ME ME - Ayla Reynolds, 20 mnths, Waterville, 17 December 2011 - # 7

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Why on earth would he have to fake an accident to account for her broken arm? Even if it was broken in some other type accident before then, it's still the same result, and he would have to explain it, one way or another.
If he had broken her arm intentionally it would have to be by slamming her against something hard or hitting her arm with a hard object. If he yanked on her arm, it would more likely be a dislocated shoulder or elbow... not broken.
I take it you are saying he had to make it look like an accident because his mother was there. But yet they didn't take her to the doctor until the next day, so that kind of cancels out making the story up, don't you think?
Or maybe I'm just confused. :crazy:

Again, this is just a theory... I was NOT saying that he had "to make it look like an accident bc his mother was there". What I meant to convey was that, I think it is possible that Ayla's arm was injured before the "fall", by her father, perhaps in anger. We don't know the specifics of Ayla's injury, bc to my knowledge, her medical records have not been released. What we do know is that the injury was severe enough to require additional appointments with a bone specialist. Also, iirc, the doctors at the hospital initially were suspicious of the injury, but later came to believe that it was an accident. We don't know what swayed them. Perhaps it was PD's account of the "accident".

To be clear, what I meant was this: JD broke Ayla's arm in an act of child abuse, prior to returning to the home from grocery shopping. Perhaps in the car? He realized by Ayla's reaction that something was wrong with the arm and that there would be questions from his family. He decided that the best way to take suspicion off of him would be to have an "accident" in front of witnesses that could account for the injury to Ayla's arm. He chose to "fall up" the stairs, knowing his mother was home and would hear the resulting crash. Because it is difficult to purposefully fall, without actually injuring yourself, the crash wasn't sufficient to cause that type of injury to a toddler's arm. Thus, PD being reluctant to take her to the ER.

As to the bbb, I don't think those are the only type of injuries that result from abuse. First, a common injury presented after abuse in children is a spiral fracture, caused by twisting of the arm, behind the child. And broken bones in children under five is a common injury when the abuser is the biological father. Basically, a bone will break when there’s more force applied to the bone than it can absorb. A grown man could break a toddler's arm easily, without having to slam her into something...
 
Bouncing off the ayla arm injury posts. PD says she heard a thump and went inafter the fall. So whatever the thump was is whatever JD explained it was. The injury could have happened at that time but PD is only able to parot what she was told happened before she entered the room, kwim.

This couuld also explain comment atributed to PD abot ayla seeming "scared" when she came into the room just after the "fall".
 
Sometimes I wonder if it's best to stick with the "no comment". Better still, do NOT appear on Nancy Grace giving off the impression that you're there to defend the PD instead of looking for a missing child?

My opinion only.


BBM: :seeya: Respectfully, I disagree ...

IMO, Mr. McCausland has done a :great: job handling this case, and I believe Mr. McCausland and LE's FIRST PRIORITY is finding Ayla -- NOT "defending" the LE's image.

LE has been searching for Ayla since December 17 -- in the cold, snow, rain, and below freezing temps in Maine ... I believe they are determined to find Ayla and SOLVE this case.


Now ... while I understand that Nancy Grace can be :innocent: "difficult" -- she was "pushing it" to get more INFO from McCausland ... BUT -- I totally understand that Mr. McCausland does NOT want to compromise this investigation and was very limited in his responses.

I give Nancy "credit" for covering the story -- :waitasec: it sure beats that :genie: ...


One other thing : Remember that "sarcastic" remark from Justin a while back when he "challenged" Nancy Grace to come to Maine to see what he [Justin] has to go through every day ? :boohoo:

And THAT is why I was delighted to see Mr. McCausland on NG's show !

lol ... :great:

MOO ...
 
why do you think that she hasn't been seen since 12/8?

Just listening to NG and JVM-they are saying that nobody other then Justin's family circle have reported seeing Ayla since Dec 8th when he canceled the drs apt, for Ayla about her broken arm....thats why i think that
 
http://www.pressherald.com/news/titillation-is-not-helping-in-ayla-case_2012-02-01.html

Bill Nemitz: Titillation is not helping in Ayla case
The media report many newsworthy developments in the case of the missing toddler – but then there's the mindless chatter.

The author claims that both parents have made nonstop appearances in morning shows which I don't think is true but this was a good point:

Remember David Hobson? He's the guy who escaped from a jail in New Hampshire back in December and kept all of southern Maine on pins and needles until he was caught five days later.

As McCausland correctly recalls, federal marshals made headlines during that search when they announced a $1,000 reward for information leading to Hobson's capture.

"They got a phone call within hours," said McCausland.

The reward for information about Ayla's fate, in case we've all forgotten, is $30,000 – raised by Waterville attorney John Nale and others in the community.

And strangely, of the 700-plus calls about Ayla that police have fielded so far, not one has qualified as reward-worthy.

Maybe that's because very few people out there know what happened to Ayla – and they're not talking.

Or maybe it's because the media have been talking too much about the blood – and not enough about the money.
 
Which date was the canceled appointment? I've seen 16th and I've seen 12th and now 8th... ??
 
Some of us only started following this case in the recent days. I was here on and off and have many other cases I follow so I'm not always privy to what's been discussed.

Yes, it must be frustrating for those who have been here from the start but those of us who have just recently started to follow the case appreciate the links to articles.

If Ayla had her own forum, there would be a links page only. It is what it is for now.

Thanks to those who provide links backing up their posts. Very much appreciated!



i havent had a chance to follow closely....but the new blood evidence ....i was wondering ....whats the chances .....she was mulled by a dog in the home ....as they said there were other blood than the babies ....not sure if this is logical
 
I've seen the 16th and the 15th given as the date of that appointment. Do we know if the date was ver publshed? Off to try and find out.
 
I thought the missed doctor's appointment in question was Dec. 16. Now, I've seen refernces to Ayla missing several doctor's appointments for her arm. Here is an article stating she missed an appointment Dec. 12:

http://www.thebostonchannel.com/r/30334378/detail.html


DiPietro has denied any involvement in his daughter’s disappearance. He did admit to accidentally breaking his daughter’s arm weeks before he reported her missing.

He canceled a follow-up appointment with his daughter’s doctor on Dec. 12, Trista Reynolds' sister, Jessica, told Newscenter 5.
BBM
Read more: http://www.thebostonchannel.com/news/30334378/detail.html#ixzz1l9R9Rbb5
 
All we need is anyone to come forward and confirm that they in fact saw Ayla before the 16th (anyone OUTSIDE of the family). I'm feeling very strongly that Alya was missing before that and the cosy Friday at home was an alibi. JMO
 
I honestly feel sorry for her. She's probably got all these people - Mom, Big Brother, Friends - telling her what to do and she may not have the maturity at that age to break away and look out for herself. (See my post above)

I totally agree. The people that matter to her most (and appear to be responsible for food on the table and a roof over her head) are probably in the driver's seat. At her age it would be mighty hard to go against their wishes (if she knows anything at all about Ayla's disappearance).
 
The reason no one has come up with any good leads from the reward money is because the ones involved are the only ones with answers---- jus' my 2cents. For what its worth..
 
I thought the missed doctor's appointment in question was Dec. 16. Now, I've seen refernces to Ayla missing several doctor's appointments for her arm. Here is an article stating she missed an appointment Dec. 12:

http://www.thebostonchannel.com/r/30334378/detail.html



BBM
Read more: http://www.thebostonchannel.com/news/30334378/detail.html#ixzz1l9R9Rbb5

In askfornina's timeline linked upthread in trista's timeline she has posted there it discusses trista filing court papers on the 15th after JD is uncommunicative, uncooperative and several doctor appointments are missed.

December 15th 2011, 12 pm - Due to her growing concerns of infrequent visitations, lack of communication from Justin, missing doctor visits and Ayla's injuries while under Justin's care (documented with doctors and DHHS) Trista petitioned the Cumberland County Courthouse for parental rights and responsibilities. December 17, 2011 8:51 am - Ayla Bell Reynolds is reported missing from 29 Violette Avenue Waterville,
 
Except that Ayla's mom did not trust Ayla's dad to care for her. Trista left Ayla in the care of her own family when she went into rehab. It was DCF who removed the child and placed her in the care of her father, allegedly through a caseworker with personal ties to PD. :mad:

Trista has, many times, clearly stated that SHE made arrangements with Justin to take care of Ayla ~ then there is the DCFS story after the fact. I don't know what exactly happened, but I found it very odd that Trista mistrusted Justin with Ayla after seeing her bruised and battered coming home from visits with him. I also found it very odd that child services would intervene on Justins behalf ESPECIALLY if the bruises and such had been reported by Trista. Regardless as to how it came about ~ bottom line is Ayla ended up somewhere that she has disappeared from ~ where the heck is Ayla NOW!!!
 
Justin missed SEVERAL doctor's appointments?

In that case, Ayla was definitely gone or seriously hurt long before she was reported missing.
:cow:
 
I totally agree. The people that matter to her most (and appear to be responsible for food on the table and a roof over her head) are probably in the driver's seat. At her age it would be mighty hard to go against their wishes (if she knows anything at all about Ayla's disappearance).

Are you talking about Elisha? Isn't she 23?
I think that one of the problems here might be that JD and ED are acting like/being treated like infants by their mother...maybe someone needs to grow up and face reality. They are all adults...JMO
 
Could these people be using some other cases for example?
The Haileigh Cummings.........everyone lie
CayLee Anthony...everyone lie and do not report til 31 days later,
Irwins........clam up and do not talk to anyone....
 
Is Ayla Reynolds Victim of Illegal Custody Grab?

By Carol Bengle Gilbert | Yahoo! Contributor Network – Mon, Jan 23, 2012

Trista Reynolds, mother of missing toddler Ayla Reynolds, and her family, released an online statement Sunday on Facebook addressing events leading up to Ayla's disappearance. The Reynolds family provided information on Ayla's custodial arrangements prior to the girl's disappearance. The account questions whether a child protective services supervisor acted outside of her authority in transferring the little girl to her father Justin DiPietro.
According to the statement, Maine's Department of Health and Human Services took action after Trista Reynolds, under the influence of alcohol, had an altercation with her sister Jessica Reynolds Oct. 12, resulting in a police visit. Trista Reynolds says the next day a DHHS official told her to "kick the alcohol or lose the kids," and she entered into substance abuse treatment, starting that day.
Ayla's Care

More at link


http://news.yahoo.com/ayla-reynolds-victim-illegal-custody-grab-211625924.html

bbm = this is the part I don't get. AFTER being out of rehab she agreed to let him keep Ayla? When he was clearly in the wrong for not returning her?
 
Criminals have lied since the time immemorial. Apparently Cain already knew how to lie when he murdered Abel.
 
bbm = this is the part I don't get. AFTER being out of rehab she agreed to let him keep Ayla? When he was clearly in the wrong for not returning her?

Are you blaming Trista?
I don't think she is very sophisticated...she may not have thought she had a choice, or she may have been naive and felt that Ayla needed to spend time with her father, no matter who he was. Or perhaps she hoped that a mutual arrangement could be worked out and that JD would provide financial support if he could see Ayla. Who knows...in any case, I doubt she could have prevented him seeing Ayla without very solid evidence of specific harm done. JMO
 
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