OH - Pike County: 8 people from one family dead as police hunt for killer(s) #8

[mrssmith23]

If the caskets are open tomorrow, you can bet that people will be counting the wounds under the make-up. Somebodies will be yakkin' on FB. JMO Daily Mail will pay someone for a scoop, too.

If the caskets were to be open, it would be today at the viewings.

 

[Iona]

You are most welcome... She was a wise woman, and she raised a wise grandaughter!😊

 

[marshamccheese]

I'm not trying to imply they would have had anything to do with the murders, but game wardens patrol rural areas, even at night - the ones around here in NW Fla have night vision cameras and ride around trying to find hunters who are illegally night-hunting. You would think they would have noticed the roosters, traffic in and out, etc. at the properties...

 

[Sharedspirit]

Ok not sure what some are missing..

The problem isn't them saying the other Rhodens are in danger, it is what he said today. He said there was no reason except a last name in common, which isn't a reason for protective custody.

He contradicted himself and the Sheriff.

What he said today was basically anyone with the same last name as anyone murdered is in as much danger as other Rhodens are.

I don't believe that for a minute. I don't believe for a minute they have not had reason other than 8 people with the same name, to think other Rhodens are in danger. Basically he said there is zero danger to other Rhodens.

I don't believe that and it contradicts what they have said and their actions.

I think they were very clear in the beginning that other family members were in serious danger. The only reasonable reason I can think of that he would change his tune about that is if he believes the people he originally thought were in danger are now the suspects.

 

[KKearns]

And just an FYI, if there is any kimd of threat that is acknowledged publicly, when they do, they will downplay it some.

They were pretty strong in the threat level so that tells me they had good reason to believe there was a threat to the Rhodens, but now.. Nope they didn't have reason.

Contradiction.

 

[KKearns]

I think they were very clear in the beginning that other family members were in serious danger. The only reasonable reason I can think of that he would change his tune about that is if he believes the people he originally thought were in danger are now the suspects.

That was all the Rhodens they said were in danger.

 

[KKearns]

I think they were very clear in the beginning that other family members were in serious danger. The only reasonable reason I can think of that he would change his tune about that is if he believes the people he originally thought were in danger are now the suspects.

Also.. He said today not that there isn't danger now but was before, but even in the beginning there was no reason for them to think any were in danger.

"We don't have any information on that. And we did not when we initially said it other than the fact we had eight people killed."

 

[cady]

The info isn't the same.

I deal with US politicians also, not just local and state.

They don't do politicial spin at personal times unless they are trying to win an argument or cover for themselves.

His statement was prepared.

YES it was and even us dolts who don't work for or write for politicians know it. Or, I should say, most do. It is not shocking. JMO

 

[The OG]

Ok not sure what some are missing..

The problem isn't them saying the other Rhodens are in danger, it is what he said today. He said there was no reason except a last name in common, which isn't a reason for protective custody.

He contradicted himself and the Sheriff.

What he said today was basically anyone with the same last name as anyone murdered is in as much danger as other Rhodens are.

I don't believe that for a minute. I don't believe for a minute they have not had reason other than 8 people with the same name, to think other Rhodens are in danger. Basically he said there is zero danger to other Rhodens.

I don't believe that and it contradicts what they have said and their actions.

It is clear to me what Dewine is saying. The Rhoden family was targeted, but the only ones that were in danger are now dead. Surviving Rhodens are not in danger simply because they share the last name. The surviving Rhodens were never targets. That tells me they have credible evidence that limits the scope of the motive. It must be very good evidence to issue such a blanket statement. This is good news.

 

[molly1255]

I think they were very clear in the beginning that other family members were in serious danger. The only reasonable reason I can think of that he would change his tune about that is if he believes the people he originally thought were in danger are now the suspects.

I would think that by now, LE knows much more than they did in the beginning.

 

[The OG]

I think they were very clear in the beginning that other family members were in serious danger. The only reasonable reason I can think of that he would change his tune about that is if he believes the people he originally thought were in danger are now the suspects.

Prior statements by the sheriff were based on information they had at that time. New information has been discovered.

 

[KKearns]

It is clear to me what Dewine is saying. The Rhoden family was targeted, but the only ones that were in danger are now dead. Surviving Rhodens are not in danger simply because they share the last name. The surviving Rhodens were never targets. That tells me they have credible evidence that limits the scope of the motive. It must be very good evidence to issue such a blanket statement. This is good news.

That isn't what they have been saying and he even admits that. They said on the beginning "Rhodens" were in danger.

"We don't have any information on that. And we did not when we initially said it other than the fact we had eight people killed."

 

[nomoresorrow]

If the caskets are open tomorrow, you can bet that people will be counting the wounds under the make-up. Somebodies will be yakkin' on FB. JMO Daily Mail will pay someone for a scoop, too.

It's highly unlikely that they'll be able to see them. Morticians are quite the artists and do a superb job at reconstruction/restoration. I have been to two open casket funerals, as a result of suicide by gunshot, and you would never have known.

JMO ~

 

[KKearns]

Prior statements by the sheriff were based on information they had at that time. New information has been discovered.

Again.. BBM

"We don't have any information on that. And we did not when we initially said it other than the fact we had eight people killed."

NOTHING to say they were in danger initially.

So did they lie then?

 

[creepcrusher]

Also.. He said today not that there isn't danger now but was before, but even in the beginning there was no reason for them to think any were in danger.

"We don't have any information on that. And we did not when we initially said it other than the fact we had eight people killed."

I completely agree with you here. This was a contradiction to what was stated in the initial presser. He did not have to add that last couple sentences. It's confusing.

 

[mrssmith23]

I'm not trying to imply they would have had anything to do with the murders, but game wardens patrol rural areas, even at night - the ones around here in NW Fla have night vision cameras and ride around trying to find hunters who are illegally night-hunting. You would think they would have noticed the roosters, traffic in and out, etc. at the properties...

Lol, we definitely don't have anything like that out here in BFE MI.. I would assume that area didn't either, especially if it's all privately owned property, like it is around here. People hunt on their own lands and neighbors (who are usually family or good friends) land, not to mention we allow friends of friends to hunt on our property as well.

 

[kaen]

I think they were very clear in the beginning that other family members were in serious danger. The only reasonable reason I can think of that he would change his tune about that is if he believes the people he originally thought were in danger are now the suspects.

Originally, they had no real solid idea why the family was targeted. I agree the others may be suspects OR they may have a solid idea about why they were killed and no other family member was connected to the killers.

 

[Caylee Advocate]

That depends on if the road is out of the way or a short cut to somewhere else. My road, if there is a car on it that I don't recognize, I pay attention. It's not a short cut and no reason for people to be on it if they don't live here or aren't visiting neighbors. I only have two neighbors so I pretty much know everyone that uses this road. I'm not sure about the Rhoden property. Would it be a short cut going from piketon to peebles?

RBBM:

From Piketon to Peebles is a straight shot on route 32 West, then right on route 41 North (about a half mile and you are in Peebles). Piketon is basically on Route 23, and just after you leave the city limit, route 32 cuts off to the right. On route 32 you pass both 772 (which takes you to Left Fork), and further up 32 is Union Hill Road.

 

[Pheasant]

Ok not sure what some are missing..

The problem isn't them saying the other Rhodens are in danger, it is what he said today. He said there was no reason except a last name in common, which isn't a reason for protective custody.

He contradicted himself and the Sheriff.

What he said today was basically anyone with the same last name as anyone murdered is in as much danger as other Rhodens are.

I don't believe that for a minute. I don't believe for a minute they have not had reason other than 8 people with the same name, to think other Rhodens are in danger. Basically he said there is zero danger to other Rhodens.

I don't believe that and it contradicts what they have said and their actions.

"We have no new information that would indicate that there is a threat to any of the members of the family," DeWine told The Associated Press in an interview before speaking at an opiate-related conference in Columbus. "We don't have any information on that. And we did not when we initially said it other than the fact we had eight people killed."

When you have a random murder it would be asinine to say everyone with the same last name is in danger. When you have 8 family members killed in one night at 4 different locations, with no motive and no suspect, it would be just as asinine to not assume the family was targeted and any remaining family members could very possibly be in danger.
He also didn't say there is zero danger to other Rhodens, he said they don't have any information to indicate there is. Those are two very different things.

They never said there was a threat to other Rhodens. They advised all citizens of Pike county to be cautious, and especially the Rhodens. Again, I think politically it may be a gaffe, but it was a common sense approach. Common sense and politics are seldom bedfellows. We also don't know what they said to the family. They may very well have told the family they had no indication of any threat but would recommend caution and offered protection anyways, because 8 of their family members had just been killed.

 

[The OG]

Again.. BBM

"We don't have any information on that. And we did not when we initially said it other than the fact we had eight people killed."

NOTHING to say they were in danger initially.

So did they lie then?

It was the proper response in the beginning because they didn't know what they were dealing with. They didn't know anything but felt it was a good idea for other family members to protect themselves out of an abundance of caution.