Gardenista
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Sorry, but that's first degree. He had time to think about it, so it's premeditated.
Sorry, but that's first degree. He had time to think about it, so it's premeditated.
They may end up charging him with 1st degree murder, but in MN one can only be charged with first degree murder by a grand jury. A county attorney cannot do it on their own, so most cases that end up with first degree murder charges will start being charged as 2nd degree.Also, how is this not considered 1st degree re: DV? It's not a pattern?
(6) causes the death of a human being while committing domestic abuse, when the perpetrator has engaged in a past pattern of domestic abuse upon the victim or upon another family or household member and the death occurs under circumstances manifesting an extreme indifference to human life; or
@LouRaguse
A friend of Maddi's also shared an instance where she saw Fravel strike her in the face while Maddi was on a video call with the friend (him not realizing Maddi was on the call)
https://twitter.com/LouRaguse
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A family member of Maddi's told police about a time she learned Fravel put his hands around Maddi's throat. Maddi and Fravel texted each other about the incident.
They may end up charging him with 1st degree murder, but in MN one can only be charged with first degree murder by a grand jury. A county attorney cannot do it on their own, so most cases that end up with first degree murder charges will start being charged as 2nd degree.
Oh my goodness, how sad, poor Maddie.
Also, how is this not considered 1st degree re: DV? It's not a pattern?
(6) causes the death of a human being while committing domestic abuse, when the perpetrator has engaged in a past pattern of domestic abuse upon the victim or upon another family or household member and the death occurs under circumstances manifesting an extreme indifference to human life; or
@LouRaguse
A friend of Maddi's also shared an instance where she saw Fravel strike her in the face while Maddi was on a video call with the friend (him not realizing Maddi was on the call)
https://twitter.com/LouRaguse
@LouRaguse
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A family member of Maddi's told police about a time she learned Fravel put his hands around Maddi's throat. Maddi and Fravel texted each other about the
I sure hope so. This evil man makes me sick. How was he able to live each day knowing what he did? I hope he isn’t able to sleep a wink and he can look forward to being behind bars for a very long time.That makes total sense. TY for the info
It makes you want to ask why bother with the Q&A?? What's the next step for him?? Probable cause hearing???I understand why they are keeping things close to their chest.. but at this point, it's been more than 60 days.. They do have additional information. They now have her body. They have the suspect. I don't completely understand the need for the no comments.. Especially about some of these questions.
I've worked with DV victims, staff and LE as an victim advocate, so I would guess MK at the least would have confided with her sister or a close friend. If so, we'll likely hear about it. IMO, in some of her comments, her sister was wanting to talk but couldn't. So, IMO there were previous incidents of threats or verbal abuse, if not physical abuse.Does anyone know if there were prior incidents of domestic abuse bw Maddie and Adam? Either documented by police /court system or anything shared by her family?
He could have thought that but if not, he needed to file for the kids otherwise what would people think??Was there a history of DV in their relationship? I can not remember if that has ever been stated or discussed.
I am still shocked that he seemed to think he would get away with this. (I only assume that because of him filing for custody of the kids, which would lead me to believe he thought he would not be going to jail).
Yes. IMO, he is a coward, a bully and wannabe tough guy but would not surprise me that he had help after the fact. Has he ever done anything on his own??In the presser did you notice LE never ruled out an accomplice.
I hope this happens in this case as well. Maddi deserves better.They may end up charging him with 1st degree murder, but in MN one can only be charged with first degree murder by a grand jury. A county attorney cannot do it on their own, so most cases that end up with first degree murder charges will start being charged as 2nd degree.
WOW! so there was previous evidence of abuse!Has the complaint attached.
Former partner of Madeline Kingsbury charged with 2 counts of 2nd degree murder
Fravel appeared in court Friday morning where a judge set his bail at $2 million unconditional with a $1 million conditional.www.weau.com
In the presser did you notice LE never ruled out an accomplice.
The attached order of detention with the probable cause statement gives a detailed well-documented timeline and in my opinion, it appears that the suspect acted alone. It seems that the body was found by a deputy as a result of the narrowing of a search area. If he had gotten help after the fact, I would think the deputy wouldn't have found the victim in the location she was left. MOOYes. IMO, he is a coward, a bully and wannabe tough guy but would not surprise me that he had help after the fact. Has he ever done anything on his own??