Dr. Blasey met in person with the FBI in SF to report the death threats made on her & on her family. I have not read or heard that Judge K did likewise. I am not saying that if he didn't report them they didn't happen, but I am straightforwardly saying that it has become common place in virtually every forum, online or not, for folks to play politics & defense by accusing other folks of being reponsible for death threats, or to claim to have received death threats when none were ever made or were laughably exaggerated. See, for instance, the claims by Nurmi & Wilmott that they faced death threats when what was said to them amounted to - your client will pay, yada yada . Or Scott Pruitt, who claimed threats to his safety justified armrd guards and private planes and bullet proof desks because once or twice- literally only that- fellow air plane passengers told him he was killing the environment and shame on him. Boo. Hoo.
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Dr. Blasey met in person with the FBI in SF to report the death threats made on her & on her family. I have not read or heard that Judge K did likewise. I am not saying that if he didn't report them they didn't happen, but I am straightforwardly saying that it has become common place in virtually every forum, online or not, for folks to play politics & defense by accusing other folks of being reponsible for death threats, or to claim to have received death threats when none were ever made or were laughably exaggerated. See, for instance, the claims by Nurmi & Wilmott that they faced death threats when what was said to them amounted to - your client will pay, yada yada . Or Scott Pruitt, who claimed threats to his safety justified armrd guards and private planes and bullet proof desks because once or twice- literally only that- fellow air plane passengers told him he was killing the environment and shame on him. Boo. Hoo.
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This may be true. Also, true is that he had references to parties and Renata Alumnus. They were teenagers with the privilege to have monies for substance use and abuse. These kinds of comments are common in yearbooks. The behaviors were also common when you have an adolescent with brains developing and the ability to be on their own with little accountability.
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High might mean ceiling climbing?
Or maybe the party crasher got confused between up and down and thought he was going to the basement to get another keg and accidently went up into the ceiling!
Rameriz will be part of this investigation
Seriously? More of the same old toxic masculinity rape culture. Don't hold men responsible for thier abhorrent behaviour, tell women they should not be out having a good time because our society owes them zero expectation of safety in a world where boys will be boys?
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@jjenny, the discussion leading up to your question was not, in fact, whether the yearbook was or wasn't online. It was regarding the perceived value and source of reporting about Ford's yearbook.
Your questions are on point! I enjoy your posts.
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What truly matters is that it's factual.
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Thanks for a segue into what I find quite amusing in this otherwise serious discussion. Why the focus on someone's high school yearbook? How significant is one's high school yearbook in the grand scheme of life?
I spent 12 years in a small parochial school. There were 72 students in my graduating class of 1968. I only purchased the yearbook my senior year because seniors were prominently featured in settings beyond sports or cheerleading. I was also recruited for the yearbook staff senior year, so the annual provided a sample of my writing. I didn't participate in sports or cheerleading, so the only photos of me in 9th, 10th, and 11th grade were thumbnails of annual school picture and a group photo of Future Teachers Club. I kept the yearbook for many years but finally tossed it when moving into current home. High school was a very long time ago and certainly didn't define my life. I don't understand the focus or significance of high school yearbooks of BK or CB-F.
He has always been a bad candidate.
Feingold questioned Kavanaugh, who had played a critical role in advancing the Bush administration’s judicial nominations, about his handling of the controversial nomination of Charles Pickering Sr. to serve on the Fifth Circuit. Kavanaugh feigned ignorance, claiming that “This was not one of the judicial nominees that I was primarily handling.”
In fact, as Feingold notes in a Huffington Post essay, “newly released emails show that Kavanaugh appeared to be the primary person handling Pickering’s nomination, at least by 2003, and was heavily involved in pushing for his confirmation as early as March 2002.
Allegations Against Kavanaugh Must Be Investigated, as Must His Lies Under Oath
The focus on BK's yearbook became important because he LIED about what was in it. He lied about Renate Alumnus, Boof and Devils Triangle and everyone knows it. He is a compulsive liar and does not belong on the Supreme Court. Lying about a situation has gotten more polititians into trouble than what they were lying about. cough <Clinton> cough
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Jesuit order's America magazine urges withdrawal of Kavanaugh nomination
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Jesuit order's America magazine urges withdrawal of Kavanaugh nomination
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I posted links to media reports about the Jesuit magazine yesterday. I've also read several reports about Yale reaction to Kavanaugh's nomination, as well as the American Bar Association.
Yale Law School dean says Brett Kavanaugh should be investigated over sexual assault allegations
American Bar Association Said FBI Investigation Should Come Before A Kavanaugh Vote
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FBI investigation.
Even if the FBI can establish a specific date & time & place for the gathering at
which B says she was attacked, it will inevitably come to whether anyone was aware of/saw/knew/was told of the attack.
1. She says she didn't tell anyone about it at the time or for long after she was out of HS.
2. If her close girl friend who was there didn't know/wasn't aware of what happened, there is no reason to expect FBI prompting & investigation will result in other named party goers who were downstairs remembering more, especially if the sight of Judge & K drunk & laughing & bouncing off the walls was commonplace.
3. The one alleged witness in the room is Mark Judge, and imo it is fairly certain that he will continue to say he has no memory of that night, and more, that he has a reason for not remembering in any case, which is that by his own admission, he was a black out drunk at that time and for years beyond. No direct answers there.
Then what? I think the next logical avenue is for the FBI to pursue the possibility that K did assault her, but that he did not remember doing so, perhaps still doesn't, but also knows he is vulnerable to it being proven that he in fact often enough DID drink to excess, enough & often enough to make it plausible both he & she are telling the truth. He did, but he doesn't remember.
Unfortunately for K, there are plenty of folks who knew him in both HS and college who could tell the FBI he did indeed drink to excess.
K boxed himself in years ago by stating under oath that he never drank to excess (and would have had to lied about that to the FBI on background checks as well). He cornered himself still further by stating there was no possibility that her story could be true in any way because he had never had so much to drink that he would have acted that way or not remembered afterwards.
The FBI could thus theoretically present info to the Senate Judiciary Committe that Senators could interpret as evidence that K had perjured himself about his drinking.
Would that be enough to have his nomination withdrawn or voted down? Ummm. Imo, no matter the obvious unacceptablity of a SC nominee perjuring himself. ..I'd bet no.
Even if the FBI can establish a specific date & time & place for the gathering at
which B says she was attacked, it will inevitably come to whether anyone was aware of/saw/knew/was told of the attack.
1. She says she didn't tell anyone about it at the time or for long after she was out of HS.
2. If her close girl friend who was there didn't know/wasn't aware of what happened, there is no reason to expect FBI prompting & investigation will result in other named party goers who were downstairs remembering more, especially if the sight of Judge & K drunk & laughing & bouncing off the walls was commonplace.
3. The one alleged witness in the room is Mark Judge, and imo it is fairly certain that he will continue to say he has no memory of that night, and more, that he has a reason for not remembering in any case, which is that by his own admission, he was a black out drunk at that time and for years beyond. No direct answers there.
Then what? I think the next logical avenue is for the FBI to pursue the possibility that K did assault her, but that he did not remember doing so, perhaps still doesn't, but also knows he is vulnerable to it being proven that he in fact often enough DID drink to excess, enough & often enough to make it plausible both he & she are telling the truth. He did, but he doesn't remember.
Unfortunately for K, there are plenty of folks who knew him in both HS and college who could tell the FBI he did indeed drink to excess.
K boxed himself in years ago by stating under oath that he never drank to excess (and would have had to lied about that to the FBI on background checks as well). He cornered himself still further by stating there was no possibility that her story could be true in any way because he had never had so much to drink that he would have acted that way or not remembered afterwards.
The FBI could thus theoretically present info to the Senate Judiciary Committe that Senators could interpret as evidence that K had perjured himself about his drinking.
Would that be enough to have his nomination withdrawn or voted down? Ummm. Imo, no matter the obvious unacceptablity of a SC nominee perjuring himself. ..I'd bet no.
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Alcoholism is a progressive disease. "Functional alcoholic" is only temporary. It may be a lengthy period of time that someone appears functiinal, but it always progresses. I don't know if BK is currently an alcoholic, but I have zero doubt in my mind that he hasn't come to terms with, nor is he being honest with himself, let alone anyone else, about his excessive drinking habits.
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i think we are thinking all background checks are similar
i think there might be a different test for a lower level judge that the SC
etc etc
all behavior has meaning hiding 100 , 000 documents - they were not recipes
I think a lot of that ( like the affirmative action/ hawaiian)is gonna be about racist homophobic anti semitic immigration disgusting stuff
I do think we should be a little less surprised by this disgusting event
if no one cares if someone grabs things then why would think a failed rape is all that big a deal
i think the nation is just exhausted the past year
Folks IMO need to mindful of what might be ahead - and I am telling ya ll ( I cant do tucker or hannity) but it is very "cautionary" tales --but seriously you need to have Fox on in the background like once every 24 hours -- daypart shows are easier to handle- but I am very serious here
it is actually like a thermometer - you can tell the "temperature " -- this week very important to do so imo
its scary but needs to be endured -- if your not retired and can only do prime time that blond haired (pretty) Not that Ingram one -- later is sane
just once every 24 hours and you don't need to do it for long
pay attn for what they are doing in the first 15 minute segments at the top of any hour
all moo
like last week there some other big deal and they were doing (in C segment) if some simpson characters are gay!!!
if you cant endure listening keep a window open and just check out the title cards on the bottom from time to time
Trump supporters should be doing the same imo -- rachel maddow (msnbc)is the best imo
this viewpoint is obviously only my opinion --although scary it is also amazing!
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Hahahahahahaaa! I appreciate the visual and your sense of humor, @CARIIS. This is a serious topic, and it can be good for us to share a fleeting moment of humor together.
You make some extremely valid points, BDE. Thank you for this thoughtful post.
Overall, I agree with you.
I think there’s more value placed on Kavanaugh’s yearbook in this instance (and, to a lesser degree, Ford’s and others’ they both went to school with), because it gives context to and “informs,” per se, the culture, attitudes and behaviors during the time in question.
Like Kavanaugh’s much maligned flip calendar from the period, it’s one of a very limited number of “documents” available from that period.
So both take on a seemingly inordinate amount of weight since they’re almost all we (meaning the public) have to quasi validate or invalidate the alleged victim’s testimony.
All MOO, of course.
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The 4 Stages Of Alcoholism For The Functioning Alcoholic
The term “functioning alcoholic” is generally used to avoid labeling someone as a stereotypical alcoholic. Alcohol is one of the most commonly abused substances and often has specific stereotypes linked to abuse of it.
When picturing someone struggling with alcohol addiction, it is common to imagine a disheveled, homeless person, or someone who has lost their home, family and other possessions due to their alcohol abuse. These stereotypes are only the end result of a much longer process, and they can mislead functioning alcoholics because their lives have yet to fit these stereotypes.
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Signs Of A Functioning Alcoholic
If alcohol abuse is suspected, there are a few signs that can indicate there is a problem.
Possible signs of a functioning alcoholic may include:
- if a person drinks alcohol to replace eating food.
- angry or defensive reactions when someone brings up the possibility of alcoholism.
- not being able to remember what happened while under the influence of alcohol.
- setting drinking limits and failing to stick to them.
- participating in “pre-drinking” before an evening out.
- attempting to hide drinking from others.
- drinking in the morning, throughout the day or while alone.
- joking about the possibility of being an alcoholic.
Stage #1: Occasional Alcohol Abuse And Binge Drinking
The first stage of alcoholism is a general experimentation with the substance. Individuals in this stage may not be familiar with different types of alcohol, so they are more likely to test their limits.
This stage of alcoholism is often defined by the goal of “drinking to get drunk.” People who abuse alcohol often use it to self-medicate and escape negative thoughts and feelings. This is how problem drinking starts.
Usually, people in the first stage of alcoholism are not drinking every day, and they are still able to perform daily activities. Although drinking may not consume their thoughts, they may need to drink more to reach the desired level of intoxication.
During this stage, someone may believe they are still functioning because they have a job and they are successfully maintaining relationships. In reality, this isn’t true, because after they consume their first alcoholic drink, they usually struggle to control their drinking.
Stage #2: Increased Drinking As A Coping Mechanism
The second stage of alcoholism is defined by the mental obsession with the next drink. Many people consume alcohol in order to relax and unwind. But, those struggling with alcohol abuse may see drinking as the only way to relieve stress.
Over time, other coping skills will fade away and all negative thoughts and feelings will be addressed by drinking alcohol. At this point, people may not be physically addicted to alcohol, but they may be psychologically dependent on it.
During this stage, outward appearances don’t change much, but individuals may be routinely hungover. This is often justified by saying they just like to “cut loose and party.”
Stage #3: The Consequences Of Problem Drinking Start To Show
The third stage of alcoholism is usually identified when others begin to show concern for someone’s drinking habits. For those struggling with alcohol abuse, stage three is all about managing the consequences of their drinking.
Individuals in this stage of alcoholism may try to set boundaries for themselves, but they will be unable to stick to them. Possible boundaries can include telling themselves, or someone else, they will only have a certain number of drinks and then stop, or they will drink only beer instead of hard liquor.
During this stage, individuals may feel like they are a “functioning alcoholic,” despite all the changes alcohol has caused them to make in their lives. These changes may include a new group of friends or frequently changing jobs.
At this point, an individual’s life is centered around managing the consequences of their alcohol abuse. People may continue to compare themselves to the stereotypical alcoholics who have lost it all and assure themselves that is not who they are.
This is scientific stuff there is not a 10% thing -- its out there in the addiction literature
The 4 Stages of Alcoholism for the Functioning Alcoholic
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