Gore coming on local fox 5 news now. It’s 8:14 am now. You can watch online
ugh I just had to switch him off. can't bear watching that.
I did note his interesting choice of words though, when he said there was no evidence tying AS to this murder.
That hit me in the face too! Also I see a bit of a change of attitude from Gore now that they may reopen this case. I think only for political reasons tho.
Gore: Open to sitting down with attorneys to look at evidence again. Not sure what changed the jurors minds. Most of the evidence was the same as before. Death had elements to make it newsworthy. Death not logical. Why would someone kill someone and stage it as a suicide in an elaborate way.(Gore states here that a murderer trying to disguise it as suicide would not have staged such an elaborate suicide. If killer staging as suicide, would have made it look like a simple suicide. Um, ok) Women have committed suicide in the nude in the past. They do it out of guilt. She felt guilty about Max, talks about diary, put all together with lack of any physical evidence - suicide.
Gore: We did a 2 hr press conference, lots of investigaiton. Still on web site. Willing to discuss to see if there is anything
He's not opposed to reopening the case if there is new evidence leading to that direction
Talked to Greer at studio. Gore: Stand ready to meet with them, realize trauma to Zahau family. He tries to put himself in the position of families. Suicides are always hard for families to accept. Anger directed at him comes with the job.
Greer question recorded earlier for Gore: Sheriff put family through this for years when they knew evidence didn't point to suicide. Mentions Gore opponent who said he will reopen the investigation if elected. Why won't Gore reopen? Gore: Don't bring politics into this. Let's meet, etc. Any detail that's different in evidence if warranted, he will reopen the case.
Sorry for the writing, just quick transcribing. Items in parentheses are my opinion.
Tortoise, here's the link: http://www.cbs8.com/story/37878542/mansion-death-lawsuit-jury-now-deciding-zahau-wrongful-death-suit Scroll down to the verdict video (I think it's the second one). Watch all the way through, they get to the counting at the end.Thanks Mica. I'm searching through the videos trying to find it. If anyone can remember what channel it was on I would appreciate it, meanwhile back to my search.
Lots of national news coverage: :coffeews:
http://abcnews.go.com/US/jury-awards-rebecca-zahau-family-5m-womans-mysterious/story?id=54236047
http://www.businessinsider.com/r-bi...eath-leads-to-5-million-civil-judgment-2018-4
http://www.newsweek.com/who-adam-sh...er-found-responsible-girlfriends-death-872724
http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/latest-sheriff-open-reviewing-mansion-death-evidence-54244736
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nati...123715f78df_story.html?utm_term=.b90977f416af
http://people.com/crime/rebecca-zahau-boyfriend-brother-found-liable-death/
http://www.ibtimes.com/adam-shackna...aus-boyfriend-liable-mysterious-death-2669224
https://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/cal...t-in-Spreckels-Mansion-Mystery-478779723.html
https://nypost.com/2018/04/04/jury-says-boyfriends-brother-responsible-for-womans-death-at-mansion/
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5579073/Man-sued-California-mansion-death-responsible.html
http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-shacknai-trial-20180404-story.html
https://www.insideedition.com/jury-...-zahaus-hanging-death-san-diego-mansion-42148
https://www.bizjournals.com/phoenix...dicis-ceos-brother-found-responsible-for.html
Wow, amazing how many news agencies are covering the verdict. Where were they during the trial?
Given the past history with this case, I wonder if it would also be a good idea to keep screenshots of news articles, photos, etc? Some stuff seemed to disappear the first time around. JMO
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The San Diego County Sheriff's Department said it would be open to reviewing its evidence that could impact its original conclusions in the wake of the verdict, but it stands by the findings of the Medical Examiner's Office and our investigators that the death was a suicide.
Additionally, we are also willing to meet with the Zahau Family to look at any new evidence that came out of the civil trial, the department added in a statement.
http://www.newsweek.com/who-adam-sh...er-found-responsible-girlfriends-death-872724
I've noticed a few inconsistencies in the voting. It still doesn't affect the overall outcome but still, just saying.
There are a lot of bruised egos here and a lot of money ( on the defense side). Personally, I dont think the defense side is going to go away quietly. My personal opinion is that they ARE investigating the jury and anything else in order to call this a mistrial. My antennas are up.
I know for a fact, also, that several years ago there was a link that identified the person who clicked on to the link. Be wary. Dont be paranoid, just be smart.
Voting that AS should pay damages for a death they voted he didn't cause.Inconsistencies? Just between the two that voted for some things and against others, or??? What do you mean?
(P.S. I did realize I responded to your Q earlier in the thread & you answered it yourself later in the thread!)
I heard Ms. Rother's comments regarding the San Diego Police and the feeling I got was, that although they would listen for new evidence ( well, what new evidence would there be???- there is plenty of old evidence, isn't there?), they had no plans to
open a criminal case against AS--
Since an election is upcoming for Sheriff, I hope it is ok to mention the observations of Dr. Scott Fairgrieve on the differences between the Canadian and US system. He is a professor of Forensic Science at Laurentian University. He gave evidence in the Steven Avery case.
A summary of his observations on comparing the two systems:
- Having cameras in the courtroom enabled candidates to use it as part of the campaign for election/relection.
- He discusses a case in Kentucky where public defenders had posters up in all of the offices. He questioned it as he saw it as a conflict of interest and was told that people in the judicial system set aside part of their salary to go to the various campaigns so they can get a fair shake in the court.
All those positions in Canada are appointed, we hope based on their credentials and integrity. The observation he made was that judges/prosecutors/sheriffs etc. are elected in the US & will cater to whoever made the biggest contributions to their campaign for election. He felt that in Canada, these positions have no political motives to convict at any cost. British & Australian system are very similar.
He received a lot of his training in the US & mentioned that they encourage experts to be more suggestive, whereas in Canada experts are encouraged to be move conservative.
I would add that the judge in this case was above and beyond reproach in my opinion.
http://www.michaelspratt.com/poadcast-legal-matters/2016/2/3/the-docket-making-a-murderer-after-show-special-guest-scott-fairgrieve