Retrial for Sentencing of Jodi Arias - Day 31

[YESorNO]

Case Documents

Filing Date Description Docket Date Filing Party
2/4/2015 012 - ME: Trial - Party (001) 2/4/2015
2/3/2015 012 - ME: Trial - Party (001) 2/3/2015
2/2/2015 MOT - Motion - Party (001) 2/3/2015
NOTE: Motion to Preclude Testimony of Dr. Janeen DeMarte for Failure to Timely Disclose Report
1/30/2015 MOT - Motion - Party (001) 2/2/2015
NOTE: MOTION TO PRECLUDE TESTIMONY OF MESA PD DET. SMITH FOR FAILURE TO TIMELY DISCLOSE REPORT PRIOR TO TESTIMONY
1/29/2015 029 - ME: Status Conference - Party (001) 1/29/2015
1/29/2015 012 - ME: Trial - Party (001) 1/29/2015
1/28/2015 012 - ME: Trial - Party (001) 1/28/2015
1/27/2015 SDO - Order to Seal Documents - Party (001) 2/4/2015
NOTE: HEARING MINUTE ENTRY DATED 1-27-15 NOT TO BE OPENED WITHOUT FURTHER COURT ORDER...

1/22/2015 SDO - Order to Seal Documents - Party (001) 2/4/2015
NOTE: COPY OF EMAIL CAPTIONED: TIME TO VENT; COPY OF EMAIL DATED 4-19-13

1/22/2015 SDO - Order to Seal Documents - Party (001) 2/4/2015
NOTE: STATEMENT OF DEPUTY COUNTY ATTORNEY ERIC BASTA

http://www.superiorcourt.maricopa.gov/docket/CriminalCourtCases/index.asp

 

[salberg7]

Advil does have blood thinning capabilities, not as much as Warfarin or aspirin, but nonetheless it does. I am a RN, I know this. Besides it doesn't matter, CMJA was too chicken to kill herself. I believe she may commit suicide or try to, down the pike after being in prison for a decade or two, but right now she is in the throws of narcissism and loves herself too much.
Yesterday was a great day for Travis. The conversation with Regan was another strong indicator of CMJA stalking him. As the trial goes on, I can see Juan's strategy - he allowed the DT and their witnesses their time to paint the murderess as a "poor, abused wallflower" as Juan patiently waited until Dr Demarte was called to the stand. Now the good doctor has pretty much debunked the DT. My only concern is there will be one juror that feels sorry for CMJA and will not vote for death due to her BPD. I do hope that juror weighs the fact that this testimony also proves that the killer is dangerous to other people, and has the capacity to kill again. I do not doubt that she would, either. She still feels murdering Travis was justified.
Can you BELIEVE Nurmi had the audacity to object to Demarte's testimony, stating the doctor was committing character assassination on his client? I nearly fainted.

 

[Val1]

I always thought it funny Jodi was 'running' in a rented car. Where was she planning on going? They all have GPS.

Perhaps internal GPS wasn't standard in 2008?

http://murderpedia.org/female.A/images/arias-jodi/jodi-arias-court-docs-2.pdf

Jury questions:
"4) Did you look into the possibility of renting a GPS system along with the rental car?
A: I believe it was offered, they are typically offered when I rent a car, um but it costs more,
and I was trying to save money. "

http://www.realitychatter.com/t4305p450-jodi-arias-trial-for-the-murder-of-travis-alexander-17

"I'm not sure of all the car rental co's, but we have offices for Hertz, & Enterprise in our bldgs. In the newer cars 2011 on for both Co's there is the internal GPS system. Enterprise & Hertz can access the system & see where the car has been."

 

[bsk]

It's odd, isn't it, that no DT "expert" has spoken up for BPD when that is supposed to be a mitigating factor. They all got so busy covering each other's asses with PTSD and DV, they ignored BPD altogether. I don't think either Dr. G or Dr. F were even licensed to give a mental health diagnosis in Arizona, and their agenda was to defend ALV rather than give an expert perspective. All smoke and mirrors.

In addition to that, I think they were in a "whatever DeMarte says is true we have to say is false" mode. That's what'll make today's cross interesting. Today he'll be arguing that totdoc has no idea what she's talking about, then in closing he'll argue that JA's BPD is one of the reasons they should spare her life.

 

[bsk]

The difference between "diagnosis" and "opinion" is irrelevant to this case. They have presented evidence that she has PTSD. The state has presented evidence that she does not have PTSD. Both sides will be permitted to argue this issue in closing.

There are no shades of gray at all for the "age 27" mitigator. She's either 27 or she's not. But for PTSD experts can and very often do disagree.

Your first sentence is what I needed to hear. I thought there must be some significance to it. It is in Juan's interest to imply that there is I suppose, which I think he has done a bit. I know a number of us here have thought the jury should get the message that sheesh - she can't even find someone in the entire state who will diagnose what they are claiming she has.

Otherwise maybe I didn't explain what I was thinking very well. I thought PTSD was black/white because either you are diagnosed or not, but as you pointed out it's not a matter of "diagnosing" per se. The age thing is a shade of gray to me because yes she is 27, but one person will consider that young and another won't. Most of us here would say that is a fairly young age, but in terms of mitigation to me it's more aimed at someone who might do something as a dumb 17yo vs someone who has lived more or less on their own for 10-12 years.

Thanks for clearing up the diagnosis vs opinion question.

 

[bsk]

The one bs story of hers that comes to mind is where she said she gave him oral on her front porch (the house's front porch, that is) and after he zipped up he threw some cash at her and drove off without saying a word to her. I think she said they were playing out one of his fantasies, but it was probably her fantasy. And of course the first two encounters she said they had are also total bs. Not to mention her butt-sex story after being Baptized. She does have quite the imagination.

BBM - Don't forget the Toblerone! Isn't that the fable it goes with?

 

[Val1]

In addition to that, I think they were in a "whatever DeMarte says is true we have to say is false" mode. That's what'll make today's cross interesting. Today he'll be arguing that totdoc has no idea what she's talking about, then in closing he'll argue that JA's BPD is one of the reasons they should spare her life.

I would laugh if it turns out that someone on the DT mistook BPD for BiPolar... I know if one isn't paying attention it's easy enough to mix up some of these acronyms.

 

[Wizzy]

Perhaps internal GPS wasn't standard in 2008?

http://murderpedia.org/female.A/images/arias-jodi/jodi-arias-court-docs-2.pdf

Jury questions:
"4) Did you look into the possibility of renting a GPS system along with the rental car?
A: I believe it was offered, they are typically offered when I rent a car, um but it costs more,
and I was trying to save money. "

http://www.realitychatter.com/t4305p450-jodi-arias-trial-for-the-murder-of-travis-alexander-17

"I'm not sure of all the car rental co's, but we have offices for Hertz, & Enterprise in our bldgs. In the newer cars 2011 on for both Co's there is the internal GPS system. Enterprise & Hertz can access the system & see where the car has been."

I don't know if it is different State to state, but in Texas, GPS isn't standard, yes it cost more to get it. TxTag (tolls) is also a upgrade. This is Hertz I am referring to. It might be different with other companies. I believe Enterprise is the same.

 

[runningwater]

Good Morning:seeya:
I was riveted yesterday...absolutely riveted...
Can't wait for today...
You know what I can't stop thinking of?
Travis's thoughts as she started to kill him...I bet for a few seconds
he could not believe what she was doing, and therefore lost
valuable time to protect himself.
I don't think he had a clue that she would do something
that drastic.
It's hard to believe that he did not sense something
that morning...I dunno,just makes me wonder...

 

[BritsKate]

In addition to that, I think they were in a "whatever DeMarte says is true we have to say is false" mode. That's what'll make today's cross interesting. Today he'll be arguing that totdoc has no idea what she's talking about, then in closing he'll argue that JA's BPD is one of the reasons they should spare her life.

I think he'll exploit BPD to rationalize Jodi's actions but attack DeMarte for a pretend lack of expertise where PTSD and domestic violence are concerned.

 

[bsk]

I don't know if it is different State to state, but in Texas, GPS isn't standard, yes it cost more to get it. TxTag (tolls) is also a upgrade. This is Hertz I am referring to. It might be different with other companies. I believe Enterprise is the same.

This is a little confusing because there are two different things being talked about:
- You can pay extra to rent a car with a GPS system for the driver to use.
- Car companies have a hidden GPS system (like LoJack) so that they can track where their cars are.

 

[Wizzy]

Wonder what is going to happen today, and today of all days real life will keep me from being here for several hours. I have a question. Can the defense now call to testify, the people that were questioned by JD and their information was used in court? Do they have to be on the witness list before hand for any length of time?

 

[Wizzy]

This is a little confusing because there are two different things being talked about:
- You can pay extra to rent a car with a GPS system for the driver to use.
- Car companies have a hidden GPS system (like LoJack) so that they can track where their cars are.

Thanks, I'm sure they have the capability of tracking their vehicles.

 

[Lochlynsmom]

https://www.facebook.com/paul.sanders.921025/posts/899012176810849

Linking for those interested Paul Sanders take from yesterday.

 

[Truth Detector]

"Matt would never betray me".

Of course this case is now pending...

Nah, she cussed him out good in her super-secret Nancy Drew magazine code message.

 

[Val1]

I think he'll exploit BPD to rationalize Jodi's actions but attack DeMarte for a pretend lack of expertise where PTSD and domestic violence are concerned.

BBM - Afaic, it still comes down to the fact that she was already found mentally fit to stand trial, BPD, PTSD, DV, or whatever notwithstanding and was still found guilty and eligible for the DP because of the cruel manner in which she murdered TA.

She did after all plan how to avoid detection while traveling through AZ, even timed it to coincide with a PPL event as well as making a date with a new love interest as her excuse to drive a freaking thousand miles to "have" to pass Mesa, just in case she got caught in AZ. She is still trying to cover up what she did by refusing to "come clean" and accept responsibility for her actions. The DT can cry all they want about how "mentally ill" JA was/is but like KN said during the first trial to JA, she has NO mitigating factors.:moo:

http://www.fox10phoenix.com/story/22222919/2013/05/11/arias-told-fox-10-she-has-no-mitigating-factors

"Jodi: "I would have been happy to be silent and go quietly into the night off to prison. My defense team decided to rip the lid off because we were forced to trial. Um, the state didn't want to settle. It's not that I wanted to plow ahead and do this, I took the stand strategically because they advised me to and I had to answer the questions posed to me.""

"Jodi: "Well I've been told I don't have any mitigating factors."

Troy: "By who?"

Jodi: "My attorney."

Tory: "So Kirk Nurmi said there are no mitigating factors for you in terms of arguing against the death penalty?"

Jodi: "Um nothing that is what you typically see in a case like this, such as a childhood where there was drugs, alcoholism, molestation, none of those things occurred in my family so I guess we would sort of joke that my mom didn't beat me hard enough, so I don't have mitigation.""

http://kristinarandle.com/blog/can-borderline-personality-disorder-spare-jodi-arias-from-the-death-penalty/

"Jodi Arias is mentally competent. There is a big difference between being diagnosed with a mental illness and being mentally incompetent. In other words, mental illnesses vary in severity. Only the most severe, the psychoses, would make one mentally incompetent and thus not qualified for the death penalty."

 

[Val1]

Nah, she cussed him out good in her super-secret Nancy Drew magazine code message.

I'm betting most of those many books she takes out from the library probably contain coded messages for her buddies to smuggle out for her, since they're less likely to be watched as closely as she is.

ie. I hear she used to read the bible voraciously for a time... if you're looking for codes, who's going to link her quoting scriptures to her jailmates or even directly to family/friend/mitigation visitors as a way to send messages. Heck, match the number of the scripture she quotes to a page or predetermined number/letter code, voila!

 

[Val1]

Thanks, I'm sure they have the capability of tracking their vehicles.

My point was that it might not have been standard back in 2008 so there is the chance that the Budget rental JA used for her trip to Mesa and whatever rental it was for her "camping" trip did not yet have the internal gps. I haven't seen any confirmation from any legitimate(evidence) source that there was, just Det.F mentioning something about it during JA's interrogation.

 

[TexMex]

I don't know if it is different State to state, but in Texas, GPS isn't standard, yes it cost more to get it. TxTag (tolls) is also a upgrade. This is Hertz I am referring to. It might be different with other companies. I believe Enterprise is the same.

Flores told her the car had gps during interrogation. Not sure if he was bluffing though

 

[bettybaby00]

https://www.facebook.com/paul.sanders.921025/posts/899012176810849

Linking for those interested Paul Sanders take from yesterday.

This really sums it/her perfectly

The Doctor turned in her chair and faced the jury. “The disorder is all about a fear of abandonment. The traits of this disorder are maladaptive and cause general instability in all of their relationships. They tend to draw people close to them. They demonstrate the odd characteristic of suddenly pushing people away. It is further accentuated by the fact that a person with this disorder has no concept of who they are as individuals. They need their relationships. They demonstrate extremely intrusive behaviors. These behaviors destroy their relationships and its a repeated cycle."