Identified! PA - White Haven, 'Beth Doe' & Unborn Baby 169UFPA, 16-22, Dec'76 - #2 - Evelyn Colon

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Springrain said:
I agree 100%...only reason I asked was to know about the resemblance to the recon by NCMEC...I had assumed for the longest time that the PM pic was not available. I can't believe they would make photo of a young woman with her nose cut off publically available...horrible...yet they won't publish the high quality photograph of the writing on her hand.
May Beth and Baby Doe RIP.
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The (available) photos of her hand don't show the notations. They are of very high resolution and there are a couple of small dots that are probably what is left of the ink but what is visible is the fingerprint powder on her fingers so I'm assuming the pics were taken after her hands were cleaned in preparation to take her prints.

PSP sent me the hand photos in 12/04 with the stipulation that I would not disseminate them anywhere and I haven't in all these years. So I'm beyond surprised and, frankly, a little horrified that pics of her face have been posted on the 'net for the world to see. I know there are photos of the Black Dahlia and Sharon Tate and others but Beth Doe? Why? Maybe I'm too close but I feel that her face out there will be just more fodder for those with an appetite for the gruesome and gory.

That said, some good can come of this. I got a message on FB not long ago, someone asking if Carl had attempted a recon. I said that I didn't see how he could without a postmortem pic. Well, now he can work his magic. IMO, the closest recons to her face are the original sketch done by the PSP artist and NCMEC's first recon(s). TIA for your efforts, Carl. I look forward to seeing your result.
 
CarlK90245 said:
I got a copy of the partial PM from Taramarie (thanks), and I am working on a new recon.

JMHO - She looks much more like the older recon. I don't think she looks at all like the new recon. She has a very European look. The new NCMEC recon makes her look mediterranean or middle eastern. I don't see that look at all in the PM photo.
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Carl, you are amazing. I so admire your dedication and skills.
 
I agree with Carl, she looks a lot more like the older recon. I believe her lips are a lot thinner than what is depicted in the newer recon. Also, as taramarie noted, the mole above her eyebrow is a lot more prominent. There looks to be a lighter mole beside the one above her eyebrow, and another darker one on her cheek. One other thing-- her eyes look blueish-grey.

Although I certainly don't have Carl's skill, I do have a little experience with digital painting. I decided to do my own touch up of the morgue photo and combined it with half of the older reconstruction. Again, based on half of the post-mortem photo the older recon is the closest to her overall look IMO. I'm glad to hear that you are creating a new recon for Beth Doe, Carl. I trust in your work one hundred percent and I really admire what you do. :smile:

(Also, if anyone is interested in viewing the touched up photo, you can message me. The original is very graphic as stated before. I've altered the post-mortem effects, but still kept the overall shape of her features.)
 
EffyElsewhere said:
I agree with Carl, she looks a lot more like the older recon. I believe her lips are a lot thinner than what is depicted in the newer recon. Also, as taramarie noted, the mole above her eyebrow is a lot more prominent. There looks to be a lighter mole beside the one above her eyebrow, and another darker one on her cheek. One other thing-- her eyes look blueish-grey.

Although I certainly don't have Carl's skill, I do have a little experience with digital painting. I decided to do my own touch up of the morgue photo and combined it with half of the older reconstruction. Again, based on half of the post-mortem photo the older recon is the closest to her overall look IMO. I'm glad to hear that you are creating a new recon for Beth Doe, Carl. I trust in your work one hundred percent and I really admire what you do. :smile:

(Also, if anyone is interested in viewing the touched up photo, you can message me. The original is very graphic as stated before. I've altered the post-mortem effects, but still kept the overall shape of her features.)
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So were her eyes open? I really DO NOT want to see the PM since it is so graphic.
 
They were partially opened, yes. The color of her eyes are the same color the first recon depicts, kind of the blueish-grey color rather than brown like the newer one. Is there a process of the iris changing color after death?

I understand not wanting to see the PM, I'm still shocked about how public the photo is.I found the photo through an app called Instagram, in which a user dedicated to posting forensic related photos shared her picture on their page.. No warnings about graphic content or anything...This person has 57.2k followers. I can say that I'm glad that I made the decision to see the photo rather than accidentally stumbling along her photo later, sigh.
 
EffyElsewhere said:
They were partially opened, yes. The color of her eyes are the same color the first recon depicts, kind of the blueish-grey color rather than brown like the newer one. Is there a process of the iris changing color after death?

I understand not wanting to see the PM, I'm still shocked about how public the photo is.I found the photo through an app called Instagram, in which a user dedicated to posting forensic related photos shared her picture on their page.. No warnings about graphic content or anything...This person has 57.2k followers. I can say that I'm glad that I made the decision to see the photo rather than accidentally stumbling along her photo later, sigh.
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IIRC, eyes can lose pigment after death. But I don't think that's the case all the time.

It was on Instagram!? There are 9-year-olds on Instagram! I'm sure the poster has good intentions, but I bet some of those followers are not the same...I imagine some of those followers receive some kind of gratification from that. Sick. I cannot believe a PM this graphic would be posted online, especially with no warning!
 
Just saw Carl's recon of Beth Doe on facebook. Amazing job as usual, and a lot closer to how I pictured her. :smile:
 
Poor woman...to think the sick, sick that did that is still out there! I WANT JUSTICE FOR BETH AND BABY DOE!

Also, I like Carl's recon, I trust Carl about this. She looks much paler than previously depicted, when she had a more Middle Eastern (IMO) look, fuller lips, rounder face, darker skin. Upon first glance on FB I thought it was maybe a recon of another girl just because of how different she looked. I am really unimpressed with the second recon.
 
CarlK90245 said:
I got a copy of the partial PM from Taramarie (thanks), and I am working on a new recon.

JMHO - She looks much more like the older recon. I don't think she looks at all like the new recon. She has a very European look. The new NCMEC recon makes her look mediterranean or middle eastern. I don't see that look at all in the PM photo.
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Here is my interpretation of how she would have looked in life (based only on the left side of a frontal photo of her face). I gave her face a little more color after I posted it on my facebook page, but unfortunately, I can't replace the one on my facebook page without also removing the likes, shares, and comments.

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BTW, I agree that her eye looks bluish grey in the PM photo, but according to WS member CCJD, the MedEx confirms that her eyes were brown.
 
Carol had a tattoo on her right forearm. They did recover Beth Doe's arms, so they would have noted a tattoo if there was one.
 
I saw Beth's PM on Instagram today. It wasn't quite as bad as I was expecting, but it still upsets me and I'm crying as I write this post. I do aggree that the previous rendering appears much more similar to the body, yet we should remember that the could have died anywhere between a week and hours prior to when she was found. This could have affected her complexion if she had died on the earlier side due to early decomposition stages. The person that posted the picture explained that her eyes appeared blue due to the fact that there was no longer blood or tears flowing to them and the cornea was then discolored but her iris color did not actually change (This also appears to be the case with baby "Delta Dawn" whose eye color could not be assessed but was described to have possibly been blue or brown). We should also acknowledge that the trauma she endured would have affected her features somewhat, due to expressing the pain she would have felt (since the old recon primarily changed the colors and kept the expression of the body. When I took a closer look at the picture, I can actually see where the olive complexion was given for the newest recon - I feel her skin actually does appear darker if you look at it long enough. Probably looked paler due to the same reason that her eyes looked different, since there was no blood moving through her body. I hope whatever monster did this to her gets caught. If he doesn't, I hope the *advertiser censored* sees her bloodied face everytime he closes his eyes or dreams.
 
Gourami Watcher said:
I do aggree that the previous rendering appears much more similar to the body, yet we should remember that the could have died anywhere between a week and hours prior to when she was found. This could have affected her complexion if she had died on the earlier side due to early decomposition stages.
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This was December in Pennsylvania. There was very little decomposition because her remains were probably frozen.

Gourami Watcher said:
When I took a closer look at the picture, I can actually see where the olive complexion was given for the newest recon - I feel her skin actually does appear darker if you look at it long enough. Probably looked paler due to the same reason that her eyes looked different, since there was no blood moving through her body.
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I agree that her skin had lost all of its natural color, but her eyebrows were medium brown and fine textured. Her eyelashes were very fine textured - so much so that they were barely visible. Had she had an olive-skinned mediterranean look, she probably would have had very dark coarse eyebrows and eyelashes.
 
CarlK90245 said:
Carol had a tattoo on her right forearm. They did recover Beth Doe's arms, so they would have noted a tattoo if there was one.
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I wasn't a large tattoo, merely a blue dot. Could the killer have damaged her arm in that spot or the skin sloughed off?
 
CarlK90245 said:
This was December in Pennsylvania. There was very little decomposition because her remains were probably frozen.
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It doesn't get that cold around that time. 30-50F is the norm in December.
 
CarlK90245 said:
This was December in Pennsylvania. There was very little decomposition because her remains were probably frozen.
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Officials at the time stated that she appeared to have been "freshly thrown". The newspaper that some of her parts were wrapped in was soggy and they had to dry it out to see what it was.
 
I'm from PA. It would be cold enough in December to keep a body from decomposing. Maybe not frozen, but people leave turkeys on their porches for Thanksgiving and it snows sometimes in October, so definitely cold enough to stop decomposition.

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