Retrial for Sentencing of Jodi Arias - Day 31

[dog.gone.cute]

No doubt DT had to change their shorts and/or magic panties after that round.

:hilarious: :hilarious: :hilarious: LOL ... they may need to send their helper out to get them some Depends for the rest of the afternoon because they are going to need some !

:seeya:

 

[katydid23]

I never said that. I'm saying, the way Dr. DeMarte is explaining it to me, sounds like her BPD is behind some the devaluing things she said after murdering Travis: the abuse lies, the pedophilia, the letter to his family etc. Those were the main things that would have led me to personally vote for DP. To me right now, it sounds like this is what BPD people apparently do and that they somehow can't control.

Of course it's not an excuse, but I'd consider it a mitigating factor while deciding her punishment.

I don't want to antagonize people though, so this is my last comment on this...

Interesting article about this subject:

http://kristinarandle.com/blog/can-...rder-spare-jodi-arias-from-the-death-penalty/


In the majority of cases personality disorders are excluded from death penalty exemptions. With regard to borderline personality disorder, those diagnosed “can experience psychotic like symptoms… during times of stress” but these symptoms can only be considered if they occurred at the time of the capital offense. That was not the case with Jodi Arias.

The “significant impairment” requirement section of recommendation two, focuses on individuals whose disorders make it difficult for them to appreciate the wrongfulness of their conduct. For instance, an individual who is psychotic and who believes that God has ordered them to commit a crime, might be unable to appreciate the wrongfulness of their conduct.


There’s no evidence to suggest that at any time Jodi Arias ever experienced psychosis or that she has a severe mental illness. Remember, borderline personality disorder or even antisocial personality disorder are not considered to be “severe mental illnesses.”

 

[Sweet Fox]

:seeya:

BBM: While I agree with some of these points, I think she is pure EVIL !

This was posted this before: The Bad Seed !

I bet she acted just like Rhoda when she was younger, and as recent as yesterday, you could see the evilness in her face per yesterday's the court photos!

Yep, I bet she was evil as a child just like Rhoda.

 

[josie1986]

Jen's Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 46s 46 seconds ago
Avoidance- People usually avoid the physical act of things and Jodi didn't have this symptom #jodiarias #3tvarias

 

[tinkabella]

That was my point much earlier. But....even if BPD somehow could explain away the why of what she did, and even if it can explain away her lack of remorse, and even her WANTING to devalue him after the murder, it can't explain away why she hasn't taken responsibility after all these years, and as bad, why she looked straight at the jury and lied about her PARENTS abusing her, not to mention the utter filth against Travis they've been subjected to for months.

I think the jury will very much dislike the DT after today, and will not be inclined to believe a word they say.

And her BPD doesn't mitigate that she premeditated his murder, killed him in a cruel manner and then continues to kill him in court. I agree with you 100% I don't feel like BPD is enough to spare her when you look at all that has been presented.

 

[Night-owl]

I never said that. I'm saying, the way Dr. DeMarte is explaining it to me, sounds like her BPD is behind some the devaluing things she said after murdering Travis: the abuse lies, the pedophilia, the letter to his family etc. Those were the main things that would have led me to personally vote for DP. To me right now, it sounds like this is what BPD people apparently do and that they somehow can't control.

Of course it's not an excuse, but I'd consider it a mitigating factor while deciding her punishment.

I don't want to antagonize people though, so this is my last comment on this...

You can feel however you feel. It's not a simple situation.

Does it give you more to think about if you realize that anyone committing first degree murder would show problems on a psych test? No one kills their love interest out of an abundance of mental health and life balance.

 

[atthelake]

Hey, do you think we can invite JD to be a WS member and an expert :giggle: Dayum....she is summing up everything soooooooooooo well. Like the comment just now that PTSD creates an avoidance, and she certainly didn't avoid talking about Travis.

 

[Rosebutter]

Now I'm saying Seriously...Most people with BPD Do Not Kill People, but they do act out.

 

[rose222]

Then JM better make that point quick. I've yet to even read anything about "manipulation" coming from Dr. DeMarte. I know her testimony is far from over but I hope it's coming soon. I don't like this side of the fence.

During the last trial Demarte talked about Arias being immature and needy. I think that some of the lifers felt sorry for Arias--you know, the immature, needy and desperate woman. I agree with you that the manipulation bit needs to be discussed again and again AND again.

 

[geevee]

Tammy Rose ‏@News20Chopper · 3m3 minutes ago
Now I know why the defense wants a surrebuttal. #JodiArias

 

[Love Never Fails]

I'm pretty certain all of the *advertiser censored* (except possibly the YouPorn, which I'm still waiting for a believable explanation about) was only in the Restricted Sites area of his browser(s), put there by Spybot's Immunize feature. There apparently are registry entries of these sites because they were added to the browser but I don't think Travis ever visited any of them.

The *advertiser censored* is not even an issue anymore. I don't care what Travis did or didn't do. She could have walked away. And I would have turned him in to the authorities. Its just a non issue.

 

[DebinGA]

My nickname for her is Dr. "Data Point" DeMarte. It's one of her favorite concepts.

I hope before he's done with Dr. DeMarte, the jury will have a lot more data points with which to gauge Nurmi's soundness of mind. I expect she'll make him look like an idiot.

 

[dog.gone.cute]

From WAT:

Wild About Trial @WildAboutTrial · 1m 1 minute ago


Dr. De argues that #JodiArias doesn't have PTSD.

Says letter to TA's family contradicts the actions of someone having PTSD.

 

[josie1986]

Jen's Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 45s 45 seconds ago
Jodi then went to the home of Travis Alexander after she murdered him and after the memorial. This shows she wasn't frightened #jodiarias

Jen's Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 2m 2 minutes ago
#jodiarias talked about him in her journals, attended memorial, and talked to news outlets after the murder #3tvarias

Jen's Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 2m 2 minutes ago
The past experts say TA caused JA PTSD and Jodi wouldn't avoid him which most would do #jodiarias #3tvarias

 

[josie1986]

Jen's Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 12s 12 seconds ago
People with PTSD startle and scan a room a lot to feel safe...Jodi doesn't meet this #jodiarias #3tvarias

 

[kaRN]

BBM - Oh boohoohoo.... So take the whole bottle and skip the blade, sheesh.

It would have given her serious epi-gastric problems and made her vomit only. Advil also isn't a blood thinner LOL!

 

[pocketaccent]

Tammy Rose ‏@News20Chopper · 3m3 minutes ago
Now I know why the defense wants a surrebuttal. #JodiArias

And why they wanted DeMarte precluded.

 

[rose222]

I don't mean to be rude either and you have to trust me when I say I know every little thing she's said and done to TA and his family. I don't need to see any pictures to remember anything. I've been here since the beginning and I never troll. Nothing will change for me regarding her GUILTY verdict. BPD or not, she premeditated his murder.

My dilemma right now, is in how much she can control the things she do. The cheery little Jodi, the lying Jodi, the devaluing Travis during this trial. Is that BPD? Can she HELP the way she is? If she cannot, I'm leaning towards LWOP.

That can be said about most criminals including serial killers. LWOP is fine with me although I would rather see her sentenced to death.

 

[Becky Sharp]

Hate to admit it, but I'm curious how the DT will try to counter Dr D's testimony. I can only think of two options: 1) they convince JA to listen to their advice and coach her in what genuine remorse entails; 2) they double down on their previous approach--attack, attack, attack. Probably the latter.

 

[Quiet Time]

I just took a quick look over at Jodiland, to see what they are thinking about this testimony. They say the reason she told some shrinks that her family was never abusive nor did drugs was because she was PROTECTIVE of them. :giggle:

They also said that if 'totdoc' keeps saying how secretive JA is, it is going to backfire on Juan. Because surely the jury will figure out that her being secretive means that's why she never told anyone about the horrible abuse she received from her abuser. JodiLand--:no:

Ya, good luck w/that Jodi.