NV - 59 Dead, over 500 injured in Mandalay Bay shooting in Las Vegas, 1 Oct 2017 #6

[CoolJ]

The oddest thing to me about the security guards home being secured was that he wasn't even there. He was at a hotel. According to reports.
It's possible that there were concerns for more than just him. I wonder if threats were made against his family.

And the suspects home not being secured...... weird

 

[CARIIS]

The oddest thing to me about the security guards home being secured was that he wasn't even there. He was at a hotel. According to reports.
It's possible that there were concerns for more than just him. I wonder if threats were made against his family.

ah !

There are so many things super off about guarding him.

Its like imo the mob guarding one of there dudes they are afraid will spill the beans.

The question is what are the beans that are so in need of being guarded.

I hate it when I go down memory lane -- and Iran Contra comes to mind !!

OR

its like all that Blue Shield stuff

I remember reading this and getting chills

The ongoing search follows the discovery of a stash of weapons in a Brussels suburb, including Kalashnikov assault rifles, smaller firearms, ammunition, bullet proof vests, detonators, a blue police beacon and security and police uniforms.

this was a while back

http://news.sky.com/story/hunt-for-several-members-of-belgium-terror-ring-amid-attack-fears-10938633

 

[bluesneakers]

The oddest thing to me about the security guards home being secured was that he wasn't even there. He was at a hotel. According to reports.
It's possible that there were concerns for more than just him. I wonder if threats were made against his family.

Against his family and probably his property too. There are undoubtedly people who think they have the right to examine his computer or journals, personal stuff. If it's being guarded even though he's not there they did the right thing. Richard Jewell wasn't the only prisoner in his home - he was living with his mother.

 

[CARIIS]

And the suspects home not being secured...... weird

What does one do --- breaking in --- take something -- or deposit something .

really not all that complicated is it my friend

I am awaiting two things

a) something found in his house (smile now)

b) his brain being found to have some abnormalities as it relates to impulse control
emotional dysregulation, tendencies for violence (like frontal lobe stuff )

we shall see

 

[CARIIS]

Hi my Blue

we have missed you my dear !!

 

[ohreally]

And the suspects home not being secured...... weird

My guess is I would think MGM, the union or family hired the security guards at security guards home since it wasn't local police or FBI securing it
If the reports are true the Reno home was still to be searched by FBI and not released yet, someone in law enforcement dropped the ball.

 

[CARIIS]

Attn all gamblers

Playing those baby machines is playing against the house no?

Do " professional " multimillionaire gamblers do that or play black jack or something

like isn't sitting at a table more real pro gambling.

But if I had to get rid of a bunch of money (that I cant account for via a pay check) it would be great and easy for me to just stick money into a jukebox right??

and I get to live for free --- the casinos don't care i am giving there little jukeboxes a lot of money .

 

[vlpate]

I guess MGM is in on the coverup now.

Seems like a huge conflict of interest for MGM to be speaking for the most important witness to the deadliest mass shooting in recent US history....a company being sued by victims based on Campos' initial timeline.

MGM - whose lawyer's counter claims to MB victim's lawsuits contained a revised timeline that law enforcement adjusted their previous timeline to.

I don't think there was a second shooter, but I sure can't help but think this 6 minute aspect of the investigation is being dictated to LE.

What difference does that initially reported 6 minute time lapse really make to anyone but MGM? Those six minutes could cost them billions in settlements and attorney's fees.

It would be much cheaper to take care of the descrepancy in-house. JMRO (Just my rambling op)

 

[vlpate]

Attn all gamblers

Playing those baby machines is playing against the house no?

Do " professional " multimillionaire gamblers do that or play black jack or something

like isn't sitting at a table more real pro gambling.

But if I had to get rid of a bunch of money (that I cant account for via a pay check) it would be great and easy for me to just stick money into a jukebox right??

and I get to live for free --- the casinos don't care i am giving there little jukeboxes a lot of money .

He had a system to playing the machines...something to do with algorhythims.

 

[MistyWaters]

fear of lawsuits. They need to protect their assests.

What is MB is covering up? It's not as if MB has attempted to conceal the fact the massacre occured from room 32125.

Lawsuits have already been filed. According to the allegations, the legal argument will become to what degree are hotels and resorts liable for the actions of any of their guests. If the lawsuits are successful, we can likely expect a far greater degree of scrutiny in the future including metal detectors, wands and everything else that has become standard in airports.

 

[everybodhi]

They got us. They figured it out.
The cat is out of the bag.

Paddock is the leader of the millionaire elitist Antifa movement and it's all a liberal conspiracy for our helter-skelter revolution.

:gaah::scared::hills:

Las Vegas Massacre Gives InfoWars More Conspiracy Fodder

The absence of information has provided an opening for right-wing media personalities like Alex Jones of InfoWars to proffer their own theories.
Their ideas, often based on scant evidence, fall in line with common right-wing tropes about liberal conspiracies, and millions of Americans are listening.

“Could Stephen Paddock, the lone Vegas shooter, have been a patsy to kick off the left’s war with the right in the streets of America?” Mr. Jones wrote on his Facebook page last week.
The post accompanied a video titled “Video Shows Second Shooter During Vegas Massacre,” which by Monday had been viewed about 1.1 million times.

InfoWars has backed its claim of an accomplice by highlighting supposed evidence like a room service receipt from Mr. Paddock’s hotel room, which seemed to suggest two guests were present. So far, the authorities have said Mr. Paddock was the sole gunman.
Still, the fluid nature of the investigation has generated reports by mainstream outlets that can offer fuel for the conspiracy-minded.
NBC News, for instance, reported on Friday afternoon that investigators had found a smartphone charger in Mr. Paddock’s hotel room that did not match his phones. Later, NBC News updated its report, saying the charger had been accounted for, and quoted a Las Vegas police official who was “confident” that nobody else had been in the room.

Before bringing on Mr. [Roger] Stone as his guest, Mr. Jones said, “All I know is, they’re trying to blame gun owners when it was patriots that got targeted. They’re making their move. The Democrats have said they’re going to have a huge uprising in October, November. It’s here.”

Citing a “high-level” C.I.A. official and “top psychiatrists from the federal government,” Mr. Jones added: “They’re saying clearly he’s antifa. Clearly, it’s the M.O., to trigger a helter-skelter revolution.”

 

[CARIIS]

Forensics...the bullets found in wounds and around the concert area would (in case of SP being only shooter), be if the same caliber and markings of the guns found inside the two adjoining hotel rooms...those guns would have one set of fingerprints, although IIRC, SP had on gloves in the leaked crime scene photos.

The shots seen by concert attendees were seen coming from the 2 hotel room windows, the audio can be heard in many videos.

Each round was aimed at different areas of the park...not both areas at the same time.

Then there was Campo's who heard all rounds, from beginning to end in the hallway -this alone, and only finding one person in the room, would lead Lombardo to believe SP was the only shooter.

What evidence, precisely, do you have otherwise?

First all the steps you describe above cannot be accomplished within 10 hours -- when they took the narrative to sole shooter.

That in and of itself is concerning .

I think I am less paranoid than many in that I don't do SM!

With the passage of time , however, the multitude of first person accounts that have actually made on line , clearly there were a a heck of a lot of uploads that were not near the MD that directly heard shots.

i just cant understand how people from all across the country , from all over the strip , can get together to make up this huge CT that they heard shots.

My conclusion , based on watching the videos . listening to the first person accounts, leaves open the possibility that it was way more than a 64 year old dude.

IMO that defies logic and actually leans more in the multiple shooter cat than an old dude ,who cant find the energy , for years, to put one foot in the shower , on a regular basis -- it becomes hard to believe that his dude had the energy to do what they are saying he was doing

Frankly, by all accounts , in reality , he was lazy schelp.

This astonishing physical capability to get all the stuff into his car, then schlep it up , then unpack it , then hold onto a violent machine in a tripod for 10 minutes --- physically seems pretty far fetched to me !!

It is a huge property. Just schlepping back and forth from your room on the 32 floor to th garage , back and forth , over time, for a 64 year old of shape seems just dumb!! mo

Totally not credible .

They should have picked a 29 year old super in shape dude with a long history of being a navy seal or delta or army or whatever .

A gambler who sits on his tushie for decades just does seem like ,physically, a human being capable of what they are alledging.

His muscle tone certainly does not give an impression of the physical prowess to play Delta force man on the 32nd story of some hotel , in the dark -- has kinda of a
ludicrous notion to me !!

It is in reality - a fairy tale -- he would drop dead from a heart attack .

He is the most unhealthy looking person I have seen!

He is yellow! Red blood cells are MIA!!

mo o

 

[bluesneakers]

Attn all gamblers

Playing those baby machines is playing against the house no?

Do " professional " multimillionaire gamblers do that or play black jack or something

like isn't sitting at a table more real pro gambling.

But if I had to get rid of a bunch of money (that I cant account for via a pay check) it would be great and easy for me to just stick money into a jukebox right??

and I get to live for free --- the casinos don't care i am giving there little jukeboxes a lot of money .

People do gamble professionally only using machines. Hard to know how much they make at it though one article I read said they can average up to $100/hour. However! I don't know if that was about random slot machines or video poker or something else. There are interviews and articles everywhere about this.

 

[LietKynes]

The security cams at MB should give investigators' a lot of info.
Inc. showing who was in that room and what day.
I'd imagine the cameras have been looked at. There's no word if any of them were tampered with... or if they were turned on and working normally.
Can't find much in msm about the surveillance systems at MB in relation to this horrible crime ; but I'm quite confident MB had a good security system operational.
They have a business to run (& their own interests to protect).

 

[CARIIS]

Sadly, we have to acknowledge that the days of benevolent giant corporations long vanished.

We have to ponder the willingness to pick up the tab in order to provide secret service type protection for a rent a security cop that received a boo boo (he was walking around ) on his leg despite a whirlwind of over 200 machine gun bullets.

Yeah that does not defy logic either!

 

[CARIIS]

Has anyone heard anything about a passion of going to shooting ranges -- to hit tiny tiny aviation gas tanks in the dark from far away dead in the center of the tank?

I would suppose if the tank was swiss cheesed that make a a bit of a sense

But i would think it would take quite a marksman to hit dead center on a tiny gas tank , in the dark , far away,

Dead. Center.

Dead Center.

Marksman ship for sure .

Just speculating-- like someone with military training possibly .

Only a possibility tho

 

[everybodhi]

People do gamble professionally only using machines. Hard to know how much they make at it though one article I read said they can average up to $100/hour. However! I don't know if that was about random slot machines or video poker or something else. There are interviews and articles everywhere about this.

Stephen Paddock and the World of Video Poker


Video Poker is what I play when I gamble, unlike slots, there is a game to think about. I am intimidated by other players and don't play at the tables.
I start at the nickel machines and after I've practiced a few minutes, won some hands and built my money up, I go to the $10 machines.
I have won a few hundred with this method and if I lose, I always stop, I never pull out more money if I'm losing, I only play with winnings.
I don't drink much, one drink is my limit, but, if you drink, all your drinks are free at the $10 machines, they are built into a bar.

 

[bears10]

Does anyone have handy that close up pic of the broken window? I am looking but hoping someone else has it easily accessible

 

[CARIIS]

People do gamble professionally only using machines. Hard to know how much they make at it though one article I read said they can average up to $100/hour. However! I don't know if that was about random slot machines or video poker or something else. There are interviews and articles everywhere about this.

I am looking for the millionaire cat !!

 

[Betty P]

For those stating that its a normal, ongoing LE investigation, find me a high profile investigation with this much insane horse bleep in the first 3 weeks:

The brother's out of this world 40 minute drunk interview on day 2 - whoa!!

The 60 minutes interview with the officers - whoa!!

The shooters house was broken into - what??

The shooters wife has been placed on the FBI do not fly list - what???

A wacko alt right twitter journo had to force LE's hand to admit they had the check-in date wrong - can't be??

3 timeline changes, including a private company going out an publicly challenging the sheriff and FBI, then being proven right! - LE is always right!!

Hero security guard needs home security - weird?

Hero security guard and key witness to the deadliest shooting in USA history is missing. - what the heck??

The sheriff lost control of this thing from day one. IMO it falls back to him, he did not rise to the occasion, let this thing get away from him, his officers on 60 minutes so quick, why? you apparently know nothing, why have them on TV talking about it. Then he gets up there last friday all ticked off and acts like the public or the media caused this circus. Laughable.

JMO, the high level of insane horse bleep has happened before. It can be attributed to a high profile domestic terror event coupled with the growing presence of for-profit CT groups on social media. It's turned into quite an industry. One news outlet has decided to capitalize on the hysteria by carefully trying to lend a veneer of credibility to the insane ravings of the CT community. They're cashing in more than anyone.

The downside of all this manufactured hysteria is not just the "witch hunting" of innocent people like JC, it also has a deleterious effect on public disclosure by LE and a further erosion of trust between LE and the public. On the plus side, JC will probably have grounds for a civil suit. Maybe it will also encourage the legit news media and the public to turn against the CT industry.

JMO