What a waste of taxpayer dollars, they're never going to get a conviction
"It's better to know the judge than to know the law'. And if Judge Cannone is going to contact the new judge about Yanetti's 'scheduling dates', that concerns me.
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What a waste of taxpayer dollars, they're never going to get a conviction
Simples.
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What was the jury foreman's role here?
Also, how did they get past the medical expert testimony that showed his body bore no evidence of a vehicle impact?
This is getting too weird.
For that to work the instigator of the invitation is also guilty.With how the various Count #2 charges were given with jury instructions, they didn't necessarily have to believe that. KR could be found guilty of Involuntary Manslaughter if the jury thought she created a causal chain resulting in his death, like some jurors could blame her for him getting hypothermia...I think the jury instructions were problematic with Count #2, but they were instructed that she could be found guilty due to creating a causal chain.
For that to work the instigator of the invitation is also guilty.
KR drove him there.
But they had been invited.
Causal link is ergo the host or hosts.
The division in this town has been going on for many, many years, according to a few of my coworkers who grew up in Canton.True but important to remember that the KR case is not the first and it is just one.
The people have been most unhappy for a very long time with their police dept.
It’s happened across the country - deliberately stoked & incited for YEARS.When was the last time we've ( everyone not just people here on this forum) seen a town ripped so completely apart like this? It's coming from ALL sides. It's not just outside the town pressure, it's coming from the inside too. There's vandalism, intimidation, terrorism, drama, violence, corruption, fear, protests, counter-protests, contentious town hall meetings, more drama, FBI involvement, incitements, Internal Affairs investigations, even more drama, DEA involvement, NETFLIX series, 48hrs Episodes, Dateline Episodes, Court TV Episodes etc, etc, etc!
It's only going to get worse...WAY worse if this goes forward again. It's a modern day Hatfields & McCoys. Another trial and maybe the National Guard is going to have to come in for support. And boy once those boys and girls come to down things really tend to get weird! Roadblocks, armed soldiers in groups roaming the streets, permissions and denials, movements become "monitrored", There's guys on the roofs with binoculars and night-vison scopes, It's not fun believe me! We've had the Guard come in for some help with Hurrican relief and it's not an enjoyable slice of American Pie if you catch my meaning! The CW needs to reconsider.
That's the impression I am getting too.The division in this town has been going on for many, many years, according to a few of my coworkers who grew up in Canton.
actually a mistrial as declared.Hooray for Justice !!!
As long as it takes, as much as it takes.
Prosecutor's closing arguments lay it all out clearly. They have the evidence and facts.
The wheels of justice grind slowly, but they do!
jmo moo
causal chain ?With how the various Count #2 charges were given with jury instructions, they didn't necessarily have to believe that. KR could be found guilty of Involuntary Manslaughter if the jury thought she created a causal chain resulting in his death, like some jurors could blame her for him getting hypothermia...I think the jury instructions were problematic with Count #2, but they were instructed that she could be found guilty due to creating a causal chain.
EXAMPLE - He would not have froze to death but for Karen Read hitting him and knocking him unconsciouscausal chain ?
I think I need more law codes and examples on the Causal chains.
Like if random girlfriend asked any - him to drive to 7-11 and he did not want to go ,but she kept asking ,and his car goes into the river in route to grab the whatever girlie selfishly wanted . Is this the charge they get ?
Honestly asking .
If you do have a link explaining the legal concept of Causal chain as defined in this case ,I would really appreciate it .
Causal chain.. ,I kinda hope you joking
Do you have a link for this assertion?Friends, none of which attended his funeral.
Not MA law per se but here’s a couple I found:causal chain ?
I think I need more law codes and examples on the Causal chains.
Like if random girlfriend asked any - him to drive to 7-11 and he did not want to go ,but she kept asking ,and his car goes into the river in route to grab the whatever girlie selfishly wanted . Is this the charge they get ?
Honestly asking .
If you do have a link explaining the legal concept of Causal chain as defined in this case ,I would really appreciate it .
Causal chain.. ,I kinda hope you joking
My understanding is that this was defense counsel's spin. In response, both Morrissey and the FBI denied that he or any member of his office was a subject of the FBI investigation.My understanding is that DA Morrissey's conduct is being investigated as part of the FBI investigation. The Defense can bring their appeal to an appealant court which will be judged by three judges. MOO
your understanding is incorrectMy understanding is that this was defense counsel's spin. In response, both Morrissey and the FBI denied that he or any member of his office was a subject of the FBI investigation.
My understanding is that this was defense counsel's spin. In response, both Morrissey and the FBI denied that he or any member of his office was a subject of the FBI investigation.
yeppers and here's the lettersThe DA has no such knowledge. He was rebuffed multiple times by the Feds when he (pretty desperately, IMO) tried to find out who they were investigating.
No one knows what the FBI is working on so it's false to say they've excluded anyone and they certainly haven't communicated anything. What we do know is that they aren't directly investigating the O'Keefe murder (no jurisdiction, as Morrissey bellowed) although whatever they are working on clearly has some direct relationship to the investigation of the O'Keefe murder. They don't just willy nilly spend tens of thousands of dollars on experts unless they are onto something.
Dollars to Dunks, it's the state police. Whether Morrissey is in the mix as well, we don't know.
causal chain ?
I think I need more law codes and examples on the Causal chains.
Like if random girlfriend asked any - him to drive to 7-11 and he did not want to go ,but she kept asking ,and his car goes into the river in route to grab the whatever girlie selfishly wanted . Is this the charge they get ?
Honestly asking .
If you do have a link explaining the legal concept of Causal chain as defined in this case ,I would really appreciate it .
Causal chain.. ,I kinda hope you joking
25 Investigates has confirmed with Massachusetts State Police that 3 troopers working with the Norfolk County District Attorney’s office are under internal investigation. All three communicated by text with Trooper Michael Proctor, who sent disparaging messages about Karen Read on his personal cell phone to friends and State Police colleagues. Read was charged in the death of her boyfriend, Boston Police officer John O’Keefe. The first trial ended in a hung jury earlier this month. A new trial date has been scheduled for January 2025.
In an email sent exclusively to investigative reporter Ted Daniel, an MSP spokesperson wrote:
“The Massachusetts State Police confirms that Detective Lieutenant Brian Tully, Lieutenant John Fanning and Sergeant Yuri Bukhenik are each the subject of an active internal affairs investigation. The department respectfully declines further comment in fairness to the integrity of the process and pending investigative outcomes. The Troopers remain on full duty at this time.”
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25 Investigates: 2 state police troopers connected to Karen Read case now under investigation
25 Investigates has confirmed with Massachusetts State Police that 2 troopers working with the Norfolk County District Attorney’s office are under internal investigation, a third was investigated and the allegations have been classified as “unfounded.”www.boston25news.com