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Solitary confinement is psychological torture. We've long since discovered this with the first experiment of it at the Eastern State Penitentury in Philly. The idea had nothing but good intensions as the belief at the time was that isolation brought a person closer to God and thus would reform the prisoner, but the actuality was an epic disaster. Prisoners went crazy and committed suicide in unbelievable numers. Eventually, Eastern State understood that isolation only made people insane and changed their system to allow prisoners to interact and given more freedom of movement. Eventually, it closed yet still stands today rotting away. Since other countries modeled their prison systems after Eastern State with the same results, they also abandoned solitary confinement as a form of torture that did the opposite of rehabilitating. The US is the only country that has fallen back on the use of solitary confirement when history already has shown the results. Long term solitary confinement creates more dangerous prisoners and makes them insane. There is NO QUESTION that it is cruel and inhumane and that it is psychological torture. We've long since already learned this yet we're doing it again. We invented it, we learned that it made people more dangerous and crazy, yet we've gone back to doing it after everything we learned about it.

I just went to ESP Friday for the first time. It's right in the middle of a residential area! It was spooky. And yes, it was built to be a model for modern prisons but turned out as you described. It was cold and rainy and I was short on time so I didn't get a chance to view as much as I wanted to...want to go back when it's nicer out.
 
Does anyone know what FJA did to be in lock down?

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And she plans to piecemeal is out.

My gut feeling is that if she gets LWOP she will bide her time and wait like the snake that she is until a significant date, say his birthday or the anniversary of his death 10 years from now and hold a press conference to tell what the huge fight was all about.

If she gets death penalty and the death warrant is finally issued, her last words will be a brutal and grisly description of what went on in that bathroom so the family will have that with them forever.

She will leave out a critical element that she knows will haunt forever and then she'll give that prolonged smirk. Then she will be extinguished forever.

That's my jaded cynical belief ... which means it is J. M. O.

I wouldn't believe her even if I elicited an answer after using a cattle prod to obtain it.


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I respectfully disagree. I knew little of Travis way back when this all began. I started following because of Jodi and her being an obvious psychopath in those tv interviews. I was immediately drawn in.
I didn't come to respect and care about Travis and his family until later when I learned more. I learned Travis was truly an innocent. I've rarely followed a case with such a fine upstanding human being like Travis was the victim. No one deserves to be slaughtered the way he was so Travis and his family didn't deserve any of this. But what victim would?
I love the justice system. I wanted to watch justice in action, I want to see Jodi locked away from society forever. I wanted the death penalty because his family does. But.. .. IMO and for me, I have already gotten my wish. She will die in prison one way or the other. I'm good with that.
I grew to really care about the Alexander's and have donated so they can be there everyday to remind jurors who Travis was and witness justice for their brother. IMO they've already received it. They just need to make peace with whatever happens now. IMO


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Is that what Juror 13 meant in his interview with GMA yesterday (w/ 2 other jurors)? He said, one way or another, "she'll be dead anyway, she's dying." I didn't really get what he meant by that...did he mean prison will be so bad that she's gonna feel dead?
 
For those who are interested, this is a great read.

Poor Travis - precisely because he was such a kind and tender hearted person he was easily targeted, manipulated and exploited by Jodi Arias.

Second, while we may never know what really went down on June 4, 2008 we know she knew how to gain access into his home without his permission or even awareness and once inside she knew how to maneuver him into the most vulnerable position before unleashing the full force of her rage.

How a Borderline Personality Disorder Love Relationship Evolves

The Vulnerable Seducer, The Clinger, The Hater.

http://www.bpdfamily.com/bpdresources/nk_a101.htm
 
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Has Troy Hayden released that interview he wasn't sposta release yet? I haven't heard anything about it, I would ask him on twitter but I don't understand how to use it!

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I just went to ESP Friday for the first time. It's right in the middle of a residential area! It was spooky. And yes, it was built to be a model for modern prisons but turned out as you described. It was cold and rainy and I was short on time so I didn't get a chance to view as much as I wanted to...want to go back when it's nicer out.

You can also tour the inside....
Halloween they do a huge haunt. I've never went. I refuse to set foot inside a prison...any prison.. For any reason.

http://www.easternstate.org/mobile/halloween




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