It makes no sense that she, while drunk and high no less, could manage to go into bramble the police said was too diffeicult for their stone-cold sober dogs. In bear feet and nothing but hosiery on her legs.
I think she was diagnosed bipolar. As are several friends an a family member of mine.
Another “party” drug that can cause hyperthermia (and death) is MDMA, aka Ecstasy aka Molly. It was a real problem at raves in the 90s because kids were taking it, dancing for hours in hot clubs, and not hydrating enough (and there were quite a few deaths). I think Pak or someone mentions Ecstasy in some interview or another, so it got me thinking about it.
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
Thanks for the reply! And according to research articles published by the NIH, BMJ, Annemermed and Science Direct so far it is believed that cocaine toxicity can cause hyperthermia
Just keep a balanced point of view as to what the drugs she may have voluntarily or involuntarily consumed can tell us.Thanks for the reply! And according to research articles published by the NIH, BMJ, Annemermed and Science Direct so far it is believed that cocaine toxicity can cause hyperthermia
Drug-Induced Hyperthermia - an overview | ScienceDirect Topics
www.sciencedirect.com
Cocaine toxicity - Symptoms, diagnosis and treatment | BMJ Best Practice US
Cocaine toxicity occurs within minutes to hours of excessive cocaine use. Some patients may die suddenly before treatment is given. Presentation includes tachycardia, hypertension, hyperthermia, diaphoresis, mydriasis, and agitation. Urine cocaine screen confirms recent cocaine use, but treatment...bestpractice.bmj.com
Your point about sedatives is very good though and it does lead me down another train of thought about their possible effects and does cause me to want to learn and research more.
I am not sure if SG was murdered but what I find so alarming is that you often don’t hear of someone claiming on a 911 call that people are trying to kill them and they are scared for their life and then no one every hears from them again. Than you have a neighbor in a gated community ( a doctor no less that worked with the local police) just insert himself into this story and call the victims mother claiming he runs a home for wayward girls and he had Shannon but she ran away. Then while searching for this missing girl they find all these dead bodies of SW and a year after that they find her body and on top of all of this you find out the police who are supposed to be investigating this are corrupt and also had relationships with sex workers. They also found another killer during these last 13 years which one of his victims had ties to RH’s victim. I mean come on Hollywood couldn’t make this up .. I don’t think that RH is involved with Shannan’s death but their is definitely something going on on that island with sexworkers being killed and it is starting to feel that Shannan’s death could be a homicide and their are multiple killers. Too many coincidences for me.
much like MDMA and meth, cocaine can cause hyperthermia, which can cause people to disrobe trying to cool off.
That is true and I will admit that I may be looking at this with a bias lens due to my medical background and seeing my family and friend’s background change drastically after experiencing toxicity from substance use. I have had friends who ran away from the rest of us, once in a moving taxi too, because they swore someone was after us and trying to kill us. It was a terrifying experience that I would happily not repeat. We did have someone leave our place of residence and reside in dark wooded area and almost succumb to hypothermia after using cocaine. I also experienced an acute manic state with a family member struggling with bipolar disorder. I didn’t abandon my loved ones in these instances either and some of these cases did require immediate hospitalization due to the ensuing physical and mental complications. So all-in-all I have to agree have been using a pretty narrow lens which I have to address and confront going forward.
Right.
to be fair, MSM has reported her to be a known cocaine user, though she apparently was not using it the night of death. That is known to be her drug of choice. However it doesn't need to be a focus, like you said. She was clean that night.
She very well could have snorted up something she thought was cocaine.
Though I am not stating that Shannan Gilbert died of hypothermia, because do not factually know her cause of death, I found online that the marshes on Oak Beach would have temperatures between 52 and 55 degrees Fahrenheit and than found just a couple of articles so far that support that hypothermia could occur at those temperatures. Factors such as age, exhaustion, being in windy or in this case wet (which I believe the marsh was) environments could increase that risk.
www.mayoclinic.org
The question here is, not what her drug was, because no apparent drug was in her autopsy. Now I've studied autopsies on bones, hair etc just trying to figger out accuracy likelihood.
2016
''MILLER PLACE, New York – An independent autopsy commissioned by the family of Craigslist escort Shannan Gilbert revealed that a hole may have been drilled in the hyoid bone near her throat, according to lawyer John Ray.
Craigslist escort Shannan Gilbert may have been tortured before death: autopsy
MILLER PLACE, New York – An independent autopsy commissioned by the family of Craigslist escort Shannan Gilbert revealed that a hole may have been drilled in the hyoid bone near her throat, accordi…pix11.com
“The autopsy findings are consistent with homicidal strangulation,” said Ray, “just like the other women.”
Baden noted:
“Almost all of the skeletal bones were recovered and appeared normal. There was no evidence of trauma. However, the larynx was missing and only the body of the hyoid bone was found; the two greater horns of that neck bone were missing. These structures, the larynx and the hyoid bone, are often fractured during homicidal manual strangulation. My examination of the recovered body of the hyoid bone, after it had been anthropologically de-fleshed, showed a roughness at the margins where the separated bones had been attached.”
Baden found no evidence to support the theory that drugs might have caused her to fall into the water.
Baden concluded, “There is insufficient information to determine a definite cause of death, but the autopsy findings are consistent with strangulation.”
Wow this just doesn’t sit right for me I’m sorry .. maybe if Peter Hackett didn’t insert himself in this case with calling Shannan’s mom with a wack story and then denying it and then all these dead bodies .. I would say yes definitely was an accident but these people are some shady characters.. i really think things are going to start to unravel now that RH was caught.. I don’t think he killed Shannan but something sinister happened to that poor girl.2016
''MILLER PLACE, New York – An independent autopsy commissioned by the family of Craigslist escort Shannan Gilbert revealed that a hole may have been drilled in the hyoid bone near her throat, according to lawyer John Ray.Craigslist escort Shannan Gilbert may have been tortured before death: autopsy
MILLER PLACE, New York – An independent autopsy commissioned by the family of Craigslist escort Shannan Gilbert revealed that a hole may have been drilled in the hyoid bone near her throat, accordi…
“The autopsy findings are consistent with homicidal strangulation,” said Ray, “just like the other women.”
Baden noted:
“Almost all of the skeletal bones were recovered and appeared normal. There was no evidence of trauma. However, the larynx was missing and only the body of the hyoid bone was found; the two greater horns of that neck bone were missing. These structures, the larynx and the hyoid bone, are often fractured during homicidal manual strangulation. My examination of the recovered body of the hyoid bone, after it had been anthropologically de-fleshed, showed a roughness at the margins where the separated bones had been attached.”
Baden found no evidence to support the theory that drugs might have caused her to fall into the water.
Baden concluded, “There is insufficient information to determine a definite cause of death, but the autopsy findings are consistent with strangulation.”
I believe you are referring to Dr. Peter C. Hackett rather than Mr. Joseph Brewer.
