Hello fellow sleuths, I’ve been away due to a bereavement, I lost someone close, they suddenly died of a brain hemorrhage. Been a sorrowful time for me.
I’ve really missed our discussions, I’m so very very happy that things are happening, but could I ask one of you to do a Little précis, a summary of what’s happening for me? I will read all the threads eventually, but to help me up to speed.
I would be very grateful.
I just saw the slideshow and a pair of gloves on a table....?
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Hi Lezah, So sorry for your loss. I lost a friend suddenly last year, and it was tough. Thoughts and prayers.
Here is a summary of the Marcia Clark show:
Keith Greer- Said that the tube of paint had no dna or fingerprints, other than a thumbprint on the very top of the cap on the paint tube which belonged to Rebecca. He showed the paint tube which was plastic and pointed out that it was the perfect canvas for dna collection, yet had no dna or fingerprints, which would point to it being wiped down. Why would her prints not be on the rest of the tube, and only one thumbprint on the cap? He also showed the one knife that had her prints on the blade. The way her prints were positioned on the blade would be that the sharp edge of the blade would be facing her palm, which doesn't make sense as no one holds a knife that way, which may indicate that her prints were planted on the knife by someone placing it in her hand.
Polygraph Expert- He reviewed the polygraph results along with the video of the polygraph interview. He said that the questions that were asked during the test were asked in a confusing way, and should've been more straight forward. He also said that Adam was wearing a bulky or thick shirt, and ideally you want the least amount of clothing on the arms. With that said, the felt very confident that the results show that Adam actually failed the test.
DNA Expert - Said that there were around 10 items of evidence collected and tested that showed no DNA or fingerprints, which would lead her to believe that things were wiped down. Some of the items that should've shown DNA and/or prints are the knobs on the door leading into the bedroom, the area of the door that surrounds the message that was painted, the small paintbrush, the knobs on the balcony door which was opened. The larger paintbrush showed some DNA and one door knob of the right balcony door showed some MALE DNA. She said that DNA tests are much more advanced now then they were back then and if re-tested it is likely that it will show who's DNA whether Rebecca's or someone else.
Philpot (rope expert)- Said that the police re-enactment of the rope tying is not a correct portrayal and the knots were different in the portrayal than in reality. He also said that the Clove Hitch knot is very familiar in the nautical world and that they are always used on boats. When asked if he thought it was possible that Rebecca tied herself up this way, his response was that he couldn't do it himself and the only way he could see her doing this herself is if she had more experience than him. It was pointed out that one thing that the police point out is that one end of the rope was found still in her hand, which they say proves that she was pulling on it to tighten the knots. His response to this was that, the way the knots were tied, that piece of rope would be ineffective in tightening the rope. He also said that someone would really need to know exactly how to work the clove hitch into the wrappings around her wrists.
Wecht- Basically said that same things he said in testimony. He also stated that in all his years he has never seen a suicide like this, he has asked colleagues and they have said the same. He has looked into studies of hanging suicides and have found no cases similar. He wonders where the tape is that was on both of her legs. (I found this interesting because I thought it was only on one leg) He pretty much said that when you had all of the circumstances together, it doesn't make sense for a suicide.
Rudoy (an original attorney along with Bremner)- He said that the 911 call was strange. Adam never referred to Rebecca by name and repeated over and over again that she hung herself. He also said that they always felt that she wasn't killed by hanging but by strangulation. He said that they believed that she was either thrown over the railing but feel very strongly that she was hoisted up from below and the hanging was staged backwards to get the measurements correct.
Expert who evaluates 911 calls etc - Said there were many things in the 911 call that was strange. Adam kept repeating she hung herself and said more than once that he had just woken up. Most people in this situation calling 911 would say something like "Oh my god, my brother's girlfriend is hanging from a balcony in the backyard, her wrists and feet are tied up, she has a gag in her mouth, she's naked, I don't know if she's breathing, what should I do?" Adam stated NONE of these details. Instead he said "Got a girl, hung herself in the guest house, same place you got the boy" And he went on to just kinda make the call about him, vague with details, and the details he did provide were regarding himself. Examples "I just woke up" "I need to get the address" "I am cutting her down" "I am doing compressions" and how many. When asked if she was still breathing he says, "I don't know, let me check". All of these things are also just giving a play by play of what he is doing, rather than the details that one would think of giving 911. In response of him being asked if she is still alive, he yells "Are you alive?" Normally someone would be yelling the persons name. He said it almost seems like he was acting. No where in the call did he refer to Rebecca by name. He also kept saying repeatedly that she hung herself and that he just woke up, which shows that perhaps he was trying to establish the narrative of what happened along with his own alibi.
It was also stated in the show, I don't remember by who, but I think a private detective? He said that there was no dna or prints on the knife Adam says he used to cut Rebecca down, or on the rope. The rope is very heavy duty with metal fibers in it, strong enough to tow a car, and so very difficult to cut through. The grip used on both items would've needed to be extremely firm, but still no prints or dna. Indicative of gloves being used. I know there were gloves found in the spare bedroom, but in trial , I remember the jury asking for more information on gloves that were found under the stairs leading to the basement. My own theory is that he used these gloves while cutting the rope, and tossed them under the stairs as this was the most convenient and closest place to hide them. I also think he used the gloves found upstairs when he was working upstairs.