GUILTY Peru - Stephany Flores, 21, murdered in Lima hotel room, 30 May 2010 #22

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Yes I think they were arrested because they did not come forward with information when it became known that the police were looking for Joran. I also noticed that he gave the full name of one of the taxi drivers (four names in total) in his confession. How could he have remembered all four of that man's names? I found that rather strange. I guess he had it written down on a piece of paper because he was going to send him the extra $500 via Western Union...well according to his confession anyway.

So once Joran identified at least one of them in his confession, they were probably arrested for not having come forward with the information of how they had driven him all over Peru and over the border into Chile.

MOO

Thanks for your comments. But, the taxi drivers were already mentioned and quoted in the press on Tues., June 2 and Joran wasn't apprehended until June 3. That's why I presumed LE got their names from the border control.

However, at that time, LE would have assumed that they didn't know who Joran was when they transported him on May 30-31. So, I do agree that LE probably didn't decide to arrest them until Joran stated in his confession that he told them he was a murderer!!

MOO
 
Hi, SuziHawk. The Van Der Sloot property, like their house, was searched. Twenty police participated and the proceedings from videotaped from the air.

Much of the cable news conspiracy talk against the Van Der Sloot parents was caused by misunderstandings about the original search warrant which, following valid legal guidelines that we in the U.S. also observe, stipulated a search of Joran's apartment, not the rest of the family's adjacent residence.

Those connections that Paulus supposedly possessed not only didn't get him the job that he moved his family half way around the world to get, they couldn't prevent him from being arrested and questioned extensively. (With connections like this, who needs enemies?) The assertion that "at very least," he received inside information about the case is based on speculation. However, we do know that Paulus could not visit his son, which could have been permitted, while Joran was incarcerated. We also know that a court back in the Netherlands (far away from his supposed connections) ruled that Paulus' arrest was unjust and paid him symbolic compensation.

The security guards were not employed at Natalee's hotel. In fact, at the time of the disappearance, they were unemployed. I do not know, nor do you, why exactly they were arrested, but a judge reviewing their police interviews ordered their incarceration. (From what we know, neither gentleman is especially articulate or educated, so it's possible that they didn't originally present their stories in the best possible way.) One (John) apparently had been reported to have harassed women on the beach and one (Jones) had some previous police trouble. In addition, items were confiscated from one of their houses. In any case, we know that Jones' lawyer (who had previously also represented John) actually declined to petition for any early release, quite wisely waiting until the next scheduled judicial review to allow the police to clear his client.

Thanks for your response, Chanler.

I've not heard of the search of the Vandersloot property. I know that Joran's apartment (the 'mother in law' house) was searched at some point, but I'm not aware that the Vandersloot property itself was searched. In fact, I read that they refused to allow it to be searched. Could you possibly point me to a link referring to that?

As to the security guards, I think you must have missed my point. The security guards were supposedly arrested because they were known to hang out around the Holiday Inn and Joran had said he dropped Natalee off at the hotel. However, it was known before they were arrested that Joran had lied about that little detail. :waitasec: The fact that the guards had some prior police problems or a reputation for trouble made them an easy target, IMO.

Yes, Joran was finally arrested and questioned extensively despite the family connections - as he initially should have been. But it wasn't until after much public pressure from the Holloway family, for which they received a tremendous amount of criticism.

You're right about a lot of stuff being speculation, of couse. That's all we got since, unfortunately, the truth wasn't told but rather covered up.
 
For someone who told his friend on May 29 that he had no money, Joran certainly had quite a bit of travelling funds to escape to Chile.

Here's what I've pieced together: (Please bear with me, but I have to put this all down - dates, locations, costs - for my own sanity!!! :banghead:)

May 30 - Lima to town south of Lima - taxi - 600 soles (JVDS confession)
May 30 - Town south of Lima to Nazca - taxi - 500 soles (JVDS confession)
May 30/31 - Nazca to Tacna - taxi - 1500 soles (media - JVDS confession: 100 soles)
May 31 - Tacna to Arica, Chile - taxi - 280 soles (media - JVDS confession: clothes, watch, etc.)
May 31 - spent night in Arica - hotel - ?? soles (JVDS confession)
June 1/2 - Arica to Antofagasta - bus - ?? soles (JVDS confession)
June 1/2 - Antofagasta to Santiago - plane - ?? soles (JVDS confession)
June 2 - Santiago to Vina del Mar* - transport and hotel - ??? soles (JVDS confession)
June 2 - Vina del Mar* to Santiago - taxi - ?? soles (JVDS confession)
June 2 - spent night in Santiago - drinks, etc. -?? soles (JVDS confession)
June 3 - Santiago to Vina del Mar* - taxi - ?? soles (JVDS confession)
June 3 - Vina del Mar* toward Santiago - taxi - CAPTURED in Curacaví (media)
* - JVDS confession states Vasco da Gama, but there's no such town; media states Vina del Mar

So, he spent about 2880 soles ($1040) on taxis to get out of Peru plus Chile expenses (bus and plane tickets, 2 nights hotel, taxis to/from Santiago) and meals and drinks....I would guess he spent $1500 - $2000 all tolled.

If SF didn't have all this in her little purse, then Joran must have gotten it from her car, I would imagine. :waitasec:

Whew, now I feel better!!! :dance: :dance: :dance:

MOO
 
FLNY... I want to personally thank you for being the unoffical 'keeper of the records' for this case. You do a remarkable and diligent job of gathering and sorting the facts! Not an easy job in any case, but especially difficult in this one with all the language barriers, lies, innuendo, rumors, etc.

Your contributions are invaluable and appreciated so much! THANK YOU! :blowkiss:
 
Found it :) Now who are the other people listed on his business card?

jorancard-1.jpg
 
Found it :) Now who are the other people listed on his business card?

jorancard-1.jpg


Steve Stifler?! Seriously? That's a character from 'American Pie'. And BJ Martin?! Good Gawd!

(Good sleuthing!)
 
Found it :) Now who are the other people listed on his business card?

jorancard-1.jpg

Whoa....now that's what I calll sleuthing!!! :woohoo:

Congrats on the great find! those 'other names' may become very relevant if the Thailand investigation is true!!

ETA: Oops! thanks, Suzihawk! Guess I should have looked closer at those 'other names' ...LOL!!!
 
Steve Stifler?! Seriously? That's a character from 'American Pie'. And BJ Martin?! Good Gawd!

(Good sleuthing!)

Whoa....now that's what I calll sleuthing!!! :woohoo:

Congrats on the great find! those 'other names' may be come very relevant if the Thailand investigation is true!!

ETA: Oops! thanks, Suzihawk! Guess I should have looked closer at those 'other names' ...LOL!!!

Thanks LOL... I'm sitting here thinking hmmmm too. Phony names it appears, only one phone number.
 
Yes THANK-YOU everyone for the links and comments. The Thai connection has me more curious. Here's a more detailed account I think has just been submitted.

Snippet

He bragged to friends by email that he had recruited a dozen young Thai women who were on their way to Holland—each for a finder’s fee of $13,000.

• Barbie Latza Nadeau: Will Natalee’s Father Find Her? In Holland, he met up with an old friend who had just returned from Thailand with a string of exotic dancers. The friend was netting $13,000 in cash for each woman he brought into a Dutch prostitution ring. Van der Sloot, a born risk-taker, wanted in on the action, and his friend quickly set him up with the Dutch pimp.

Van der Sloot told his parents that he wanted to go to Thailand to study and make a fresh start in a country where no one would have ever heard of him or Natalee Holloway. But what he really wanted to do was cash in on the country’s lucrative sex trade. He enrolled in Rangsit University as a cover, got a student visa, and took on an assumed name. By day, he would play the role of a student. By night, he would be Murphy Jenkins, owner of DD Consulting, which he would describe as a modeling agency specializing in placing strippers in Holland’s better clubs. He even had business cards with a Dutch telephone number printed up.

Much more info at the link

http://news.yahoo.com/s/dailybeast/20100716/ts_dailybeast/9029_joranvanderslootssextradeaccusations

you really have nailed this down - yours is the best report of this
I have read to date. Congrats!
 
For someone who told his friend on May 29 that he had no money, Joran certainly had quite a bit of travelling funds to escape to Chile.

Here's what I've pieced together: (Please bear with me, but I have to put this all down - dates, locations, costs - for my own sanity!!! :banghead:)

May 30 - Lima to town south of Lima - taxi - 600 soles (JVDS confession)
May 30 - Town south of Lima to Nazca - taxi - 500 soles (JVDS confession)
May 30/31 - Nazca to Tacna - taxi - 1500 soles (media - JVDS confession: 100 soles)
May 31 - Tacna to Arica, Chile - taxi - 280 soles (media - JVDS confession: clothes, watch, etc.)
May 31 - spent night in Arica - hotel - ?? soles (JVDS confession)
June 1/2 - Arica to Antofagasta - bus - ?? soles (JVDS confession)
June 1/2 - Antofagasta to Santiago - plane - ?? soles (JVDS confession)
June 2 - Santiago to Vina del Mar* - transport and hotel - ??? soles (JVDS confession)
June 2 - Vina del Mar* to Santiago - taxi - ?? soles (JVDS confession)
June 2 - spent night in Santiago - drinks, etc. -?? soles (JVDS confession)
June 3 - Santiago to Vina del Mar* - taxi - ?? soles (JVDS confession)
June 3 - Vina del Mar* toward Santiago - taxi - CAPTURED in Curacaví (media)
* - JVDS confession states Vasco da Gama, but there's no such town; media states Vina del Mar

So, he spent about 2880 soles ($1040) on taxis to get out of Peru plus Chile expenses (bus and plane tickets, 2 nights hotel, taxis to/from Santiago) and meals and drinks....I would guess he spent $1500 - $2000 all tolled.

If SF didn't have all this in her little purse, then Joran must have gotten it from her car, I would imagine. :waitasec:

Whew, now I feel better!!! :dance: :dance: :dance:

MOO
Superb! :dance:
 
Hi, PittsburghGirl, always nice to see you moniker. I haven't heard anything that indicates that Joran's relatively short stay would have taught him much about Stephany's family's prominence. I followed the Holloway closely, but I honestly have seen no evidence that the family's supposed connections really helped him at all: He was incarcerated twice, interrogated for weeks at a time, and his apartment and family property were searched several times. His father's supposed influence could not even secure him the judgeship he dearly wanted. The absence of a successful prosecution was, as you suggest, because of the absence of a body and evidence of a crime.

I do hope that the tragic disappearance of the young Thai women is investigated further.

Hi, Chanler. Can't believe we're back at the JVDS pop stand. You make good points regarding the limits of influence. Certainly, Paulus couldn't keep his son from being investigated altogether. But "no body, no case" also means that any delay in investigating Natalee's disappearance or questioning the three people last seen with her gave Joran and whoever helped him a chance to get rid of the body and clean things up. As I remarked on the Haleigh Cummings forum recently, the worst mistake prosecutors can make (short of convicting an innocent person) is to prosecute a murderer without sufficient evidence to convict and risking that a murderer will walk free forever since in the US, anyway, prosecutors don't get a second bite at the apple. But at least in that case, the investigation started with the first report of a missing child; the Arubans dragged their feet and by the time they started looking hard at Joran, the best evidence of the murder was gone.

To take this back to Stephany's murder, it's hard, I think, for ordinary people (without antisocial personality disorder or psychopathy, pick your term) to understand how Joran could commit such a senseless crime, with no realistic expectation of getting away with it. His only hope was life on the run or, perhaps, getting back to Aruba in the hope to avoid extradition. A rational person would have learned from the Holloway experience that even in the best possible circumstance, being suspected of murder exposes one to appalling risks (life in prison, the death penalty where that applies, financial ruin for the family, the destruction of the family's reputation, etc.) In Aruba, Joran had the best possible circumstance for being a suspect: the crime happened on his home turf, the victim was a tourist with no family in country for crucial hours after the crime was committed, the chief investigator was a family friend, his father was well-known and connected in the LE community, his family had financial resources, and his father was smart and very strategic in his efforts to save his son. A rational person, that is, would have understood that he was very lucky to have avoided prosecution and conviction for Natalee's death (and possible murder). Joran, however, either concluded that he was bulletproof (having got away with at least one suspicious death) or has simply through the processes of addiction (gambling and probably drugs) gotten to a point where he can't control his impulses at all. In Peru, where he has not only no influence himself but must work against the full weight of the influence of his victim's father, there is indeed a body and thus a case. Our original question was whether Joran knew that Stephany's family had influence in Peru; my point is that he should have known from his experience in Aruba that the tourist is at the disadvantage in the legal system, having benefitted from that situation in Aruba. But in my view, Stephany's murder shows that Joran has moved past the point where he can reason these things out before he acts. If he was indeed involved in human trafficking and the deaths of two women from Thailand, he may have come to believe that there were never going to be consequences for anything he did.
 
Forgive me if this has been discussed before but I'm not clear on whether or not Joran knew of Stephany's family clout, connections and influence in Peru prior to her murder? He knows now of course, but I wonder if he knew then? And if so, how could he be so arrogant/dilusional to think he could get away with murdering a member of such a high profile family?!?

I'm thinking that Joran may have gotten information on Stephany from the gambling community in Lima. I recall reading in one of the reports that out of the approx. 200 gambling 'regulars' in Lima, only 2-3 of them are women. So, I'm sure most of them were well aware of who Stephany was.

Then, she supposedly had won $10,000 earlier in the week and another report noted that word usually spread quickly when anyone won big. So, if Joran had asked anyone at the casinos about Stephany, he most likely would have learned of her gambling ability and perhaps her family background, as well.

But, then again, as mentioned previously, just the fact that he, as a tourist, murdered a Peruvian is enough to put him behind the eight ball in Peru...regardless of her family ties.
 
Respectfully snipped:

. Our original question was whether Joran knew that Stephany's family had influence in Peru; my point is that he should have known from his experience in Aruba that the tourist is at the disadvantage in the legal system, having benefitted from that situation in Aruba. But in my view, Stephany's murder shows that Joran has moved past the point where he can reason these things out before he acts. If he was indeed involved in human trafficking and the deaths of two women from Thailand, he may have come to believe that there were never going to be consequences for anything he did.

Agreed with your complete post. We really don't know at this point if he is a true psychopath, product of his addictions, or a very dysfunctional family; but, it's just my beliefs, if you don't discipline a child they will act out to receive it. I truly believe a child wants to be disciplined and will keep with the negative behaviors until someone or something brings it into focus. Maybe they subconsciously pick up on the difference from their environment; ie: friends, schoolmates, etc, but I'm sure they must have picked up they were allowed freedoms to go to places and do things where other friends would have not been allowed....thinking they were lucky and had it made. Somehow the child/adult views discipline as a kind of love/caring; which it is. Wish I had a psychologist to ask about this!! I've read many a book but have never come across this thought. Curious. jMO

IE: Drew Peterson---he really never grew up, per se and him in LE gave him a false sense of entitlement/control....plus the narcissism from thinking so. IMO
 
Thanks for your comments. But, the taxi drivers were already mentioned and quoted in the press on Tues., June 2 and Joran wasn't apprehended until June 3. That's why I presumed LE got their names from the border control.

However, at that time, LE would have assumed that they didn't know who Joran was when they transported him on May 30-31. So, I do agree that LE probably didn't decide to arrest them until Joran stated in his confession that he told them he was a murderer!!

MOO

Thanks FLNY...I went back and looked it up and you're right...Oswaldo Aparcana was quoted in the press on June 2nd as having driven Joran across the border. And his brief account was very different from Joran's long and incriminating one in his confession. So the taxi drivers were most likely arrested based on Joran's confession.

Oswaldo is the one who gave the dollar figures as $1500 SOLES not US Dollars to get him to Nasca Ica and then another $280 SOLES to get him across the border to Arica. So these payments were not in US dollars, according to the taxi driver, as I believe Joran has implied in his confession with his attempts at withdrawing $1000 US cash from an ATM machine in Chile after having paid them $500 US cash that he claimed he had on him already.

Oswaldo also said that Joran was wearing shorts and white sneakers and had two suitcases with him. The backpack and the beige sports bag I assume. Joran claims to have either ditched the beige sports bag before crossing the border at the suggestion of the drivers, or he claims he gave it to the drivers with his clothes and perfume along with one of his two watches. It's all so confusing. :waitasec:

No wonder LE arrested the drivers. They probably couldn't make heads nor tails of the story either. I just wonder if they have recovered all of Joran's belongings and where they found them all.


MOO

http://elcomercio.pe/noticia/489040/holandes-joran-van-der-sloot-pago780-soles-salir-pais
 
For someone who told his friend on May 29 that he had no money, Joran certainly had quite a bit of travelling funds to escape to Chile.

Here's what I've pieced together: (Please bear with me, but I have to put this all down - dates, locations, costs - for my own sanity!!! :banghead:)

May 30 - Lima to town south of Lima - taxi - 600 soles (JVDS confession)
May 30 - Town south of Lima to Nazca - taxi - 500 soles (JVDS confession)
May 30/31 - Nazca to Tacna - taxi - 1500 soles (media - JVDS confession: 100 soles)
May 31 - Tacna to Arica, Chile - taxi - 280 soles (media - JVDS confession: clothes, watch, etc.)
May 31 - spent night in Arica - hotel - ?? soles (JVDS confession)
June 1/2 - Arica to Antofagasta - bus - ?? soles (JVDS confession)
June 1/2 - Antofagasta to Santiago - plane - ?? soles (JVDS confession)
June 2 - Santiago to Vina del Mar* - transport and hotel - ??? soles (JVDS confession)
June 2 - Vina del Mar* to Santiago - taxi - ?? soles (JVDS confession)
June 2 - spent night in Santiago - drinks, etc. -?? soles (JVDS confession)
June 3 - Santiago to Vina del Mar* - taxi - ?? soles (JVDS confession)
June 3 - Vina del Mar* toward Santiago - taxi - CAPTURED in Curacaví (media)
* - JVDS confession states Vasco da Gama, but there's no such town; media states Vina del Mar

So, he spent about 2880 soles ($1040) on taxis to get out of Peru plus Chile expenses (bus and plane tickets, 2 nights hotel, taxis to/from Santiago) and meals and drinks....I would guess he spent $1500 - $2000 all tolled.

If SF didn't have all this in her little purse, then Joran must have gotten it from her car, I would imagine. :waitasec:

Whew, now I feel better!!! :dance: :dance: :dance:

MOO

The money just keeps adding up doesn't it FLNY. FWIW I checked flights from Antofagasta to Santiago online and LAN airlines seems to run several during the day for $387 USD one way. That converts to about $1090 SOLES although it's possible he was using US currency at this point because he was in Chile. Unless they also accept Peruvian currency. I don't recall if he was found with Chilean Pesos on him.

I guess it's still undetermined really whether Stephany's winnings were paid out to her in SOLES or USD and whether the actual $11,000 dollar figure was in SOLES or USD. It's kind of been going back and forth. Did her family or LE ever conclusively state that it was $11,000 USD that was missing? If it's actually SOLES they are talking about, that's only about $3900 USD and that can pretty much be accounted for in all the taxi rides, hotels and plane fare.

It's also a mystery as to what kind of currency he was using when he arrived in Chile. He claims to have withdrawn $500 US to pay the taxi drivers but there is the question of whether he was actually paying them that kind of money. I can't believe that he would have agreed to pay $1500 US for a cab ride. That seems like an exorbanant amount of money for a couple of Peruvian cab drivers. They seemed to indicate it was much less and in SOLES. (If that was the amount, I'd almost have to believe that they knew he was "escaping" the country and was desperate) So perhaps the $500 US that he did get out of the ATM shortly after arriving in Chile (can you even get USD from a bank machine in Chile?) was used to buy the airline ticket? It appears as though he was using SOLES in Peru and he definitely had a lot more than the 850 he claimed to have taken from Stephany's wallet but I wonder if he ever converted any SOLES to USD or Chilean PESOS somewhere along the way.

You might want to add the 100 SOLES that he supposedly paid to the hotel before leaving to catch up on the two unpaid days to the money list also.

MOO
 
Wouldn't it be beautiful if Thailand was able to bring charges also!! Jail time in Peru, US, & Thailand should keep Joran away from society for a while.:woohoo:

He's now an international AHO. Mother should be proud. Not.
 
Thanks FLNY...I went back and looked it up and you're right...Oswaldo Aparcana was quoted in the press on June 2nd as having driven Joran across the border. And his brief account was very different from Joran's long and incriminating one in his confession. So the taxi drivers were most likely arrested based on Joran's confession.

Oswaldo is the one who gave the dollar figures as $1500 SOLES not US Dollars to get him to Nasca Ica and then another $280 SOLES to get him across the border to Arica. So these payments were not in US dollars, according to the taxi driver, as I believe Joran has implied in his confession with his attempts at withdrawing $1000 US cash from an ATM machine in Chile after having paid them $500 US cash that he claimed he had on him already.

Oswaldo also said that Joran was wearing shorts and white sneakers and had two suitcases with him. The backpack and the beige sports bag I assume. Joran claims to have either ditched the beige sports bag before crossing the border at the suggestion of the drivers, or he claims he gave it to the drivers with his clothes and perfume along with one of his two watches. It's all so confusing. :waitasec:

No wonder LE arrested the drivers. They probably couldn't make heads nor tails of the story either. I just wonder if they have recovered all of Joran's belongings and where they found them all.


MOO

http://elcomercio.pe/noticia/489040/holandes-joran-van-der-sloot-pago780-soles-salir-pais

Great, Kamille! I think we're on the same page....so maybe we'll get this pinned down yet! If only they would report on the outcome of the court appearances of the taxi drivers, we'd maybe get all the missing pieces!! I still wonder why all the local reporting has ceased lately. :waitasec:

Joran apparently did give the taxi drivers some of his possessions, since they are marked as such in some of the RadarOnline photos that we saw about a month ago:

http://www.radaronline.com/photos/image/71346/2010/06/exclusive-joran-van-der-sloot

I've been wondering lately about Joran saying he got rid of the beige sports bag before crossing the border. Why would he have to do that? I'm thinking maybe he confessed that as an excuse of why the bag is missing...when, in fact, he may have left it in his hotel room in Chile (Vina del Mar), as he said he had left his credit cards there. I mentioned previously that perhaps he left incriminating evidence back in that room...some of it....maybe money...could have been in that beige bag. Just a guess!

Oh! And one small discrepancy, although ElComercio translation indicates the 1500 soles was TO Nasca, most others are reporting that it was FROM Nasca to Tacna.

http://translate.google.com/transla...van-der-sloot-no-tienen-como-pagar-su-defensa

Note: The comments below this article are interesting....they are saying the trip from Nasca to Tacna should have only cost 30-100 soles....so the taxi drivers really gouged him with the 1500 soles!!! Yay!! Maybe they sensed he was desperate and tried to get as much as they could from him. (Or maybe that's the special rate for 'turistas'!!) But I still doubt he confessed being a murderer to them!!

MOO
 
The money just keeps adding up doesn't it FLNY. FWIW I checked flights from Antofagasta to Santiago online and LAN airlines seems to run several during the day for $387 USD one way. That converts to about $1090 SOLES although it's possible he was using US currency at this point because he was in Chile. Unless they also accept Peruvian currency. I don't recall if he was found with Chilean Pesos on him.

I guess it's still undetermined really whether Stephany's winnings were paid out to her in SOLES or USD and whether the actual $11,000 dollar figure was in SOLES or USD. It's kind of been going back and forth. Did her family or LE ever conclusively state that it was $11,000 USD that was missing? If it's actually SOLES they are talking about, that's only about $3900 USD and that can pretty much be accounted for in all the taxi rides, hotels and plane fare.

It's also a mystery as to what kind of currency he was using when he arrived in Chile. He claims to have withdrawn $500 US to pay the taxi drivers but there is the question of whether he was actually paying them that kind of money. I can't believe that he would have agreed to pay $1500 US for a cab ride. That seems like an exorbanant amount of money for a couple of Peruvian cab drivers. They seemed to indicate it was much less and in SOLES. (If that was the amount, I'd almost have to believe that they knew he was "escaping" the country and was desperate) So perhaps the $500 US that he did get out of the ATM shortly after arriving in Chile (can you even get USD from a bank machine in Chile?) was used to buy the airline ticket? It appears as though he was using SOLES in Peru and he definitely had a lot more than the 850 he claimed to have taken from Stephany's wallet but I wonder if he ever converted any SOLES to USD or Chilean PESOS somewhere along the way.

You might want to add the 100 SOLES that he supposedly paid to the hotel before leaving to catch up on the two unpaid days to the money list also.

MOO
The Chilean currency is the Peso, all transactions done in Chile are done in pesos. If people have foreign money they have to exchange it, just like in the USA where you cannot pay with a Mexican peso either. There is always a transaction fee when money is exchanged from one currency to another.
Sol is the Peruvian equivalent of the peso and the currency of Peru.
 
I have no idea why Joran's complaint against the lawyer present during his confession is in the Peruvian news again today and yesterday:

"The Dutchman Joran van der Sloot formalized a complaint against the lawyer Marina Romero, who assisted him during his first interrogation by the crime of the young Stephany Flores, occurred on 30 May."

But this time, it also includes a complaint about the translator:

"Van der Sloot also denounced the translator Maurice Steins, who was present during interrogation, told 'América Noticias', said HRH not mastered complicated legal terms and the status of his client."

http://translate.googleusercontent....&twu=1&usg=ALkJrhiVFV0CetgvfsBlYfERicKWjl3cFw

Also: http://translate.google.com/transla...ecci_parent=&txtSecci_id=51&txtNota_id=394959

The original news report re: the lawyer was published on July 3:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/38081398/ns/world_news-americas/
 
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