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@White_Mountains so helpful, thanks. Was that in the opposite direction of where the expectation was regarding her route? And where did she get dropped off?
I believe she was dropped at Lafayette campground, across highway down towards left. Then she would have gone old bridle path to Lafayette, haystack and eventually flume. She was probably a couple hours in before she either got hurt, realized she was in trouble, or tried to create/find shelter. All Moo since we don’t truly know her planned route.@White_Mountains so helpful, thanks. Was that in the opposite direction of where the expectation was regarding her route? And where did she get dropped off?
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Keep in mind that I am not a geologist but I believe the headwaters would be in the approximate area of the red dot. NW of Mt Lafayette, North of Old Bridle Path.
From your link:They think she died of exposurepossibly "...blown off the mountain by high winds"
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Missing 20-Year-Old Hiker Found Dead Days After Disappearing in New Hampshire Mountains
Emily Sotelo was found around 11 a.m. by Fish and Game conservation officers on Mount Lafayette.www.nbcboston.com
I presume they mean she was blown down, maybe they found skid marks. So horribly sad.From your link:
"It looks like she had been blown off the top of the mountain in the high winds and cold temperatures," Eastman said.
She appears to have died of exposure to the elements, he added.
Eastman had said earlier Wednesday that the search had switched to a recovery effort, as it was unlikely she could have survived the zero degree temperatures and 40 mph wind gusts for multiple days.
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Do they mean literally blown off the mountain?
Probably not literally picked up and blown off the mountain but I can personally attest to the ferocity of the winds and cold up there.. it's no joke. If you're unprepared for it, the only thought is to get out asap! It's hard to know what pre hypothermic thoughts might have been going through her mind, perhaps even sheer panic, but thoughts like these often lead to irrational decisions that unfortunately lead to disaster. Such a tragic lossFrom your link:
"It looks like she had been blown off the top of the mountain in the high winds and cold temperatures," Eastman said.
She appears to have died of exposure to the elements, he added.
Eastman had said earlier Wednesday that the search had switched to a recovery effort, as it was unlikely she could have survived the zero degree temperatures and 40 mph wind gusts for multiple days.
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Do they mean literally blown off the mountain?
@White_Mountains so helpful, thanks. Was that in the opposite direction of where the expectation was regarding her route? And where did she get dropped off?
The points about sneakers being inappropriate footwear, not having a headlamp, frozen water bladder, little food, inadequate clothing all came directly from NH Fish and Game, the SAR lead. Their interviews are inserted several times in this thread.This has come up in a few posts this morning. I can only speak to my experience as a 40+ year hiker who has hiked 88 of the highest 100 peaks in New England including a number that are bushwhacks (i.e. no established trails) and has hiked the northern 1/3 of Vermont's Long Trail which is generally considered the most gnarly part of the LT. I have not done overnight hikes that include camping, most of my day hikes are in the 3.5-6 hour range but I have done day hikes up to 20+/- miles. I consider myself well above average as a hiker. I'm fit and I move quickly (not as quickly as I used to!!), and I am able to get out to hike about 20-25 times a year. I have only hiked in hiking boots a couple times, and it was decades ago. I prefer trail runners such as the Brooks Cascadia or the Hoka Speedgoat, as do many hikers these days. These kinds of shoes have evolved far beyond the running shoes that would be more suitable for runs on the local rec path. I would say around 40% of the hikers I see on trails similar to this the last few years are wearing trail runners, 45% hiking boots, 15% "other" (traditional running shoes, tennis shoes or sneakers, Crocs/Tevas, barefoot).
We really need to get past thinking that there is a right way and a wrong way to hike because what's right and wrong is completely dependent on the terrain one will be in and the weather one will encounter. The equipment I use would not be appropriate for most winter hiking in the mountains. In Ms. Sotelo's case, although we're starting to get more details about her attire and what she had in her pack, I'm still finding the details pretty thin so although it appears based on what we've been told so far that she was not prepared for the hike she planned, without more facts we're just speculating.
For example, in the last 24 hours it has emerged that she had a pack with a water bladder and some food items. How do we know she didn't have a headlamp in that pack? It hasn't been reported that she did, but unless her Mom packed her pack we don't know for a fact what was in that pack. Was a compass in there? Map? Lighter? Battery pack to recharge her phone? Knife? Any first aid supplies? Only the person who packed that pack, which I assume was Emily, would know for sure.
A medical examiner will determine the exact cause of death, but there has been no evidence of foulplay, the New Hampshire Fish and Game Department confirmed.
Searchers spent two days looking for Sotelo before finding tracks and some of her belongings at the headwaters of Lafayette Brook on Tuesday. Her body was found Wednesday morning.
Yes, I've read those. I can't understand how NHF&G would have known those things since they didn't pack her pack. Perhaps her Mom packed her pack so they found out those specifics from her Mom, but I haven't read anything that stated that her Mom had any hiking experience or had packed her daughter's pack. I guess I just project to thinking about "what if it was me" out for that hike. I do a lot of solo hiking, occasionally hike with a partner or small group. There are people who I communicate my plan to, sometimes friends drop me off at trailheads. Or if I've gone alone I'll text a picture to a friend when I'm at the trailhead ready to roll. My friends might speculate what's in my pack, based on having hiked with me before or based on something I've said to them, but they really don't know for sure if I have a headlamp (or two) or how much food or what extra clothing I'm carrying or if I brought microspikes. They might look at the picture I sent and say "he was wearing black exercise pants and an orange jacket" without knowing that I had a hat & gloves in the pack and tights under my pants and 2 layers under my jacket.The points about sneakers being inappropriate footwear, not having a headlamp, frozen water bladder, little food, inadequate clothing all came directly from NH Fish and Game, the SAR lead. Their interviews are inserted several times in this thread.
Good points - also because at the beginning they said she only had exercise pants and then it came out that she had another pants layer underneath. We can’t assume. I want to believe she brought more supplies with her. And I also have a bad feeling she didn’t, especially considering the outcome. All MOO.I can't understand how NHF&G would have known those things since they didn't pack her pack.
Could be, but she also may have lost items along the way especially if she was in crisis and had a fall, “blown off the mountain etc.” Items could have fallen away from her. Maybe they were recovered and maybe they weren’t. In that case looking in the pack wouldn’t tell us what she brought with her.Or perhaps they had found her pack Tuesday afternoon, and knew what was in it.
I had an experience once where I was indeed blown over by wind while backpacking along a ridge. It was so scary. The next day my face was swollen from the winds.Probably not literally picked up and blown off the mountain but I can personally attest to the ferocity of the winds and cold up there.. it's no joke. If you're unprepared for it, the only thought is to get out asap! It's hard to know what pre hypothermic thoughts might have been going through her mind, perhaps even sheer panic, but thoughts like these often lead to irrational decisions that unfortunately lead to disaster. Such a tragic loss
Probably not literally picked up and blown off the mountain but I can personally attest to the ferocity of the winds and cold up there.. it's no joke. If you're unprepared for it, the only thought is to get out asap! It's hard to know what pre hypothermic thoughts might have been going through her mind, perhaps even sheer panic, but thoughts like these often lead to irrational decisions that unfortunately lead to disaster. Such a tragic loss
From your link: "Winter is an especially enjoyable to climb this peak as it is often overrun with hikers during the summer months."
Snipped for focus....That obsession of going light is literally killing people and the most important thing should be to go SAFE.