NC NC - Sara Graham, 18, Fairmont, 4 February 2015 - #1

[Aeronomy]

I didn't draw the triangulation, but . . .

Jenkins Rd is represented by the preschool looking red line.
Sara's home is beneath the pink triangle. (I don't want to provide the actual address since I've not seen it in MSM, but her home sits within the most populated area within that stretch of the road.)

It is only about a 1.1 mile driving distance from Sara's home to Jenkins Rd.
However, it's only 0.4 miles as the crow flies - or as the cell signal flies - with the midway point of Jenkins Rd still less than 1 mile away from her home, as the crow flies.

At this point I'm wondering if her phone was powered off while she was still at home. I think knowing if she had her phone on wifi and/or if wifi was available in the home could help.

 

[Starry Night]

I am thinking she had met someone either at work or at a convenience store and had befriended them. Some random guy. So he slowly groomed her to trust him and I would say either a VERBAL agreement to meet or he just sorta showed up on her way to work. She stopped and he said 'hop in-let's get coffee/breakfast whatever-I'll get you back in time for work. Probably some older guy.
Because to me she seems so naive and friendly. So he follows her and flashes his lights and flags her down-she stops-recognizes him-all delighted-and he tells her some bs about her car or hey-let's talk a minute-come with me.

Her naitvety is what kills me here-he saw it. She had no clue. No-one else would either. He could have been one of her customers at WM who silently flirted with her and made her giddy.

just my own opinion and musings. LE needs to thoroughly check all gas stations/convenience stores on her way to Wal-Mart-

This is a very rural area-not so much texting and twitter and facebook crap if u want to hook up. They do it the old-fashioned way-just show up unexpectedly.
She looks 16 and innocent. She would have been an easy mark for some savvy older type romeo living near there.
I am so praying for her and so angry at my stated scenario because stuff happens like that.

 

[FindHG]

I am thinking she had met someone either at work or at a convenience store and had befriended them. Some random guy. So he slowly groomed her to trust him and I would say either a VERBAL agreement to meet or he just sorta showed up on her way to work. She stopped and he said 'hop in-let's get coffee/breakfast whatever-I'll get you back in time for work. Probably some older guy.
Because to me she seems so naive and friendly. So he follows her and flashes his lights and flags her down-she stops-recognizes him-all delighted-and he tells her some bs about her car or hey-let's talk a minute-come with me.

Her naitvety is what kills me here-he saw it. She had no clue. No-one else would either. He could have been one of her customers at WM who silently flirted with her and made her giddy.

just my own opinion and musings. LE needs to thoroughly check all gas stations/convenience stores on her way to Wal-Mart-

This is a very rural area-not so much texting and twitter and facebook crap if u want to hook up. They do it the old-fashioned way-just show up unexpectedly.
She looks 16 and innocent. She would have been an easy mark for some savvy older type romeo living near there.
I am so praying for her and so angry at my stated scenario because stuff happens like that.

Though that makes much sense, Sara seems pretty sensible (with two parents in LE watching out for her), as well as friendly and sweet, to me. Not in response to your well considered post at all, but I see no reason to question the sense one gets from her friends, colleagues, and family that anything was amiss. Her dad said at one point she was interested in trucking, that bespeaks some level of tolerance of her interests that he said it fondly (sorry about not providing a source).

That she is new to the area is what I think may have made a difference, not being familiar with the creeps around. This is brazen if planned, very adept if by chance, and both if it is known who they are dealing with, it seems to me. I wonder if something happens around there Wednesday mornings that stands out, like truck deliveries, truckers passing through routinely who may know the area?

At this point, that nothing more has come out or appeals have been made may indicate that LE may have honed in on some concrete leads they may not want to jeopardize, I hope.

 

[Yvettea]

From my sleuthing , it appears she lived in Texas with her bio mom and bio brother, it appears her bio mom retired from the military and her brother joined the army maybe last year. Her b mom moved to Ca and her brother is stationed in Germany , that is when I believe Sara moved to NC. Also appears that her bio family has 0 communication with nc family or fb interaction with the fb page for sara. All that leads me to believe Sara is safe, cant explain any more why I feel like that. I hope I am SO SO right. Besides that I live in an area very similar to the nc location and I can tell you an 18 year old girl would not want to spend much time there. I think 6 months would probably be the limit, if you know what I mean.

I don't see the point to what you're saying except that you feel good about how you feel, that being that Sara is safe. The absence of activity on the Facebook pages only shows there is no visible public activity. Communication between the families, or with Sara, could still be occurring that would be visible to a friend and could be occurring by phone. Authorities would be aware of that.

I believe you have your reasons for saying that no one could last there longer than six months. It would be quite a different existence in all likelihood from what Sara has experienced in the past. Still some people probably thrive there.

At the end of the day I think the families need more communication and if Sara doesn't come back they will really need it.

 

[Yvettea]

I didn't draw the triangulation, but . . .

Jenkins Rd is represented by the preschool looking red line.
Sara's home is beneath the pink triangle. (I don't want to provide the actual address since I've not seen it in MSM, but her home sits within the most populated area within that stretch of the road.)

It is only about a 1.1 mile driving distance from Sara's home to Jenkins Rd.
However, it's only 0.4 miles as the crow flies - or as the cell signal flies - with the midway point of Jenkins Rd still less than 1 mile away from her home, as the crow flies.

At this point I'm wondering if her phone was powered off while she was still at home. I think knowing if she had her phone on wifi and/or if wifi was available in the home could help.

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I believe it was reported that the cell phone was powered off and that was her usual custom.

 

[simlyme]

I don't see the point to what you're saying except that you feel good about how you feel, that being that Sara is safe. The absence of activity on the Facebook pages only shows there is no visible public activity. Communication between the families, or with Sara, could still be occurring that would be visible to a friend and could be occurring by phone. Authorities would be aware of that.

I believe you have your reasons for saying that no one could last there longer than six months. It would be quite a different existence in all likelihood from what Sara has experienced in the past. Still some people probably thrive there.

At the end of the day I think the families need more communication and if Sara doesn't come back they will really need it.

There is more than absence of communication on FB , I'm well aware how FB works. When you can see who is friends with who or not friends , it tells me something. There's a lot that can be put together by digging. I see a scared 18 year old young lady that would be horrified to tell her father she didn't want to be there .

 

[FindHG]

I didn't draw the triangulation, but . . .

Jenkins Rd is represented by the preschool looking red line.
Sara's home is beneath the pink triangle. (I don't want to provide the actual address since I've not seen it in MSM, but her home sits within the most populated area within that stretch of the road.)

It is only about a 1.1 mile driving distance from Sara's home to Jenkins Rd.
However, it's only 0.4 miles as the crow flies - or as the cell signal flies - with the midway point of Jenkins Rd still less than 1 mile away from her home, as the crow flies.

At this point I'm wondering if her phone was powered off while she was still at home. I think knowing if she had her phone on wifi and/or if wifi was available in the home could help.

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Thank you, Aeronomy, amazing info.

IIRC, the area where her last ping was said to have been traced and the area where her care was left both are relatively isolated even for there and not too far from even more isolated areas.

Wednesday morning rush hour there would probably be at peak around 7 to 8, I assume, then things would slow down, until the afternoon. Sara was last seen at 6:30 am, her van was found near her way to work at around noon. Assuming her last ping was close to when she left for work, why wouldn't an abductor go further with her van? They either had their own vehicle to get further away or could hide her near there it seems, though one doesn't rule out the other, or that there may have been more than person involved. That searches provided no leads or scent trails seems to indicate there may have been another vehicle involved, at least.

 

[Yvettea]

There is more than absence of communication on FB , I'm well aware how FB works. When you can see who is friends with who or not friends , it tells me something. There's a lot that can be put together by digging. I see a scared 18 year old young lady that would be horrified to tell her father she didn't want to be there .

I did find one friend both families share in common. I do not know if she is family. It's late now I'll check again tomorrow. Good night.

 

[Aeronomy]

I am thinking she had met someone either at work or at a convenience store and had befriended them. Some random guy. So he slowly groomed her to trust him and I would say either a VERBAL agreement to meet or he just sorta showed up on her way to work. She stopped and he said 'hop in-let's get coffee/breakfast whatever-I'll get you back in time for work. Probably some older guy.
Because to me she seems so naive and friendly. So he follows her and flashes his lights and flags her down-she stops-recognizes him-all delighted-and he tells her some bs about her car or hey-let's talk a minute-come with me.

Her naitvety is what kills me here-he saw it. She had no clue. No-one else would either. He could have been one of her customers at WM who silently flirted with her and made her giddy.

just my own opinion and musings. LE needs to thoroughly check all gas stations/convenience stores on her way to Wal-Mart-

This is a very rural area-not so much texting and twitter and facebook crap if u want to hook up. They do it the old-fashioned way-just show up unexpectedly.
She looks 16 and innocent. She would have been an easy mark for some savvy older type romeo living near there.
I am so praying for her and so angry at my stated scenario because stuff happens like that.

The only thing about the scenario of someone flagging her down is there have been no reported cell pings in the area her van was found. There are towers that would indicate her phone being in a different location after crossing HWY 41, which is near to her home, and if for whatever reason one or two of them were down, there are others closer to where the van was located. Her van was located a couple/few miles to the east of HWY 41.

I think your theory is interesting, though, because she very well may have stopped to pick someone up at their home or at a gas station/convenience store located near to her home and that same person then shut her phone off shortly thereafter. The cell tower locations combined with the known ping location would suggest the area that such events could have taken place would be between 0 to 5 miles to the west of HWY 41 between Industrial Drive in Fairmont and I-74, and the Jenkins Rd. area, which has been/is being searched does fall within that proximity.

Editing to add: I just noticed where Han stated it was or may have been reported it was Sara's custom to turn her cell phone off while she was still at home. FWIW, I don't understand turning your phone off, or not turning your phone on just before or when leaving home. But if true that that's her routine, then would that mean the ping at the location off Jenkins Rd is not normal since her phone would usually be off, even at home? Otherwise, why would that ping stand out?

 

[Yvettea]

The only thing about the scenario of someone flagging her down is there have been no reported cell pings in the area her van was found. There are towers that would indicate her phone being in a different location after crossing HWY 41, which is near to her home, and if for whatever reason one or two of them were down, there are others closer to where the van was located. Her van was located a couple/few miles to the east of HWY 41.

I think your theory is interesting, though, because she very well may have stopped to pick someone up at their home or at a gas station/convenience store located near to her home and that same person then shut her phone off shortly thereafter. The cell tower locations combined with the known ping location would suggest the area that such events could have taken place would be between 0 to 5 miles to the west of HWY 41 between Industrial Drive in Fairmont and I-74, and the Jenkins Rd. area, which has been/is being searched does fall within that proximity.

Editing to add: I just noticed where Han stated it was or may have been reported it was Sara's custom to turn her cell phone off while she was still at home. FWIW, I don't understand turning your phone off, or not turning your phone on just before or when leaving home. But if true that that's her routine, then would that mean the ping at the location off Jenkins Rd is not normal since her phone would usually be off? There could be so many reasons in every direction for it.

That was one of her last pings possibly from the night before.

 

[KJ's Mamu]

I am hoping that police have interviewed her co-workers to see if their has been a "special" customer...someone who comes in every day she works....goes through her line...chats her up? Sara is described as a very nice person so I can't help but wonder if she would have stopped on her way to work for someone she was acquainted with as a customer that appeared to need help. Or, perhaps a co-worker with an unhealthy crush? Or, on the other side of the spectrum a frequent customer that developed a crush from afar? Hangs around her station without really interacting with her?

So many possible scenarios....I hope she is found safe and very soon!

 

[carbuff]

I can just marginally see the sneaking away from an unpleasant situation scenario, but I can't come up with any reason at all why she wouldn't have called or sent a text or something when she got to where she was going. Or why if other family members were aware of it, they wouldn't let LE know privately.

 

[JerseyGirl]

I have not seen any updates from MSM on the search in a week. What's going on in Robeson County????

 

[margarita25]

I SO hope some of you are right, that maybe she did not want to be in NC anymore, and perhaps returned to TX!!! That would be the best outcome we could hope for, I think!! But if this were the case, wouldn't LE have been able to unravel this by now?

 

[margarita25]

Last night a potential scenario that went through my head was that she stopped for someone she knew. Maybe someone in a vehicle (a neighbor) pulled next to her gesturing her to pull over...or maybe it was someone she didn't know...could the point of interception be very very near, almost exactly, where her car was found? They T Bone her/block her (no damage to the vehicle), she stops, they approach, incapacitate her, perhaps tase her (no evidence of a struggle), put her in another vehicle (trunk?), pull her car over and park it (no fingerprints?), and take off?

 

[LookingForClues]

I keep playing a scenario of the last moment someone was in that van. I'm trying to envision scenarios to explain why someone locks the door. It seems to me, locked vehicle doors typically indicate a driver had willingly exited a vehicle with a destination in mind. . . not only that, but who locks a door of a vehicle they aren't concerned with.
So who was the driver?

Editing to add: I just noticed where Han stated it was or may have been reported it was Sara's custom to turn her cell phone off while she was still at home. FWIW, I don't understand turning your phone off, or not turning your phone on just before or when leaving home. But if true that that's her routine, then would that mean the ping at the location off Jenkins Rd is not normal since her phone would usually be off, even at home? Otherwise, why would that ping stand out?

Two separate posts respectfully snipped by me for focus...

It's possible whoever locked the van, whether it was Sara or someone else, did it as a habit. I spent much of my adult life in a city, and it became habit to lock my doors. My husband laughs at me about locking my car now that we live in the middle of nowhere since there is no reason to believe my car might be stolen out of our driveway. That said, we do lock our cars when we go into town, or to our nearest city. We are surrounded by rural towns but I think most people around here lock their cars away from home.

As for Sara's habit of turning off her cell, perhaps she doesn't get good cell service at home so she shuts it off? We live in the mountains and don't get cell service at our house, so I turn off my phone when I'm home (we have to use a landline). It's also possible that she owns a tablet or laptop that she uses to communicate with friends and family, or they have a landline in their house, so she doesn't use her cell at home.

Yet another thought: I don't know where she lived in Texas, but if she lived near the border, it's possible that she made it a habit to turn off her cell at home so she didn't get roaming charges out of Mexico. I live about one mile from the Canadian border, and when I do get random service on my cell, it is always from a Canadian tower. So we shut off our phones here, and don't turn them on again until we are a few miles down the road where we get service from a US tower.

Just some thoughts...

 

[Yvettea]

There is more than absence of communication on FB , I'm well aware how FB works. When you can see who is friends with who or not friends , it tells me something. There's a lot that can be put together by digging. I see a scared 18 year old young lady that would be horrified to tell her father she didn't want to be there .

I found several people that connect the sides of the family less than 10, possibly less than five, I'm not sure my eyes get tired. The most relevant thing that I noticed is the the father is not friends with Sara's brother (his son?) or Sara's mother. Before I would draw any conclusions from that I would want to see how they each use Facebook. Since their Facebooks are closed to public view I can't do that so I won't draw any conclusions.

That having been said I do not use Facebook so I don't have a feel for the kind of connectedness it may foster. I use the phone and they may also.

 

[Starry Night]

It is too quiet for this girl. I wish we could hear SOMETHING. Is anyone still actively searching? I am so worried for her. Why not more media coverage or updates. I wish we had a local to weigh in.

 

[FindHG]

It is too quiet for this girl. I wish we could hear SOMETHING. Is anyone still actively searching? I am so worried for her. Why not more media coverage or updates. I wish we had a local to weigh in.

It says something that silence has been so on one page tight. I hope that bodes well for Sara Graham, as I'm sure she is LE looking out for her.

 

[Starry Night]

I am wondering-after looking around facebook posts etc....and I don't have or do facebook so I can't read posts except public ones.....IF maybe she is being 'sheltered' by some religious group or whatnot. She may have been manipulated into something by someone who is trying to 'help' her. JUST a thought to throw out there-only conjecture. I just hope this is not another scenario where she is being held against her will by some freak like Abigail Hernandez was.
I hope I am not offending or over-reaching here.