of his escort reviews mentioned that "Little Luka" (my term, not theirs) didn't go to the lengths that they had been led to believe...

 

[otto]

OK, here a subject I was hoping was touched upon while catching up.

I'm over tired with lot's of questions so please bare with me here...

I haven't seen this discussed. What layovers would exist and in what cities on flights between Montreal and Paris?

I'm hung up on this flight to Paris and alleged "confirmed"? sighting is a red herring.

I'm stuck on the comment he wanted a child to mummify. If it's typically rainy and humid in Paris, and if he were to seek another victim, it would have to be in an arid region.

We had a little bit of a discussion on the mummification of human remains in Bob Harrod's thread. In that discussion/research, we uncovered some MSM regarding a former playboy model (an elderly woman) who was missing and found in her CA apartment mummified.

The little we were able to uncover, the time for the mummification process to occur was at min 4 mo's and iirc 9-12 mo's.

Is it possible he went to an arid region? If he researched the human mummification process, I fear he may already be seeking the next victim to the length of time the mummification process takes.

Should be looking for possible arid regions which correlate with lay overs between Montreal and Paris? I can't help but think he exited the plane at a layover and booked another flight under another name to an arid region.

Night all. I am waaaay to tired to continue reading or posting.

Hoping to wake up to news he has been captured. lease:

He could book a non-stop flight ... and there would not be any layovers. The only possible stops would be London or Amsterdam, but if he got off the plane in either of those locations, he would have gone through customs. It seems that Canadian authorities believe he flew to Paris.