costalpilot
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It does not exist. It is Unreal. Dont you get that? Rest easy.
This is all hogwash.:angel:
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It does not exist. It is Unreal. Dont you get that? Rest easy.
This is all hogwash.:angel:
No one said that the prison doesn't suit him or that some organization can come and improve his plight. It is what it is.
I personally don't like to hear about conditions such as these...regardless of who is imprisoned there.
This is true and i said as much. I am taking issue with remarks about Beth and alluding to things that cannot be posted. No more no less.Look, everyone here is posting their opinions. In the Peru case, other than the video snippets (which can easily appear out of context, considering that the video runs constantly and we haven't seen any of that), all any of you are doing is speculating about WHY Joran killed Stephany. You take it for granted that he did kill her, without any hard evidence that he did so.
My points about the ever changing state of the crime scene evidence have been ignored. This is crucial stuff- position of body, murder weapon, wounds, etc. A few mistakes happen in every case, but they are invariably corrected pretty quickly. The ones in this case are still occuring (as of just a few days ago, when we suddenly learned that Joran actually strangled Stephany to death with his own shirt). A solid system of justice is based on understanding principles that we should all hold dear; certainly, emulating a system like Peru's would ensure less violent criminals on the streets. It would also ensure more innocent people in prison.
As for the Holloway case, there is no evidence to connect him to the death of Natalee. That's because there is no evidence that a crime was even committed. She disappeared without a trace, and nothing has been found of her since then. Of course, logic compels the supposition that something happened to her, but without a body, or any forensic evidence at all, Aruba could not convict Joran or anyone else of a crime it can't prove happened. Now, perhaps Peru could manage to do that.
My speculation is just the same as most of yours, just not as popular.
Good timing. My husband just walked through the room and he took a look at the Thai letters on Joran. He said, "That's mai pen rai in Thai guaranteed."
He studied Thai in language school as he was a student of SE Asia for the Army. We lived there two different time periods. I never learned to speak
Thai fluently let alone read Thai letters but my husband did learn a lot more than I did. He's sure that's what is written on Joran's chest.
How's that working for you now Joran?
Good timing. My husband just walked through the room and he took a look at the Thai letters on Joran. He said, "That's mai pen rai in Thai guaranteed."
He studied Thai in language school as he was a student of SE Asia for the Army. We lived there two different time periods. I never learned to speak
Thai fluently let alone read Thai letters but my husband did learn a lot more than I did. He's sure that's what is written on Joran's chest.
How's that working for you now Joran?
Hi Mel. I was looking for thread number 5 and since I'm on my son's netbook with an itty bitty screen and even smaller keyboard to type on I can't seem to find it today.
We had poster that posted that she/he had remembered that rumor (JVDS having an incident that required him to have some sort of psych care) originated from JDVS' parents during an interview (I don't know if it was written or video interview) during the Holloway case.
I can't go back and find that but there's a clue right there if anyone wants to go back and comb through the past five years of interviews with his parents.
I would try to search but I can't until a few more weeks. If no one finds it I'll be happy to try to find it also once I get my new home set up.
http://www.businessbackpacker.com/mai-pen-rai-a-lesson-on-letting-go/
A pretty good assessment of the word and how it is used. FWIW, the description that is used by this blogger can be applied almost word for word describes my impressions of the culture here in Hawaii. Lovely
I'm not talking conspiracy theory now. My analysis of this case is just as valid as yours, or anyone else's.
Facts- we have been told, so far, that: there was no murder weapon found (direct quote from the head of the police investigation); a baseball bat was found; a tennis racket was found; there were multiple stab wounds; there was a bloody mess everywhere, and the body was horribly mutilated, with Stephany's brother graphically describing her missing an eye; the body was found fully clothed, face down, wrapped in a bloody sheet; the body was found face up, clad only in a tee shirt and red panties; the neck was broken, but there was no blood other than a trickle from her nose and/or ear; she was actually strangled with Joran's own shirt.
No theory, no conspiracy in this post at all. But plenty of room for skepticism and doubt.
I'm not talking conspiracy theory now. My analysis of this case is just as valid as yours, or anyone else's.
Facts- we have been told, so far, that: there was no murder weapon found (direct quote from the head of the police investigation); a baseball bat was found; a tennis racket was found; there were multiple stab wounds; there was a bloody mess everywhere, and the body was horribly mutilated, with Stephany's brother graphically describing her missing an eye; the body was found fully clothed, face down, wrapped in a bloody sheet; the body was found face up, clad only in a tee shirt and red panties; the neck was broken, but there was no blood other than a trickle from her nose and/or ear; she was actually strangled with Joran's own shirt.
No theory, no conspiracy in this post at all. But plenty of room for skepticism and doubt.
small world - beautiful! :dance:
Similar to Casey's Bella Vita.
Seems some murderers have no worries and intend to enjoy the good life.
Hmmm. Sounds good, in theory. Not working so well for the two of them.
jmo
abbie
Look, everyone here is posting their opinions. In the Peru case, other than the video snippets (which can easily appear out of context, considering that the video runs constantly and we haven't seen any of that), all any of you are doing is speculating about WHY Joran killed Stephany. You take it for granted that he did kill her, without any hard evidence that he did so.
My points about the ever changing state of the crime scene evidence have been ignored. This is crucial stuff- position of body, murder weapon, wounds, etc. A few mistakes happen in every case, but they are invariably corrected pretty quickly. The ones in this case are still occuring (as of just a few days ago, when we suddenly learned that Joran actually strangled Stephany to death with his own shirt). A solid system of justice is based on understanding principles that we should all hold dear; certainly, emulating a system like Peru's would ensure less violent criminals on the streets. It would also ensure more innocent people in prison.
As for the Holloway case, there is no evidence to connect him to the death of Natalee. That's because there is no evidence that a crime was even committed. She disappeared without a trace, and nothing has been found of her since then. Of course, logic compels the supposition that something happened to her, but without a body, or any forensic evidence at all, Aruba could not convict Joran or anyone else of a crime it can't prove happened. Now, perhaps Peru could manage to do that.
My speculation is just the same as most of yours, just not as popular.
Heyya FLNY.
http://www.etriptips.com/wiki/Thai_phrasebook
Thai phrase book:
Thats all right ไม่เป็นไร (mâi pen-rai)
tatoo:
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=9590&d=1276379979
Background information on examples that gambling addiction can lead to murder
http://www.ncfpc.org/PolicyPapers/Findings 0101-Gambling Add.pdf
Suay = beautiful in Thai. Do you think our paths have crossed?
Similar to Casey's Bella Vita.
Seems some murderers have no worries and intend to enjoy the good life.
Hmmm. Sounds good, in theory. Not working so well for the two of them.
jmo
abbie
^^^SET UP^^^
Ok This may a little far fetched. But could this be true. Joran had so much pull with the Aruba Goverment that he walked after killing Natalee. Could the same be true in Peru.
***He contacts B. Halloway tells her to tranfer money is she wants to know where Nat/ body is.
*** Figures B. Hollaway will get him on extoration. So he comes up with a plan with (Possibly others involved before there is a money tranfer). So he will not be extradicted back to the US to face charges.
***He kills Stephany cause he knows he will not get the death Penelaty in Peru and possibly be convicted 30 years. Then he is not extradicted on Money extoration. So basically he walks free for the next 30 years.