CSIDreamer
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Ok, hoping I can speak in general without having to quote anyone....my first postI've been reading for days, just joined.
If the killers made an attempt to cover the crime scene, and they still don't have anyone in custody, I believe it's safe to say it is not IJ or RM, or any of the initial major players in the family making discoveries including BJM and DS, CH and CG, and 3 yr old's mom and 2 year old's dad just can't possibly have anything to do with it on this level. The family just doesn't seem to have the capacity to both commit the crime and be shocked, grieving family. This family and this community isn't like the big city or little cities, there was more denim at the funeral homes than in the Levi section, respectfully, this is a simpler lifestyle.
I believe the killers (multiple) entered through unlocked doors in the night (its the country, people don't lock their doors) and exited out the windows to make the discovery more complicated. Entering, locking the doors behind them, and then committing the crime... at a couple sites, the victims were alert enough to fight back, hence the bruising/tissue damage. More than one perp could over power two large grown men, even one person with a gun could be distracted or overpowered when 2 men are fighting for their lives. I believe the perps may have been waiting for the night that everyone was home and they were certain.
Just because KR was found last, doesn't mean he was killed last right? Except I do think the comment about the killers running out of bullets at the end makes sense. There seems to be discrepancy in some reports, were there $1000 on KR or $1 bills. Can anyone confirm?
The dogs: Oh my. They are animals, and you just don't know how animals will react. Whether they knew perps or not, they could have fled a the severity, been baited with meat, or sedated as has been hypothesized. They were definitely let outside through the door opening. I don't think they sat and chatted with perps then got into a dispute and suddenly the family was attacked. Regarding LE needing the KR dog to be subdued, I don't think that was because he was being ferocious, I think it was preventative.
UGH it sickens me to even talk about this awful, morbid murder in this way.
The drug cartels? No, they wouldn't have spared the children.
Do people kill entire families over cockfighting? I know, gambling... but wouldn't there be more townspeople discussing this?
Heres what I want: Texts and messages between the family members in the preceding week (I mean, who doesn't want that).
Were the dogs tested for sedatives on the day of the discovery?
Were there hens and roosters? Because people raise animals for food and would you pen a bunch of roosters together?
Looking at social media, you can see the family lived a very appropriate life for where they were. Has anyone seen HMR baby shower pictures, the relaxed nature of the family, they weren't on edge. Other family members would have known.
Yes, the cars seem to be a big deal to me, bigger than the grow op. Their lifestyle doesn't look like people who are sitting on a bunch of money. Also, having a baby shower and requesting items certain bigger items for HMR in the winter months, you just buy those things if you are sitting on drug money. (Though, I do wonder why she didn't still have those items from her 2 year old).
Also, what does anyone have on the restraining order for the woman who may have hit CRs. I think this is a big thing! That order was on 4/20, 2 days after DR's post about watching over her family and only a couple days later the family was murderer.
I don't have access to their social media, I only see what is public, however, more was visible in the initial days after the murders, before the public really started to get into the social media aspect. I looked immediately to get a sense of the family whose lives were ripped away, the children who may be unknowingly emotionally effected (I pray not). I can't wrap my head around the mothers who lay their with their babies, if they were even awake for it, which new moms sleep lightly.
The distance between homes, you may not have heard any shots. Also, their could have been something to prevent others from hearing.
Dogs also bark at passing animals in the night, maybe nothing to raise awareness.
I cannot figure out how the person got in and committed a crime in the fifth wheel, its so small. Did KR not get up? If he had cameras, surely his camper was locked?
The people who are upset about them taking the crime scenes: Ugh, if it were me, I would want the crime scenes preserved to ensure my family's killer was brought to justice. Like someone said, the OJ trial is a perfect example of why we need preservation for crimes. Thankfully, in this terrible situation, the homes were actually movable.
It think its really great that they say 8 members of the same family, although FR and HG weren't yet married, she was a real part of the family. I know people have said, what about the Gilley's ? I think everyone has thoughts or prayers for all of the families involved.
Who has acted strangely in the days after the murders? Who missed work? Acted off? Seemed distant? Went away for the weekend? SOMEONE in that town, or nearby, was shady, they HAD to be!
Sadly, I think the Rhoden Family could get more donations through their ******** if LE would find the real killers. I think people need to know their money isn't being donated to enable helping guilty people who brought something on themselves, if the Rhoden's were, in fact, guilty of something...nothing could be worth an entire family's lives.
Okay, I really hope I didn't break rules, please let me know and thank you for listening. People just aren't as into cases like you all and I are :/
edit: oh! And BJMs call, at the end, she says something about FR for sure!
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No, they wouldn't pen the roosters together. They're a specialty breed that basically fights other males to the death. Each of them had to be penned separately. All the little tripod structures are individual gamecock pens.
