Mass Casualties -Train Crashes Into NJ Transit's Hoboken Station

[JerseyGirl]

Jersey City Medical Center is treating 51 patients with three in critical condition and 11 in serious condition. At least one patient is in the operating room. Patients have a mix of internal, facial and orthopedic injuries.
Jersey City Medical Center has a hotline for relatives to call to see if they have family there. The hotline is 201-915-2691.

22 patients went to Hoboken University Medical Center.

One was treated at Christ Hospital in Jersey City

Hackensack Hospital said 12 people with minor injuries were treated there. Six were released and six are going to be released soon.

http://www.nj.com/hudson/index.ssf/2016/09/3_killed_more_than_100_hurt_in_hoboken_train_crash.html

 

[FindHG]

[video=youtube;qa61Q8j6Cxk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qa61Q8j6Cxk[/video]

Complete PC

 

[skibaboo]

Respectfully, media , again , have no clue what they are reporting.

They are mixing up the conductor and the engineer.

The conductor is the flight attendant. The engineer is the pilot. The enginner is in the back, where the cockpit is. It was in push configuration.
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The conductor is in the front , which has nothing to do with the cockpit in the rear

When in push configuration , the front of the train , is basically just another passenger coach. Identical coach as all the ones in the middle , no power no controls etc the cabin of the airplane !

Maybe he wasn't supposed to be in the front but was? Maybe he went there because something was wrong? Just thinking out loud

 

[FindHG]

[video=youtube;00uD_I6YRf4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00uD_I6YRf4[/video]


This is from before the Govs' PC, where we learned the exact number of cars, four, engine in back, and the same scope of damage.

 

[skibaboo]

Ok this is just super weird, has anyone seen this?

Hazard materials warning for the United States. It was issued twice and says "Would you? Could you, on a train?" FEMA was hacked last night

WKTV NEWSChannel 2 FEMA replied that they did not send this out. They will launch a full investigation into how their codes were hacked. WKTV seems to be the only target of this hack. For now, we have disabled the codes in our decoder that trigger this alert. If there is a real National Alert, we will still receive it from the local radio stations we are assigned to monitor. WKTV will cooperate fully with FEMA, providing information about our hardware, software and internet access, and will provide log files from our devices. This information will be helpful to FEMA to track down the source of this hack.

Here is a video of the alert

[video=youtube;dui0RN8iWGs]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dui0RN8iWGs"]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dui0RN8iWGs[/video]

 

[FindHG]

Jersey City Medical Center is treating 51 patients with three in critical condition and 11 in serious condition. At least one patient is in the operating room. Patients have a mix of internal, facial and orthopedic injuries.
Jersey City Medical Center has a hotline for relatives to call to see if they have family there. The hotline is 201-915-2691.

22 patients went to Hoboken University Medical Center.

One was treated at Christ Hospital in Jersey City

Hackensack Hospital said 12 people with minor injuries were treated there. Six were released and six are going to be released soon.

http://www.nj.com/hudson/index.ssf/2016/09/3_killed_more_than_100_hurt_in_hoboken_train_crash.html

Thank you for this update about the injured, JerseyGirl. Good to know.

 

[zippitydoda]

I take the Northeast corridor train most every day into Newark Penn Station. This morning, around 7:00am, one of my co-workers texted me advising that there was a fatality on one of the Newark Penn station tracks and to expect delays. I got into work just fine with no delays, and then heard about the Hoboken crash, which happened around 8:30am. Its been a really bad day for NJ / NY transit - I am sorry for all those who were hurt and the family who lost a loved one.

 

[FindHG]

Ok this is just super weird, has anyone seen this?

Hazard materials warning for the United States. It was issued twice and says "Would you? Could you, on a train?" FEMA was hacked last night

WKTV NEWSChannel 2 FEMA replied that they did not send this out. They will launch a full investigation into how their codes were hacked. WKTV seems to be the only target of this hack. For now, we have disabled the codes in our decoder that trigger this alert. If there is a real National Alert, we will still receive it from the local radio stations we are assigned to monitor. WKTV will cooperate fully with FEMA, providing information about our hardware, software and internet access, and will provide log files from our devices. This information will be helpful to FEMA to track down the source of this hack.

Here is a video of the alert

[video=youtube;dui0RN8iWGs]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dui0RN8iWGs"]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dui0RN8iWGs[/video]

Seriously? Nothing is coming up in searches, yet.

 

[snowflakes07]

Terrifying! I can't even imagine.

 

[Lauranyc83]

FROM: Notify NYC

Following a prior suspension, PATH train service has resumed in and out of Hoboken Station, New Jersey. Expect residual delays.

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[zippitydoda]

There are different trains that run on different tracks at the Hoboken station - PATH is one (trains from Newark Penn into NYC) and NJ Transit/Light Rail (all over NJ and into NYC) is another. The crash happened on one of NJ Transit tracks. Here is NJ Transit's latest update on available services;

http://www.njtransit.com/sa/sa_servlet.srv?hdnPageAction=CustomerNoticeTo&NoticeId=2468

 

[i.b.nora]

WKTV NEWSChannel 2
22 hrs ·
IMPORTANT NOTE - If you were watching our newscast around 6:17 p.m. you may have seen a "Hazardous Materials Warning" crawl across your screen. There is NO such warning. The message was an automated test which was not intended for public display. Again, there is NO warning. Our apologies for the confusion this may have caused.

 

[FindHG]

WKTV NEWSChannel 2
22 hrs ·
IMPORTANT NOTE - If you were watching our newscast around 6:17 p.m. you may have seen a "Hazardous Materials Warning" crawl across your screen. There is NO such warning. The message was an automated test which was not intended for public display. Again, there is NO warning. Our apologies for the confusion this may have caused.

Ah. Interesting. Thank skibz and i.b.nora, for cluing me in.

 

[FindHG]

http://www.cbsnews.com/live/ national

http://newjersey.news12.com/news/news-12-new-jersey-live-stream-1.3925819 local

5:30 pm PC from NTSB from the scene, starting


http://newyork.cbslocal.com/show/cbs-new-york-live-video-one/ local

In a nutshell, scene too hazardous to access...

http://abc7ny.com/live/ local

Investigators arrived at 3 pm...

will post video

Fatality Identified from CBSN

:rose:​

 

[Masterj]

I dont think that could be right --engineer is the person , in the back controlling train

maybe conductor - but is not the "driver"

I don't think this is right. On our metro north trains the engineer sits in the front.


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[epiphany]

News Conference

Bella Dinh-Zarr, NTSB Vice Chair:

Locomotive was at back of train

Push-pull train

Engineer was operating train from the cab car

also known as control car

 

[Blondie in Spokane]

A 34-year-old Hoboken mother is NJ Transit crash’s sole fatality, her heartbroken mother confirmed to The Post Thursday.

Fabiola Bittar de Kroon had just dropped her 1-year-old daughter off at daycare Thursday morning and was likely heading out to hunt for a new apartment when the speeding New Jersey Transit train barreled towards the station where she was standing.

The impact of the crash caused debris to fly onto the tracks, with at least one piece fatally striking the Brazilian lawyer.

Her mother, Sueli, who still lives in Brazil, said she received a call from de Kroon’s distressed husband around 4:30 p.m. with the tragic news.

“We are very, very sad,” she said.

De Kroon had only moved to New Jersey a year ago — leaving her hometown of Santos, Brazil to follow her husband, whose company relocated him to New York.

She quit her job and left behind her family to make a new life for their young daughter, Julia.

They had recently decided to start looking for apartments to be closer to Manhattan and find a better school district for Julia.

Sueli suspects that de Kroon was likely heading out to scout apartments Thursday morning after dropping off Julia at a local daycare.

De Kroon’s husband, Daan, was out of town on a business trip at the time of the crash, but was heading back to the city.


http://nypost.com/2016/09/29/cops-identify-woman-killed-in-hoboken-train-crash/

 

[FindHG]

A 34-year-old Hoboken mother is NJ Transit crash’s sole fatality, her heartbroken mother confirmed to The Post Thursday.

Fabiola Bittar de Kroon had just dropped her 1-year-old daughter off at daycare Thursday morning and was likely heading out to hunt for a new apartment when the speeding New Jersey Transit train barreled towards the station where she was standing.

The impact of the crash caused debris to fly onto the tracks, with at least one piece fatally striking the Brazilian lawyer.

Her mother, Sueli, who still lives in Brazil, said she received a call from de Kroon’s distressed husband around 4:30 p.m. with the tragic news.

“We are very, very sad,” she said.

De Kroon had only moved to New Jersey a year ago — leaving her hometown of Santos, Brazil to follow her husband, whose company relocated him to New York.

She quit her job and left behind her family to make a new life for their young daughter, Julia.

They had recently decided to start looking for apartments to be closer to Manhattan and find a better school district for Julia.

Sueli suspects that de Kroon was likely heading out to scout apartments Thursday morning after dropping off Julia at a local daycare.

De Kroon’s husband, Daan, was out of town on a business trip at the time of the crash, but was heading back to the city.


http://nypost.com/2016/09/29/cops-identify-woman-killed-in-hoboken-train-crash/

rsbm

Thank you, Blondie in Spokane, for this information about this beautiful Brazilian lawyer, mom, wife, daughter, and newcomer to this area, Fabiola Bittar de Kroon, who leaves a very young daughter, Julia, behind.

Seems heart breaking. No words for this, just deep regret this happened to her. Her family and friends are in my thoughts and prayers.

 

[FindHG]

NJ TRANSIT TRAIN APPROACHED STATION IN HOBOKEN AT 3 TIMES TYPICAL RATE OF SPEED, SOURCES SAY
By Jim Hoffer, ABC 7 NY
updated 10 mins ago

"The New Jersey Transit train that crashed Thursday approached the station at three times the typical 10 mph approach speed, sources tell Eyewitness News.
[...]
The damage, according to one investigator, suggests the brakes failed or the engineer never applied them.
[...]
"You've investigated a lot of accidents, what does your gut tell you?," we asked former train accident investigator James Sottile.

"The engineer was possibly incapacitated and could not control the train until it hit bumper block," said Sottile."
[...]

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Posted upthread via CBSN the image is credited to BY PANCHO BERNASCONI/GETTY IMAGES

"Train personel survey the NJ Transit train that crashed in to the platform at the Hoboken Terminal September 29, 2016 in Hoboken, New Jersey."
included below

Investigators work to collect data on train's speed after deadly Hoboken crash
BY CHRISTOPHER MAAG AND JAMES M O’NEILL
STAFF WRITERS | THE RECORD updating new info since this morning
THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 29, 2016, 7:46 PM



Hoboken crash timeline: What happened when
USA TODAY NETWORK The (Westchester County, N.Y.) Journal News
7:21 p.m. EDT September 29, 2016


Off-duty train engineer ran toward Hoboken crash
Christopher Maag and James M. O'Neill, The (Westchester County, N.Y.) Journal News USA TODAY NETWORK
8:17 p.m. EDT September 29, 2016


PBS Newshour, reported that the conductor left the hospital for home, this evening, and cooperating (will post link shortly)


1 Dead in Crash of NJ Transit Train That Was Traveling at High Speed
By MORGAN WINSOR JEFFREY COOK JOSH MARGOLIN MARK CRUDELEJULIA JACOBO
ABCNEWS
Sep 29, 2016, 6:16 PM ET



[video=youtube;debSxgzCx6w]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=debSxgzCx6w[/video]

 

[JerseyGirl]

:rose: RIP Fabiola :rose:

http://www.nj.com/hudson/index.ssf/...in_crash.html#incart_most-read_hudson_article