Retrial for Sentencing of Jodi Arias - Day 29

[MsJosie]

JA: "And if you don't do as I say, I will rip out your jugular vein with my teeth"

I always thought the lawyer looked scared in this picture. JMOO

 

[east2west]

I wish Juan would play that little snippet, on a loop, in his closing.

mp3 the whole thang and replace the sizzle with her pumped-in newspeak:

“No jury is going to convict me because I’m innocent and you can mark my words…no jury is going to convict me,”

“I’ve lied before. That doesn’t mean I am a liar by definition by character.”

"I didn’t know that you were a hater when you came to interview me.”

" Heather and I are going to see "Othello" on July 1. And we would love for you to accompany us. "

"Longevity runs in my family, and I don't want to spend the rest of my natural life in one place, I believe death is the ultimate freedom and I'd rather have my freedom as soon as I can get it."

“Let me know. Talk to you soon. Bye"

 

[MsJosie]

Well I hope so, but doubt this very cowardly, and sick, individual would be willing to risk cross examination by Juan. I have never doubted that the excuse given for the 14 mitigation witnesses' refusal to testify was patently false, it is my belief that the only thing they were scared of was JM and the media getting to question their credibility and likely impeaching them.

You know when I step back and really take an objective look at this trial, one thing becomes crystal clear--there is a need in this country to have an honest and informed conversation about some very important things--1) The CJ System and victims being put on trial by those who perpetrated the crime, 2) How do we as a nation objectively confront the exploitation/abuse of DV as a defense for murder, 3) Forensically categorizing cluster B PD's as something other than Mental Illness, especially APD, NPD and BPD, 4) does the Constitutional right of a defendent to a fair trial mean at ANY AND ALL costs, and 5) how do we reclaim balance (reason and sanity) in the CJ system that is bombarded with political correctness. JMHO

Felon's aunt (mom's sis), her brother that never shows up, that is all I can think of that would testify for the felon unless there are more 'computer techs' and 'doctors' coming in to testify. I would think that they should have been interviewed by JM?

 

[AZlawyer]

The DT has to stretch this out until after that Omnibus ruling. We talked about it earlier that if JA is sentenced to death BEFORE the ruling she is dropped from the petition and her sentence stays. If she still hasn't been sentenced when a ruling is made and the Supreme Court makes a ruling that the group of petitioners cant be subject to the Death Penalty, JA cant be sentenced to death. She is the only petitioner that has already gone to trial. The rest of them are pending trial.

I think Beth Karas said as much regarding JA being sentenced before the hearing means it has no consequences for her. Then AZL said "No." and offered a reasoning but all of this happened before my nap so I don't remember her reasoning. Something about Jodi not leaving the jurisdiction of some court. Yes I'm not much help today LOL. I recommend you browse through AZL posts.

BBM

First of all, JSS is unlikely to enter a final sentencing order while the omnibus motion is pending. Second, Nurmi is 100% likely to file a bunch of motions right after Jodi is sentenced that will keep jurisdiction in the trial court for months. Third, even if Jodi is somehow sentenced and all post-trial motions resolved and the appeal time runs before the omnibus motion hearing, the appeal court will just revest jurisdiction back in the trial court for Jodi to participate in that hearing.

This is a non-issue, in other words.

 

[ElleElle]

BBM

First of all, JSS is unlikely to enter a final sentencing order while the omnibus motion is pending. Second, Nurmi is 100% likely to file a bunch of motions right after Jodi is sentenced that will keep jurisdiction in the trial court for months. Third, even if Jodi is somehow sentenced and all post-trial motions resolved and the appeal time runs before the omnibus motion hearing, the appeal court will just revest jurisdiction back in the trial court for Jodi to participate in that hearing.

This is a non-issue, in other words.

Thanks AZL. I don't understand what this means:

"If Arias is sentenced to death in her current penalty phase retrial but this joint motion is successful, you can count on the State appealing. If the State is unsuccessful, her sentence would convert to Life."

http://www.courtchatter.com/2015/02/jodi-arias-court-minutes-from-omnibus.html

 

[tlckgram]

BBM

First of all, JSS is unlikely to enter a final sentencing order while the omnibus motion is pending. Second, Nurmi is 100% likely to file a bunch of motions right after Jodi is sentenced that will keep jurisdiction in the trial court for months. Third, even if Jodi is somehow sentenced and all post-trial motions resolved and the appeal time runs before the omnibus motion hearing, the appeal court will just revest jurisdiction back in the trial court for Jodi to participate in that hearing.

This is a non-issue, in other words.

I am so confused. Are you saying AZL that it is a non-issue if she gets DP as in "it will never actually be a DP for Arias. Or are you saying that the fact she is in the group of petitioners for the omnibus hearing is moot because her ultimate fate rests with the trial court jurisdiction?

 

[Fuskier]

Wouldn't you be?

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Disturbingly close almost sensual IMO. One wonders about the relationship (real or deluded) which may have developed between the convicted murderer and her defense council after such a long period of time in consultation with each other. Appropriate professional client/DT boundary? My opinion only.

 

[Hatfield]

I have never been so ANGRY with <modsnip> Nurmi today. This is the lowest of the low. I guess all he has is *advertiser censored* sex and more *advertiser censored* and more sex. I hope the jury can see through this fog and realize that he has shown no mitigation.

All I know is if I was a juror and the DT attorney started angrily yelling at the innocent Bishop about anything involving an innocent slaughtered victim, I would be getting madder and madder at the defendent.

To date, the defendent has not shown 1 good reason why she butchered him.

And whether they had any form of sex has nothing to do with anything.

 

[east2west]

Bingo! This is good. Shoots down the Travis confided to me in my car story.

Thanks LK. Forgot about this gem. Props

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[Mindmatters]

I agree in a sense, but isn't the Jodi Arias trial a sort of abnormality? I think that most other trials are "normal".

Sadly, I don't think so Nali--at least not the defense strategy, as to the Judge's decisions, yes it appears that that is abnormal. Have been doing a ton of research on women who kill and it really appears to have become a trend over the last decade.

 

[ILikeToBendPages]

I really want to know who all these last minute witnesses are. :gaah:

Will we finally hear from Matt McCarthy? I can't see that happening. Juan wouldn't let the "are you sure" about MM betraying her? go by. But I know that won't happen - too many skeletons in Jodi's closet that he knows about, and Jodi wouldn't want to let Juan win

 

[ElleElle]

Today was rough, but don't forget the real reasons why we are here:

"Here are the 8 mitigating factors referenced by Kirk Nurmi:

1) Jodi Arias was 27 at the time of the crime.- She was born 7/9/1980, so she was MUCH closer to 28 than 27, but whatever! Travis Alexander was 30 so what is the point? What does that have to do with the fact that Jodi Arias savagely murdered Travis Alexander?

2) Jodi Arias has no prior criminal record.-
Her crime that she is now convicted of deserves the death penalty regardless, remember when she said that she had "Never killed anyone before..."? To bad for her that she chose to do 1st degree murder as her first criminal conviction, that is not any reason for leniency!

3) Jodi Arias was a good friend.- A "good friend" to whom? She only had a few distant friendships at best and they were lovers she was no longer with, so what? Does not change anything... She was a horrible friend to Travis Alexander! She has continued the victimization of Travis and the Alexander family for the last 5 years! Jodi and her defense team threatened the prosecutor that if they didnt agree to a plea deal of 2nd degree murder and were made to go to trial that they would ruin not only Travis Alexanders reputation but also that of the Alexander family. The state said "NO" so the defense team and Jodi Arias has made true on their blackmail and they have taken advantage of every opportunity to demonize Travis and his family going as far as to lie over and over again and they even forged letters saying Travis had written them, that information was kept from the jury for what reasons is beyond me as its direct evidence! Even Jodi's own mother was involved in attempting to sell the forged letters to the Enquirer!

4) Jodi Arias had a lack of family support as a child and adult.- Jodi Arias abused her family! She was an unruly child and would attack her mother when ever she was disciplined! Jodi on her own accord dropped out of high school and moved out of the house because she didnt want to follow her parents rules, she moved in with Bobby Juarez having a sexual relationship with him... The lack of family communication was Jodi's choice and not the other way around! Jodi victimized her own family including her grandparents! If anything it shows more negatives towards Jodi than being anything even close to a mitigating factor!

5) Jodi Arias suffered from neglect and abuse as a child and adult.- See number 4! Also Jodi brought it all on herself by never taking responsibility for anything that she has done always blaming someone else...

6) Jodi Arias tried to make the best out of her life.- Jodi learned early on from her job working in her families restaurant that she could manipulate men with her looks once having a customer pay for her breast implants, manipulating men became a pattern throughout Jodis life and when the men would tire of her she would move on to another always seeing men as her "golden ticket". When she met Travis it was no different, she used sex to manipulate him and when he finally became affraid of her from all of the stalking type behaviors and when he finally told her that he never wanted to see her again she savagely killed him in a jealous rage! No mitigating factor here...

7) Jodi Arias tried to improve herself.- See number 6...

8) Jodi Arias has artistic talents.- "Artistic Talents"? According to whom? This is just more self reporting to deflect attention from the facts of the crime and was used by Jodi as a mental escape during the entire trial showing disrespect for the court and for Travis and the Alexander family! All of her so called "artwork" is tracings from copyrighted advertisements she finds in various magazines the selling of which is a CRIME! So she sat in court committing crimes as her trial was going on! No mitigating factor here..."

https://www.facebook.com/Justice4Travis/posts/476550375754443

 

[Spellbound]

BBM

First of all, JSS is unlikely to enter a final sentencing order while the omnibus motion is pending. Second, Nurmi is 100% likely to file a bunch of motions right after Jodi is sentenced that will keep jurisdiction in the trial court for months. Third, even if Jodi is somehow sentenced and all post-trial motions resolved and the appeal time runs before the omnibus motion hearing, the appeal court will just revest jurisdiction back in the trial court for Jodi to participate in that hearing.

This is a non-issue, in other words.

So we will still be left hanging after the jury verdict is in..... the trial that never ends. :gaah:

 

[bettybaby00]

Disturbingly close almost sensual IMO. One wonders about the relationship (real or deluded) which may have developed between the convicted murderer and her defense council after such a long period of time in consultation with each other. Appropriate professional client/DT boundary? My opinion only.

I wish we could witness her reaction when she realizes that her entire DT will immediately abandon her once the verdict is in...and I mean ALL of them, from cougarlicious to LaViolette, and everyone in between. I guess the only ones who won't fall into this category are the delusionals at JAII.

 

[LaLaw2000]

There can also be zero doubt after all this non-mitigating trash, that just as many of us have speculated, JA went to his house with the intent of murdering him immediately after sex so that he would die in a state of unrepentance.

I am just now catching up but wanted to reply to you. It is my firm belief that Travis was praying in the shower when he had his arms crossed over his chest and before he knew Jodi was there with the camera. I think she was wanting Travis to die in a state of un-repentance, though. I believe Travis was a good guy and is not designated to hell because of his actions on the day Jodi so brutally and viciously murdered him.

Travis did fall victim to Jodi's attempting to keep him interested in her because of the sex she kept pushing in his face all the time. None of us are perfect and he gave in to a very natural urge, IMO. SHE was the experienced one. Travis had worked to overcome his shortcomings. Look at Jodi. She's never even tried.

I have been down for almost a week and a half with killer flu and am still not 100% over it. I hope I am making sense!

*I am so disgusted with this murderer and her DT, as well as her mitigation specialist. I cannot even put it into adequate words to express it!

 

[holidayy]

Thanks Hope. We are all weary. Praying it will soon end...for all our sakes.

Hope,I agree,but please I so enjoy your posts,your insight,logic,intelligence,ect,ect,. Also there should be a law on just how far you can drag a trial into the future,I mean to go on and on and on. Is this truly allowed? About time someone steps in to stop this garbage,this has nothing to do with mitigation!!!! I also,like someone said had to check to see if I was reading the right trial,lol,not.

 

[east2west]

I think she was definitely screaming accusations at TA during the entire attack, beginning at least by the time she had him helpless on the shower floor.

I agree. Add squeels of biblical verses interspersed with accusations. Nothing but hate with every stab and slice.

 

[Nali87]

Sadly, I don't think so Nali--at least not the defense strategy, as to the Judge's decisions, yes it appears that that is abnormal. Have been doing a ton of research on women who kill and it really appears to have become a trend over the last decade.

I think so too but how can you change the system? Most of those women lie but what about the few that are telling the truth? Shouldn't they have a chance to argue that in front of a jury? And since it's hard to separate the Jodi's from other legitimate cases, you have no choice but to let it all in. I think.

 

[tandt]

I think I'm done w this trial. At this point, I can't care any more except to hope the Alexander family one day finds peace and comfort which may never come.
I hope JA gets the needle but I just can't put up w this circus any longer. The DT are vile people and JSS is a wimp. Luckily the family has JM.
If I'm ever arrested in Phoenix I hope JM is nowhere near!
Y'all take care and I'll see you at another case thread!


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[Sedonia Sunset]

Jen's Trial Diaries &#8207;@TrialDiariesJ · 3m3 minutes ago &#61489; Phoenix, AZ
Nurmi asks Bishop Parker if he should protect others from predators
Parker says "Yes" #jodiarias #3tvarias Defense isn't coming off well

Nurmi must be implying that the church should have protected Travis from Jodi, right? Because she's the only predator that I know of in this case.