Travis Alexander and Jodi Arias - What do you believe?

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http://www.courtminutes.maricopa.gov/docs/Criminal/082009/m3843543.pdf
Withdrawal of Counsel; The Court has reviewed Counsel's Motion to Withdraw. The Court finds there is sufficient cause to allow the Attorney's from ...
So now the Court orders new Counsel to be appointed, pretty straightforward stuff. Maria Schaffer had some sort of conflict/issue with representing Jodi, she asked to be able to withdraw from representing her. Think we all can guess at what her reasons may have been, the fact that the Court ordered new Counsel is just part of the process/record, nothing odd about that.

http://www.courtminutes.maricopa.gov/docs/Criminal/082009/m3857149.pdf
We have already been over this one ... Ruling on Request for Determination of Probable Cause on Alleged Aggravating Factor.


http://www.courtminutes.maricopa.gov/docs/Criminal/082009/m3846408.pdf
Reflects appointment of new Counsel. Also more of the Ruling on Alleged Aggravating Factors. I am surprised though at the appointment of Ms. Washington (I assume she is lead defense attorney as her name is stated first), I really thought new lead Counsel would be a male.

http://www.pubdef.maricopa.gov/docs/2006/200604-ftd.pdf
See article on page 3 written by Ms. Washington.
 
http://www.courtminutes.maricopa.gov/docs/Criminal/082009/m3843543.pdf
Withdrawal of Counsel; The Court has reviewed Counsel's Motion to Withdraw. The Court finds there is sufficient cause to allow the Attorney's from ...
So now the Court orders new Counsel to be appointed, pretty straightforward stuff. Maria Schaffer had some sort of conflict/issue with representing Jodi, she asked to be able to withdraw from representing her. Think we all can guess at what her reasons may have been, the fact that the Court ordered new Counsel is just part of the process/record, nothing odd about that.

http://www.courtminutes.maricopa.gov/docs/Criminal/082009/m3857149.pdf
We have already been over this one ... Ruling on Request for Determination of Probable Cause on Alleged Aggravating Factor.


http://www.courtminutes.maricopa.gov/docs/Criminal/082009/m3846408.pdf
Reflects appointment of new Counsel. Also more of the Ruling on Alleged Aggravating Factors. I am surprised though at the appointment of Ms. Washington (I assume she is lead defense attorney as her name is stated first), I really thought new lead Counsel would be a male.

http://www.pubdef.maricopa.gov/docs/2006/200604-ftd.pdf
See article on page 3 written by Ms. Washington.


Thank you Knox,

I completely forgot about the motion from counsel to withdraw! DUH!!! LOL
 
Watched the raw video interview on azfamily.com link you provided nobodyzgirl. Came away with some new perspectives;
  • Travis did not have a public relationship with Jodi, nor did he want one. They traveled out of town or were together at his home. Jodi made a comment about Travis' friends, a reporter asked her, did his friends not like you? " Ummm I think it was more that they were concerned about his future, marriage and how important marriage was to his spiritual development". Travis minimized his involvement with Jodi to his friends; She's not wife material, I'm just having fun, friends with benefits, I'd never be serious with her. Jodi probably realized this, hence the conversion to Morman religion. She felt this would make her wife material, a good girl, respectable, acceptable to those he would not take her around.
  • When asked why they broke up and became just friends, she stated "there was a breach of trust on both our parts". After that they did not date per say, just hung out. It was hard to fully move on because they spent too much time together. Was there jealousy after that. Not on her part, she states "jealously no, insecurity yes". Travis was sometime jealous of her though and she took it as a compliment.
  • She was asked if Travis was an uplifting person to be around? " Yes, he was very uplifting, he knew every one of my buttons, he could bring me up or down at the drop of a hat". I thought this was interesting insight and was very suprised she stated those words on camera. I think he did push the wrong button and LE will use those words against her at trial. I still think taking another girl on that cruise played a part in all this. She came down to AZ with the thought that he would change his mind and take her instead.
  • She was asked about the nude photos and went into a little detail about taking them in "private". Shots were taken not just with a camera, but other media was used (took that to mean video's). She said "we deleted them when we were done using them". Huh? Using them for what?
  • Lastly she was asked if she were afraid of Travis a couple of times and said "Ummm I'll pass on that question". Did he ever threaten to harm you? Same answer. It crossed my mind that he may have threatened her ... if she did not leave him alone!

Knox posted this weeks several weeks ago, but I finally found the time to watch the TV3 interview (which was conducted two weeks before Jodi remembered the Ninjas) and listen to the touching phone interview with Travis's younger brother. I think that Knox's observations are laser sharp, so I'm reprinting them above. I jotted these comments about the video interview:

  • The interview was well-moderated. The interviewers opened with softball questioning, eliciting upbeat remarks from Jodi that put her ease. It was only towards the very end of the interview that they confronted her with the bloody palm print.
  • Given the circumstances, Jodi handled herself extremely well. She presented herself as a soft-spoken, intelligent, articulate woman who delivering her talking points with a winning humanity. She soft-pedaled the seriousness of her relationship, never saying that she was in love or jealous and never mentioning the word “sex.” Her sidestep to inquiries about the photographs was savvy. She responded as if the pictures recovered in the camera were significant because they’re sexy, never indicating that their time stamps establish her presence at the murder scene.
  • All that said, giving the interview was a colossal mistake. At this point, Jodi hadn’t fully decided on an explanation for her crime scene. She seems to be vacillating among three options: A self-defense story (this would explain her thrice-repeated “I’ll pass on that” to questions about him threatening or abusing her and her comments about his fitness); the Ninja story she would later adopt (suggested by her allusion to one or more assailants); and a forensics defense, perhaps imagining implausibly that the bloody palm print and the mixed DNA of his blood and her blood could be explained away by defense experts.
  • The only part of the video that I had to replay with the sound heightened was Jodi’s answer (“early June”) to the seemingly minor question of when she last saw Travis. In a previous televised interview, she had placed this final encounter in April. The interview with Travis’s brother indicated the possible reason for her sudden small voice: At the time of the first interview, Jodi didn’t realize that she had to establish a June alibi.
  • In the last thirty seconds of the twenty-five minute interview, the question about her DNA being found at the crime scene effectively demolished whatever effectiveness Jodi had previously established, even though the interviewer never specified the bloody palm print connection.
  • It's struck me that Jodi must have been driving her previous lawyer crazy with her multiple TV and print interviews. There are at least three TV interviews and a few newspaper phone interviews.

 
I've been wondering if the videotapes of Jodi's contradictory television interviews could be used in this Arizona criminal case. Apparently, they can. I've added a link to a previous Arizona court ruling on exactly this matter. This prospect makes all the more likely that the defense will accede to Jodi's apparent eagerness to testify. In effect, Jodi has already thrown herself onto the stand. All the defense can do is to put her on the stand to correct some of damage.


http://www.superiorcourt.maricopa.g...ases/Rulings/rulingsReaditem.asp?autonumb=289

The Court has reviewed the pleading filed, considered the evidence presented and has weighed the credibility of the witnesses who testified. Based on the pleadings and the evidence presented in Court,

THE COURT FINDS the Defendant has failed to produce sufficient facts to support the Defendant’s Motion to Suppress “Press Conference” Statements.
A person in police custody who knowingly and voluntarily assents to a press interview cannot invoke his Miranda rights in order to suppress statements made during the press interviews unless evidence shows compelling influences forced him to be interviewed. Ritchie v. State, 875 N.E.2d 706 (Ind. 2007). See also Roberson v. State, 265 Ga. 658 (1995).
Although the police may set up and allow for a press interview, the questioning of the media does not constitute police action. In Ritchie v. State, local press requested an interview with the Defendant, who was in police custody. 875 N.E.2d at 716. The Defendant consented to the interview, signed an “Interview Release” form and did not ask for a lawyer. Id. When the State used statements made during the press conference at trial, the Defendant claimed he considered the interviews “actions on the part of the police” and violated his Miranda rights. Id. The Defendant based the violation on the facts that the police asked if he was willing to be interviewed, created the opportunity for the interviews to occur, established the interview conditions, and knew the questions could elicit incriminating information. Id. The Defendant made statements voluntarily to the media rather than within a custodial interrogation. Id. at 717. While the police permitted the interviews, the media began and directed the questioning. Id.
“The essential ingredients of a ‘police-dominated atmosphere’ and compulsion are not present when an incarcerated person speaks freely to someone whom he believes is not an officer.” Id. If the reporters’ actions could be considered action of the policy, procedural safeguards used effectively “secure the privilege against self-incrimination.” Id. The Defendant knew “of his right to counsel in writing before the interviews.” Id. The Defendant did “not contend he [misunderstood] the ‘Interview Release’ form” or “that the police coerced him into signing the form.” Id. “Any statement given freely and voluntarily without any compelling influences is, of course, admissible in evidence.” Id.
In Roberson v. State, the press interviewed the Defendants while in custody at the jailhouse. 265 Ga. at 659. Before the interviews, the Defendants voluntarily assented to the interviews by signing a waiver form, recognizing they had a right to refuse to be interview and could end the interviews at any time. Id. The Defendants “previously had invoked their right to counsel,” but a lawyer had yet to be appointed. Id. The Deputy Sheriffs remained in the room during the interviews, but did not propose or ask a single question during the interviews. Id. Although the interviews would not have occurred without the help of the Sheriff’s office, the press conducted the interviews and was not acting as agents of the police. Id. It is not the responsibility of the State to prevent the Defendants from making incriminating statements to the press when they agree to speak with them. Id.at 660.
Hausner, like the Defendants in Ritchie and Roberson, voluntarily assented to the interviews and signed the waiver form. According the testimony provided by the State’s witness, a police officer read the form to Hausner, passed the form to him, watched Hausner read the form and sign it. At no point during this transaction did Hausner ask to speak with his lawyer before signing the form nor did he indicate that he did not understand the form or what action it permitted. Although Hausner argues that he thought he signed the form in order to receive a blanket, his testimony was inconsistent with the Public Information Officer regarding this argument and the Court finds the officer was more credible and her testimony is corroborated by the other evidence presented. The form is clear on its face. There is no ambiguity what it is. Furthermore, Hausner made two phone calls after the press interview during which he asked if the person with whom he spoke had seen him on television. During these conversations, Hausner did not indicate that he felt confused, shocked or bewildered by the appearance of the press and questioning by the media.
The defense argues that the police should have waited for the Court appointed lawyer to arrive before escorting Hausner to the press conference. However, as demonstrated in referenced case law and testimony provided at the hearing, Hausner could have refused to sign the form until his attorney had arrived. As mentioned in Roberson and during the evidentiary hearing, it is not the responsibility of the State to prevent a person from making incriminating statements to the press. According, IT IS ORDERED that the Defendant’s Motion to Suppress “Press Conference” Statements is denied
 
Thanks Chanler, good to know Jodi gave the prosecution a helping help, albeit not intentionally. :) Hope she and her NEW PD's are forging a better relationship than the last the two.

If you are inclined to be interested in Missing Persons, please read the Kristi Cornwell case over in the missing located thread. I would value your opinion.
 
Thanks Chanler, good to know Jodi gave the prosecution a helping help, albeit not intentionally. :) Hope she and her NEW PD's are forging a better relationship than the last the two.

If you are inclined to be interested in Missing Persons, please read the Kristi Cornwell case over in the missing located thread. I would value your opinion.

Thanks, Knox, always nice to see your moniker. And thanks for the tip: I'll check out the Cornwell case.
 
I've been doing some research on one of Jodi's public defender and came across these articles I thought might be of interest:

The first one he is alleging that his client won't get a fair trial with all the media attention (wonder if he'll try this tactic - even if it was his client that was so willing to be in front of the media). The second article is about one of his clients being mentally unfit to stand trial (which he may try to use to get the jury to think that is the reason why there are so many inconsistencies in her different stories).

http://www.eastvalleytribune.com/story/112226


http://www.eastvalleytribune.com/story/117341
 
I have been following this thread since I saw the documentary on this case.

Does anyone know when the trial will begin?

Will it be in Mesa?

I go home to Arizona, Oct 2nd, and was hoping to attend the trial if it
is going to be close enough to me. I have lots of free time while the
grandkids are in school and am looking for something to do.

Jodie is a piece of work, I think the trial will be interesting.
 
I've been doing some research on one of Jodi's public defender and came across these articles I thought might be of interest:

The first one he is alleging that his client won't get a fair trial with all the media attention (wonder if he'll try this tactic - even if it was his client that was so willing to be in front of the media). The second article is about one of his clients being mentally unfit to stand trial (which he may try to use to get the jury to think that is the reason why there are so many inconsistencies in her different stories).

http://www.eastvalleytribune.com/story/112226


http://www.eastvalleytribune.com/story/117341

Hi, Nobodyzgirl, and thanks for the fascinating research. I don't think that in this case, a public defender could argue very convincingly that his client is hampered by all the media coverage when she has been its main cause. (With Jodi quiet lately, newspaper attention has been negligible.)

As for the mental unfitness angle: Jodi is cogent, articulate, obviously not hampered by any preexistent psychological condition, and can very obviously distinguish between right and wrong. In fact, she seems to have risked conviction just to impress us with her competence.

Also, Arizona courts are known for their toughness. Remember, they're the state that found Miranda all the way up to the Supreme Court.
 
I have been following this thread since I saw the documentary on this case.

Does anyone know when the trial will begin?

Will it be in Mesa?

I go home to Arizona, Oct 2nd, and was hoping to attend the trial if it
is going to be close enough to me. I have lots of free time while the
grandkids are in school and am looking for something to do.

Jodie is a piece of work, I think the trial will be interesting.

Hi, Delaney, the only trial date I have seen is a very vague "2010." Perhaps somebody closer to the scene has seen something more specific.
 
Hi, Delaney, the only trial date I have seen is a very vague "2010." Perhaps somebody closer to the scene has seen something more specific.

I thought I read someone where that trial is scheduled for February, 2010, though I'm following a few cases at the moment so I could be confused! LOL
 
Hi, Nobodyzgirl, and thanks for the fascinating research. I don't think that in this case, a public defender could argue very convincingly that his client is hampered by all the media coverage when she has been its main cause. (With Jodi quiet lately, newspaper attention has been negligible.)

As for the mental unfitness angle: Jodi is cogent, articulate, obviously not hampered by any preexistent psychological condition, and can very obviously distinguish between right and wrong. In fact, she seems to have risked conviction just to impress us with her competence.

Also, Arizona courts are known for their toughness. Remember, they're the state that found Miranda all the way up to the Supreme Court.

I wonder if it was her new PD that told her to quit with the interviews as it wasn't helping her case, or if the media just stopped being interested.

I agree that Jodi is not unfit to stand trial, though it wouldn't suprise me if her counsel does try that avenue. I can hardly wait for the trial to start to see what happens.
 
I have been following this thread since I saw the documentary on this case.

Does anyone know when the trial will begin?

Will it be in Mesa?

I go home to Arizona, Oct 2nd, and was hoping to attend the trial if it
is going to be close enough to me. I have lots of free time while the
grandkids are in school and am looking for something to do.

Jodie is a piece of work, I think the trial will be interesting.


Hi Delany,

What a wonderful thing for all of us here at WS if you could attend the trial!! It is scheduled to begin February 2, 2010. I have pasted the court minutes link for you below. Next case management conference will be Sept. 25th.

http://www.courtminutes.maricopa.gov/JOnamesearch.asp?casenumber=CR2008031021#

Nobodzgirl ... I'm sure her previous PD also tried to get her to halt those interviews, it's rare that an attorney wants a client to talk about a case before all the evidence has been disclosed. I would need to look back to verify, but I think Jodi initially had a different PD in the beginning. Schaffer was assigned the case later. Be interesting to look at the dates of the interviews, was she doing them prior to and after Schaffer?
 
Hi Delany,

What a wonderful thing for all of us here at WS if you could attend the trial!! It is scheduled to begin February 2, 2010. I have pasted the court minutes link for you below. Next case management conference will be Sept. 25th.

http://www.courtminutes.maricopa.gov/JOnamesearch.asp?casenumber=CR2008031021#

Nobodzgirl ... I'm sure her previous PD also tried to get her to halt those interviews, it's rare that an attorney wants a client to talk about a case before all the evidence has been disclosed. I would need to look back to verify, but I think Jodi initially had a different PD in the beginning. Schaffer was assigned the case later. Be interesting to look at the dates of the interviews, was she doing them prior to and after Schaffer?

Thanks Knox for the date of the trial. I couldn't remember if it was February. I'm also following a case in Canada and tbey suspect the case won't start until 2010, though knowing the Canadian system, it will be much later than February! LOL. I'm sure her previous counsel tried to get her to stay quiet, though she seemed to want to be in the limelight that's for sure.

Delaney, if you are able to attend the trial, it would be great to get updates from you.
 
Hi Delany,

What a wonderful thing for all of us here at WS if you could attend the trial!! It is scheduled to begin February 2, 2010. I have pasted the court minutes link for you below. Next case management conference will be Sept. 25th.

http://www.courtminutes.maricopa.gov/JOnamesearch.asp?casenumber=CR2008031021#

Nobodzgirl ... I'm sure her previous PD also tried to get her to halt those interviews, it's rare that an attorney wants a client to talk about a case before all the evidence has been disclosed. I would need to look back to verify, but I think Jodi initially had a different PD in the beginning. Schaffer was assigned the case later. Be interesting to look at the dates of the interviews, was she doing them prior to and after Schaffer?

Hi, Knox, thanks for the date and so much else. (I'm trying to catch up on the Cornwell a bit, as per your fine suggestion. It's fascinating, though at this point, I can't add anything to the dialogue.)

Jodi probably wants a quick trial, but I wouldn't be surprised if a hard-pressed public defender (who is probably handling many other cases) will push for a postponement. Unless they can convince her to confess to a lesser charge, the defense lawyers are wallowing in quicksand: The exotic arguments (psychological problems; media interference) won't work and self-defense, Jodi's most plausible defense strategy in my view at least, has largely gone by the boards because [1] she didn't report the crime, [2] she went happily on with her life and [3] she created two imaginary Ninja assailants. (With this defense, she could have even used the shower pictures, saying that Travis had emerged naked from the shower and sexually assaulted her and, fighting for her life, she had to shoot him. Of course, that doesn't really explain the two dozen stab wounds.)

I agree with you, Knox, and Nobodyzgirl about the interviews. No good lawyer wants a client, innocent or guilty, to be making anything but very scripted statements before the trial. (Post-conviction can be a different matter.) For one thing, the defense doesn't know what will emerge during the discovery process. In this case, there is probably even more out there: In his post-"bloody palm print" interview, Travis's brother indicated that there was "overwhelming" additional evidence.

And I bet you're right; the lawyers decided that if Jodi wanted to stage manage the case, she would have to do it without them.
 
hi, and thanks for the link and updates.

I have every good intention of attending the trial. I will be in Arizona till
about June 1st and then back to my Illinois home.

OT...I hope to be back for the Peterson trial...but the one I'm most interested in is the Coleman case....maybe Illinois can send Peterson
down to southern IL... and Coleman up here...seems like a fair trade..
... no end to the misery these perps have caused the families.

delaney
 
OT; I am following the Coleman case too. I just can't believe his attorney's are not making him cut a plea deal. The evidence is just overwhelming that he did it?! MOO

I was raised in the tri-state area of Cali, you are what we locals call a snow-bird, lol. :)
 
Knox,

kind of a snowbird but more complicated then that.lol

I have read your posts on both cases and think Jodi
needs to spend some serious jail time away from society.

Coleman needs to fry.:furious:
 
Hi Delany,

What a wonderful thing for all of us here at WS if you could attend the trial!! It is scheduled to begin February 2, 2010. I have pasted the court minutes link for you below. Next case management conference will be Sept. 25th.

http://www.courtminutes.maricopa.gov/JOnamesearch.asp?casenumber=CR2008031021#

Nobodzgirl ... I'm sure her previous PD also tried to get her to halt those interviews, it's rare that an attorney wants a client to talk about a case before all the evidence has been disclosed. I would need to look back to verify, but I think Jodi initially had a different PD in the beginning. Schaffer was assigned the case later. Be interesting to look at the dates of the interviews, was she doing them prior to and after Schaffer?

Hi, Knox, these are the dates of interviews. (It's possible that there are less prominent print interviews floating around.)

June 10th, 2008. Police interview. [transcript]
http://www.azcentral.com/kpnx/pdf/jodi_arias0911.pdf

pre-arrest
----------
post-arrest

September 11th, 2008. 3TV.
http://www.azfamily.com/news/local/stories/Mesa-local-news-091108-arias-jail-interview.69337f30.html
[includes video.]

September 23rd, 2008. Inside Edition.
http://www.insideedition.com/storyprint.aspx?SpecialReportID=2143


March 8th, 2009. CBS 48 Hours. [video.]
http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=4849641nJodi Arias Speaks Out - 48 Hours - CBS News
 
Thanks Chanler!! Looks like Schaffer appears as PD on the record 09/19/08. Who knows how long these shows take to edit and get on the air unless they are live. Where I was going with my theory was that she was operating as her own agent prior to having legal counsel, lol.
 
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