Found Deceased PA - Four young men, 18-22, Bucks Co., 5-9 July 2017 #7 *Arrests*

[Angela_Beckett]

Spice. or K2. Synthetic marihuana, really dangerous stuff. So happy your nephew is ok

Smoking The hybrid extremely high potent marijuana that is around now causes and I can't remember the exact term for it but men's breasts to become enlarged. My nephew who just graduated from college partied as most college frat kids do and it happened to him. Gave up the stuff and it went away. He even had to see a doctor because if he didn't stop he would have to get a possible surgery to correct his one breast and it was only one


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[jakee528]

Spice. or K2. Synthetic marihuana, really dangerous stuff. So happy your nephew is ok

Thank you! He's graduated and has a job and doing well. The pot today and a synthetic whatever they're doing like you mentioned is so much more potent and not pure marijuana. I believe it definitely is not the pot of back in my day


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[crhedBngr]

Yes my dear, we know that pit, oh do we ever...again in Abby's and Libby's case maaaany of us had nightmares and sleepless nights for weeks (some probaby still do...)...I'm telling you, we get it. Boy do we get it.

(Eta: your avatar has similar potential :wink

(Eta: I didn't sleep a wink and pulled an all-nighter the other night myself, dreamed about those poor guys all night (before they were found). For me, night is when my thoughts are most clear. I have to pop up in the middle of the night sometimes and post just so I don't forget the sleepy visions, it sucks bc I'll be all comfortable and I'm like you've goooot to get up and post this lol.)

This^^^^

I completely understand. Yesterday, I went for a 7.5 mile hike around the neighborhood, just to rid myself of stress due to this (and other) cases.

 

[Whiteorchids]

Why isn't CD bring charged with four counts of first degree murder lying in wait. Which is DP qualified here in CA. I know they took the DP off the table but still seems like a charge of premeditated and lying in wait.

 

[JACKSON JONES]

I wonder if we will ever see the text messages. Those will bury CD if he's lying imo. Kids don't call each other anymore, they text everything. So if he was trying to sell weed he may have used code but it will still be telling. And all the victims texts will also tell a story that may contradict his own. I'm wondering if in CD's sick mind that he thought the last three victims were on to him about JTP's disappearance and that's why he killed them. Figured if they were dead then he'd be clear on JTP's death. He may have even lured them by offering them super deals on weed ... The texts will tell a story.

 

[Whiteorchids]

Aren't they going to be charged torture of a corpse since a couple of the boys crushed to a pancake and all but one set on fire in a pig roaster?

 

[mr_meeseeks]

Thank you! He's graduated and has a job and doing well. The pot today and a synthetic whatever they're doing like you mentioned is so much more potent and not pure marijuana. I believe it definitely is not the pot of back in my day


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K2/Spice, which is called "synthetic marijuana", is not related in any way to marijuana. It's called that for marketing purposes. The substance is essentially an unrelated plant matter with chemicals sprayed on. Not natural.

Modern marijuana is certainly more potent due to selective breeding. Hybrid plants are a cross breed of two species of marijuana, each with different psychoactive properties. However, this is still "pure" marijuana.

Just wanted to clear up some misinformation being spread here. IMO the study about weed causing man *advertiser censored* is very vague and inconclusive. I understand this is your personal experience with your nephew, but I would be cautious about believing something that has not been peer reviewed.

 

[Bdog]

I wonder if we will ever see the text messages. Those will bury CD if he's lying imo. Kids don't call each other anymore, they text everything. So if he was trying to sell weed he may have used code but it will still be telling. And all the victims texts will also tell a story that may contradict his own. I'm wondering if in CD's sick mind that he thought the last three victims were on to him about JTP's disappearance and that's why he killed them. Figured if they were dead then he'd be clear on JTP's death. He may have even lured them by offering them super deals on weed ... The texts will tell a story.

Totally agree. I wonder if that will be up to the victims families whether the texts can be released?

 

[TeaTime]

Wow! That's a very large percentage of people you know that have been victims of violence!! Where do you live??!!

I live in a city that has been deemed one of the most dangerous in the world but none of these crimes happen in the city limits. These are just the people I know very well. I won't recount the rapes, burglaries and robberies, there are too many. Notably, all of these were hard working family people who were doing nothing illegal, had no criminal records and were in 'safe' places.

 

[jakee528]

K2/Spice, which is called "synthetic marijuana", is not related in any way to marijuana. It's called that for marketing purposes. The substance is essentially an unrelated plant matter with chemicals sprayed on. Not natural.

Modern marijuana is certainly more potent due to selective breeding. Hybrid plants are a cross breed of two species of marijuana, each with different psychoactive properties. However, this is still "pure" marijuana.

Just wanted to clear up some misinformation being spread here. IMO the study about weed causing man *advertiser censored* is very vague and inconclusive. I understand this is your personal experience with your nephew, but I would be cautious about believing something that has not been peer reviewed.

I understand completely what you're saying however he saw and Endocrinologist..if you look up the definition Gynecomastia. I believe you will see it has been conclusively proven to be a fact that is one of the causes of male breast enlargement. That is my opinion and a fact stated by a medical doctor a specialist in that department


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[Jmoose]

I'm not making fun of anyone's physical appearance. I am asking from a medical point of view. Would certain drugs cause breast enlargement? And if so, I wonder if CD has been taking them? Or maybe it's the angle of the view, since a helicopter caught it, and I'm not use to seeing photos from that angle. Does any street drug cause it?

Yes, some anti-psychotics can cause "gynecomastia", which is the breast tissue enlargement that you are referring to. Not sure HE has that; it may just be from gaining weight quickly and not exercising.

 

[TeaTime]

Really, I think DiNada's big *advertiser censored* are because he is lazy and fat from eating too much. They will serve him well in prison.

 

[mr_meeseeks]

I understand completely what you're saying however he saw and Endocrinologist..if you look up the definition Gynecomastia. I believe you will see it has been conclusively proven to be a fact that is one of the causes of male breast enlargement. That is my opinion and a fact stated by a medical doctor a specialist in that department


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This is commonly considered a myth, which is the only reason I replied in the first place. Studies are extremely scarce globally and no links have been proven. I understand that's what the endocrinologist said... but federal laws in the US prevent studies on Marijuana, so its up to you to decide what you believe (unfortunately). Glad it all worked out, regardless.

That's all I'll say since this is pretty OT, I just hate seeing misinformation spread.

 

[jakee528]

This is commonly considered a myth, which is the only reason I replied in the first place. Studies are extremely scarce globally and no links have been proven. I understand that's what the endocrinologist said... but federal laws in the US prevent studies on Marijuana, so its up to you to decide what you believe (unfortunately). Glad it all worked out, regardless.

That's all I'll say since this is pretty OT, I just hate seeing misinformation spread.

Believe me I wouldn't say it if I didn't think it to be true and I would imagine I work in a doctors office and we do studies. However they are for rheumatology not marijuana studies. But you can believe there are are studies that take place as well it is legal in this country. They test everything ..and don't want to argue this fact however, it is my opinion and a medical doctors opinion as well. And not just one I might add… Many agree as well..


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[Jax49]

[video=cnn;us/2017/07/15/cosmo-dinardo-sean-kratz-pennsylvania-killings-gingras-nr.cnn]http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/14/us/missing-pennsylvania-men-charges/index.html[/video]

The families of the victims agreed to take the death penalty off the table in exchange for his confession, according to Bucks County Assistant District Attorney Gregg Shore.

Glad to know the families were consulted.

 

[Jacquie1]

Eh, I don't think this was the case. I don't think he was alive prior. Backhoes do not move fast, nor do they have very good turn radius. If someone wanted to outrun one or turn out of its path and change direction, it's easy to do so.

The original shot in the back probably paralyzed him.

 

[0101ABA]

I don't think this has been posted yet, my apologies if it has.

Vigil at 9/11 Memorial Planned for Four Men Found Slain on Bucks County Farm

A vigil for the four men found slain on an estate in Bucks County, Pennsylvania, is set for Sunday night, as two cousins suspected in the killings await a court hearing Saturday morning.

The memorial ceremony is set for the Garden of Reflection 9/11 Memorial in Newtown Township, the hometown of one of the victims, Jimi Taro Patrick, 19. All four, including Dean Finocchiaro, 19, of Middletown Township, Mark Sturgis, 22, of Pennsburg, Montgomery County and Tom Meo, 21, of Plumstead Township, will be remembered.

 

[Whiteorchids]

Really, I think DiNada's big *advertiser censored* are because he is lazy and fat from eating too much. They will serve him well in prison.

Yep with his wealthy parents I'm sure his commissary will be well stocked and will always have the max amount allowed in his account.

I would like to know why his moms 357 magnum and the other guns weren't in a locked case as he wasn't allowed to buy or have guns because of his mental condition. When are these parents going to wake up? just like that gun toting autistic killer Adam Lanza. His mom avid gun enthusiast knew her son had severe issues yet he killed all those poor children. I don't understand the negligence of these enablers.

I mean come on already if your children drug addicts you going to leave drugs around when they live with you? Wake up parents.

 

[swooooooooo]

Thank you! He's graduated and has a job and doing well. The pot today and a synthetic whatever they're doing like you mentioned is so much more potent and not pure marijuana. I believe it definitely is not the pot of back in my day


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You can't really compare pot and the synthetics. Pot is pot. Sure there is different grades/qualities but the effects are pretty much the same. It just takes less to achieve the same effect with the better quality stuff.

Synthetics are a whole different ballgame. They are nothing like pot. One puff of a potent synthetic can cause psychotic symptoms, seizures, panic attacks, hallucinations all kinds of crazy symptoms.

 

[epiphany]

I understand completely what you're saying however he saw and Endocrinologist..if you look up the definition Gynecomastia. I believe you will see it has been conclusively proven to be a fact that is one of the causes of male breast enlargement. That is my opinion and a fact stated by a medical doctor a specialist in that department


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I see that among many other reasons why gynecomastia MAY occur, these are listed in the very respected Mayo Clinic site:


Street drugs and alcohol

Substances that can cause gynecomastia include:

Alcohol
Amphetamines
Marijuana
Heroin
Methadone

http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/gynecomastia/symptoms-causes/dxc-20257772


Also, Medline Plus, the National Institutes of Health's Web site for patients and their families and friends. Produced by the National Library of Medicine, the world’s largest medical library:

DRUG AND ALCOHOL USE

Using certain substances can cause breast enlargement:

Alcohol
Amphetamines
Heroin
Marijuana
Methadone

https://medlineplus.gov/ency/article/003165.htm