AMBER ALERT TN - Summer Moon-Utah Wells, 5, Rogersville, 15 Jun 2021 #29

[10ofRods]

Prank call or witness intimidation?

Can be both, IMO. Plus other intentions at the same time. Pranks are by their very nature somewhat mean. Everyone who is in the prank thinks it's funny (in theory) but in some parts, pranks have turned into bully, or even deadly events.

 

[k-mac]

I keep thinking about the three brothers, J, W and W. It must be heartbreaking for them to not know what happened to their little sister Summer. Then they are taken from their parents.

How much do they tell children in this type of situation? Are they basically left in the dark?

Do they have access to computers and perhaps google to try and find out information? Do they constantly ask when they can go home?

It might not have been a perfect home but it was all that they knew. They seemed to have a lot of freedom on the acreage and seemed happy there. MOO

Today my prayers go to these three little guys and I hope they are in a good home.

As always, prayers for Summer.

Yes these little guys have been through plenty.

In the bigger picture though IMO they are more than likely thriving.

moo

 

[Spartygirl]

I am still on the hunt for "wrecked my shed". But, i rewatched both of CM'S interviews of CB and it's not in those. Idk. Will post if found.

I think it was posted a few pages back for you.
I thought I saw 2 posters share it.

I can't find it now but it was just a few pages back.

 

[nyvictoria]

yes
Nothing to record if your watching your p's and q's and quietly going about your business.

It's really that simple.


moo

Exactly. They could be out looking for their missing child. That would be a constructive use of their time. DW is apparently more concerned with trashing his victims and CBW is going right along with him. It’s a good thing M recorded that call or DW would be all over YouTube calling her a liar.

 

[Tiff23fr]

There's just something about that shed!

I would hope/assume the family has offered the names of anyone who may have come by and possibly stayed down there at some point. Even if just for a few nights.


A few observations related to that area of the property when looking at the Google Earth street view. This is assuming the environment was the same in June.

Note: The items below don’t appear in the overhead view, they are only visible on street view. So was it “fixed up” for someone to stay down there?

-A gate (was the gate opened or closed when DW drove past the shed and toward the creek when he first arrived)
-Power pole - it looks like it may go to the small camper (had someone recently stayed in it)
-There was a dog in that pen on the date GoogleEarth took the photo. Did this dog belong to someone staying down there?

(The file image was too large for me to upload, so you will need to look it up on google earth)

 

[Ravenmoon]

Yes these little guys have been through plenty.

In the bigger picture though IMO they are more than likely thriving.

moo

I hope you are right.
I hope they are thriving.
Unfortunately, the foster system is full of predators itself.
Not saying the boys are in that situation, but there are a lot of people who take in kids for money and control.
Let's hope that they are together and in a loving environment.
The goal is reuniting them with their biological family.
I hope the entire family gets the help they all need.

AMOO JMO MOO

 

[mooseandcoffee]

Maybe, but what about the three little boys that you love with all your heart and who rely on you to take care of them? They must be suffering greatly from the loss of their sister.

Surely those three boys would be the motivation a parent needs to carry on. If not for them then when?
IMO

We still do not know why the boys were taken out of the home.

Were the parents not continuing to carry on when the boys were still at home?

 

[k-mac]

I hope you are right.
I hope they are thriving.
Unfortunately, the foster system is full of predators itself.
Not saying the boys are in that situation, but there are a lot of people who take in kids for money and control.
Let's hope that they are together and in a loving environment.
The goal is reuniting them with their biological family.
I hope the entire family gets the help they all need.

AMOO JMO MOO

Yes unfortunately there are predators everywhere.

But its not really accurate to say the foster system is full of predators itself.

There are never enough but lets not dizz the volumous amount of incredible people who take in kids whom have all sorts of history and baggage and welcome them with open arms.

Shout out to all the beautiful foster carers out there...stepping up and doing the heavy lifting for the greater good of children everywhere *advertiser censored*

moo

 

[kshultz06082]

Yes, LE has said that nothing is off the table, so almost any scenario is possible. I wish they would give us some idea of how the investigation is going and whether or not they have any leads. It must be very frustrating for them. I haven't heard that they've carried out any search warrants, although I would assume they had one for the cell phone, GPS and computer data. Imo

As of the June 24th press conference, Sheriff Lawson had stated no search warrants had been issued. I'm 1000% sure by now that has most likely changed, but I believe that was the only time search warrants were spoken about.

 

[Tiff23fr]

Mod Note:

Please be sure your posts in this thread are about Summer and circumstances surrounding her disappearance. The following discussion is off topic to Summer’s disappearance but may be discussed in the other thread:

-when phone calls were made between DW/Mary/CM, etc.
-who gave family members advice, etc.
-status, or current actions specific to out of state family members regarding the SA reporting

 

[Allabouttrial]

We still do not know why the boys were taken out of the home.

Were the parents not continuing to carry on when the boys were still at home?

You're correct, we don't know.

For one reason or another, the home wasn't a safe place for the boys. Could it be for their own protection against the social media backlash aimed towards DW and CW? Possibly, but if that was the case then why not send them to live temporarily with other family members?

Why add even more emotional distress by placing them in the foster care system? Surely that's the last thing CPS would want to do?

To warrant their removal I think they must have serious concerns for their wellbeing.

 

[Unalienable Rights]

I would hope/assume the family has offered the names of anyone who may have come by and possibly stayed down there at some point. Even if just for a few nights.


A few observations related to that area of the property when looking at the Google Earth street view. This is assuming the environment was the same in June.

Note: The items below don’t appear in the overhead view, they are only visible on street view. So was it “fixed up” for someone to stay down there?

-A gate (was the gate opened or closed when DW drove past the shed and toward the creek when he first arrived)
-Power pole - it looks like it may go to the small camper (had someone recently stayed in it)
-There was a dog in that pen on the date GoogleEarth took the photo. Did this dog belong to someone staying down there?

(The file image was too large for me to upload, so you will need to look it up on google earth)

Tiff: There are two new videos that show never before filmed trails in and out of the Wells property. One is of a trail from the house to the shed (not the dog trail) which was normally used by the boys to go to the creek -- there is a small clearing along the way where toys are strewn. This trail leads directly to the shed. Another video is of a trail that begins at the school bus and ends at the driveway.

How can I send you the links directly to ask for approval to post the links? (I've been searching for hours to try to find out how to contact a mod directly)

 

[Tiff23fr]

Tiff: There are two new videos that show never before filmed trails in and out of the Wells property. One is of a trail from the house to the shed (not the dog trail) which was normally used by the boys to go to the creek -- there is a small clearing along the way where toys are strewn. This trail leads directly to the shed. Another video is of a trail that begins at the school bus and ends at the driveway.

How can I send you the links directly to ask for approval to post the links? (I've been searching for hours to try to find out how to contact a mod directly)

Any time a Poster has questions, they can use the “Report” link at the bottom of any post to reach a mod or admin (this goes into the que and is addressed when one of us are online) or you can send a PM to a mod or admin. Since we are not all online everyday or at the same time, the quickest response is typically via using the “Report” link.

 

[Ravenmoon]

Yes unfortunately there are predators everywhere.

But its not really accurate to say the foster system is full of predators itself.

There are never enough but lets not dizz the volumous amount of incredible people who take in kids whom have all sorts of history and baggage and welcome them with open arms.

Shout out to all the beautiful foster carers out there...stepping up and doing the heavy lifting for the greater good of children everywhere *advertiser censored*

moo

My post was not in any way written with intentions of disparaging any foster family that is good.

My hope is that the boys are dealing with their situation well and that the entire family gets the help that they need.

JMO MOO AMOO

 

[kshultz06082]

You're correct, we don't know.

For one reason or another, the home wasn't a safe place for the boys. Could it be for their own protection against the social media backlash aimed towards DW and CW? Possibly, but if that was the case then why not send them to live temporarily with other family members?

Why add even more emotional distress by placing them in the foster care system? Surely that's the last thing CPS would want to do?

To warrant their removal I think they must have serious concerns for their wellbeing.

Don said that he was drinking and stuff when asked why the boys were removed.

“He did tell me regarding the boys being taken away that it was due to him having an episode of drinking and there’s other things swirling around the internet that it could be the home life or what’s going on right now in Summer’s case,” Youngblood said.

Father of Summer Wells says other children have been removed from family home | WHNT.com

Eta: Another link

Summer Wells’ Brothers Removed From Home – 92.3 WNPC

 

[December]

I think it was posted a few pages back for you.
I thought I saw 2 posters share it.

I can't find it now but it was just a few pages back.

I saw it. It's from an article in the Rogersville News. But, in that it sounds more like the TBI broke into the shed and in doing so "destroyed it". It's hard to say. Maybe i should watch DW's tour of sheds; i would imagine he at least shows it.

I had linked it some pages before Allaboutatrial's link because Tealgrove wanted to read the article or watch the video with "wrecked" shed. I had started talking about that from memory... And so, this article is the best two people can do so far.

I had remembered a video where CB says the TBI "wrecked" her shed. However, I haven't been able to find a video reference as of yet. I have not watched too many videos, actually. I rewatched CB's interviews with CM, but that quote isn't part of those.

The article in the Rogersville News is her complaining about how much the TBI searched all over Wells' property, some places repeatedly, some places she felt too small to contain SW, and the poor old shed.

Meanwhile, neighbors have barns and such she thinks need to be checked. Or many other places neighbors have. She did accuse neighbors of not allowing searches in the article.

She also complained LE wasn't telling her anything. So, idk how she knew if they'd checked all these barns or not.

In Dickson County they (the TBI) full on drained ponds. They are not slackers when they go out looking for children. Don't have sheds if you don't want them looking for your missing child in those sheds.

 

[Tealgrove]

I

Yes these little guys have been through plenty.

In the bigger picture though IMO they are more than likely thriving.

moo

I certainly hope so.

 

[mooseandcoffee]

My post was not in any way written with intentions of disparaging any foster family that is good.

My hope is that the boys are dealing with their situation well and that the entire family gets the help that they need.

JMO MOO AMOO

I didn’t take your original post to critique good foster homes. Saying that some are problematic does not mean that all of them are.

 

[Ravenmoon]

I didn’t take your original post to critique good foster homes. Saying that some are problematic does not mean that all of them are.

Thank you.
I know that there are very good people that take in kids with a lot of problems.
Many people that grew up in the system were less than fond of their experience.
Of course, there are the lucky ones that had amazing experiences.
Children want to be loved by their parents.
The foster system was designed to allow families to heal and to learn how to operate as a healthy unit.
I am praying that each person affected heals.

AMOO JMO MOO

 

[k-mac]

My post was not in any way written with intentions of disparaging any foster family that is good.

My hope is that the boys are dealing with their situation well and that the entire family gets the help that they need.

JMO MOO AMOO

We all share your hope Raven!

IMO the boys will be in the care of 'special' foster carers in their circumstance.