I agree with you except he could have stopped the sex at least 7 months before when she moved if not before and the excuse he's a man doesn't fly with me.
Can you please tell me how you insert the You Tube video like that?
No I think Straitfan is referring to Jodi testifying that he was watching youtube when she got there and they went to sleep until 1pm the 4th.
It is clear she arrived there at approx. 4am.
Can you please tell me how you insert the You Tube video like that?
Is it?
I just copy / paste the URL into the copy and it pops up like that .. I have no idea why it works for some people and not others, except it didn't work for me like that when I first started posting here, and then it did ... :waitasec:
An order of protection does squat...especially if the stalker lives out of State. Trust me, I know. It didn't prevent mine from doing many hateful things to hurt me. I was lucky that I had an entire country separating my stalker/sociopath. Was I still scared. Absolutely! I don't think this is about Travis not trying hard enough (because he liked having sex with this sociopath)...IMO, that's victimizing Travis all over again.
I know nearly nothing about Mormonism except what I've seen on South Park, some vague memories from the early 90's when some missionaries visited me and my flatmate so that she could run rings around their logic until they gave up and went away, and this ...
The Osmonds - Love Me For A Reason - YouTube
However, I didn't see the point of the religious questioning at all, because I think it's fairly obvious that Jodi's conversion was just a load of BS. Mormonism might have been relevant to Travis, but not to Jodi IMO.
This makes sense to me as well. Mr Martinez has to juggle facts all over the place to keep her off balance, meanwhile keeping it all organised in his mind, his script and his strategy. He has to finesse her. It's like the most delicate and complicated dance. It takes one hell of a nimble mind! The usual, in her case, does not apply. I think he's a genius at it in consideration of her extreme pathology. His aim is true, always.
I find him effective and that's all that matters. It really doesn't matter how he gets there. He exposes her to the jury. Just remarkable.
Most people know I'm active in a support group helping people keep their families together after leaving Mormonism. So I have experienced personally and heard stories about the underbelly of the Mormon Church.
Frankly, whatever religion or ideology it was that had conventions in Las Vegas and Oklahoma with wild parties (remember that digusting smile on Gus when he talked about the parties?) where Jodi could meet rich, naive men, THAT would have been her religion of choice. Her history shows her switching to match the man she's after. She is a sexual predator and if she has to say she believes in Scientology, or Heaven's Gate, she will pretend to be that.
She only stayed with Mormonism so she could crawl along her web to the next man she had bundled, ready to suck his life out. This Black Widow was going merrily along moving up her PPL web to the next victim struggling in her web, Ryan B. She would not have stayed Mormon without PPL.
Remember the activities the Mormon Singles did? We watch movies. We bake cookies. We hang out. We go to Chili's. No alcohol, no fancy coffee drinks, no sex. I don't think so.
Sometimes things such as pieces of paper, changing locks, or whatever DON'T stop everyone. It's hard to say now if any of that would have stopped her, but she is the type of crazy that I wouldn't be surprised if it hadn't. Without hardcore proof, LE won't take much action on stalking either. Calling 911 wouldn't have helped. What proof did he have to show LE? Pictures? A log? A paper trail? Recordings? Probably not. They couldn't just take him at his word without proof, and without that stuff LE couldn't have done much. He also had NO clue what kind of crazy she was and figured he could handle it.
Many women have found themselves in the same situation as well....yet many people don't blame women victims for a crime like this-I guess men are maybe stereotypically supposed to be less easy to manipulate and they are supposed to be able to be more aggressive and to nip things in the bud without any trouble and the female in question is supposed to go away meekly. Sociopathic/psychopathic stalkers of any gender don't work like that, and unless someone has actually dealt with it for themselves no one has any idea what it is like to deal with a person like this.
OMG!! Love the video. I was supposed to marry Jay!!
It's not really the same mindset when SHE offered herself to him. See the difference? It was probably her idea to seduce him and take his virginity. They didn't even become a couple until 5 months after they met. But careless, I can agree with. That and not realizing sooner his life was at risk.
He became concerned, he became upset, he worried about an "axe murderer" in his final blog. But he was too nice a guy who saw the good in others. He didn't file police reports, get restraining orders, lock his doors, or hire more security. And in hindsight, most of us can agree it's best not to insult nutjobs, which only inflames their anger.
I hope Travis' own words will be used in closing arguments, so that Travis and his family will finally see justice, and he will have the last word.
Most people know I'm active in a support group helping people keep their families together after leaving Mormonism. So I have experienced personally and heard stories about the underbelly of the Mormon Church.
Frankly, whatever religion or ideology it was that had conventions in Las Vegas and Oklahoma with wild parties (remember that digusting smile on Gus when he talked about the parties?) where Jodi could meet rich, naive men, THAT would have been her religion of choice. Her history shows her switching to match the man she's after. She is a sexual predator and if she has to say she believes in Scientology, or Heaven's Gate, she will pretend to be that.
She only stayed with Mormonism so she could crawl along her web to the next man she had bundled, ready to suck his life out. This Black Widow was going merrily along moving up her PPL web to the next victim struggling in her web, Ryan B. She would not have stayed Mormon without PPL.
Remember the activities the Mormon Singles did? We watch movies. We bake cookies. We hang out. We go to Chili's. No alcohol, no fancy coffee drinks, no sex. I don't think so.
Not sure regarding Martinez having any DV experts scheduled to testify, however, why should he? He is totally going to disseminate whoever the defense calls. There is absolutely no self-defense, and no abuse.
No comparison to the other case you mentioned. We all know how Travis died and who killed him.
MOO
I love the Psychologist Nancy Grace just had on, and did not catch her name?
Anyone? A lady blonde hair.
There's a simple answer for why Travis kept having sex with Jodi.
He liked it.
Actually what I said was "lets not go into detail", but the point being yes I too believe consensual sex took place on 06/04.
My bigger point is this:
On the 4th I think she waited until the roommate left about 1130 and came to the door. I think she talked her way into the house. To JA I believe it was pivotal to get him to bed and then into that shower. Thus the sex pics with his new camera and then the CK photo shoot. TA wouldn't be suspicious, JA was always taking pics including his facebook shot. Plus the shots were with HIS camera and wouldn't be in her possession. The roommate returns between 3 and 4pm and then leaves never realizing JA is in the house. I believe the other roommate was scheduled to return at 6 or 6:30pm which she may or may not have known. The shower is important to minimize the cleanup. The attack I believe started in the shower or as he was getting up or out. Personally I think it was the knife first (quieter). The ME believed if either the gun shot or throat cutting had occurred first, TA wouldn't have the defensive cuts on hands because he wouldn't have been able to raise his arms. He did say with the most severe stab wound (the one severing the vena cava) he would be able to defend himself and move around for several minutes. I don't think she expected him to leave that shower, but he did explaining the remaining wounds.
Her perfect murder fell apart. She was rapidly running out of time before someone came home and the mistakes started piling up.