Mykeru
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Note to JM ...
If Samuels brings up "multi-level amnesia" today, he's really Gus in disguise.
What a "multi-level" tomb looks like:
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Note to JM ...
If Samuels brings up "multi-level amnesia" today, he's really Gus in disguise.
I hate to be 'that person'...
but I'm about to be 'that person'...
(In my defense, I'm on vacation and in a different time zone, so I'm ALL thrown off.)
How many hours until the trial starts up again? (I promise to email myself the times, so that I never have to ask again.)
Thanks so much.
I sometimes hear a bit of Eminem in Juan's voice.Not that the trial should be entertainment, but that was probably the most entertaining expert testimony I've seen. Usually, the expert stuff is such a drag, but I was LOLing at times.
JM is starting to remind me of Colombo, if Colombo had more attitude.
Sheeeshhh....work is really getting in the way of this trial. So I am relistening to yesterday's testimony and catching up.....BUT....the only place I can find to listen is a link through the Jodi is Innocent site and just the thought of being on there makes me sick....so do any of you wonderful WS'ers know somewhere else that has the entire trial taped....Thank so much!
and let me say this LOW SELF ESTEEM???????????? are you kidding me? I have seen people with low self esteem and she is NOT one of them!!!
If you compare his CV with that of another expert, with over 3 decades experience, it is extremely telling. His formal education ends before I was even born. The advancements in PTSD research alone in that time could move mountains. He admitted on the stand he preferred to read summaries of studies and research rather than the actual empirical process. Which is frankly a little frightening all on its own and makes me grateful he isn't actively treating patients.
He has no peer reviewed articles; he hasn't taught a course in anything, anywhere; hasn't seen a patient therapeutically in years according to his testimony and last evidence of any continuing 'education' (which could be argued all on its own, really) comes in 2005.
And he most certainly does not follow any of the guidelines of administering a psychological assessment, even forensically, with which I am familiar.
So...I'm left with he was the best the defense could get (which says it all) and the defense erroneously believed a flawed expert was better than none at all.
MOO
Is the defense team just going through the motions at this point? It certainly does not seem like they are trying.....Can't think of why they would have put Dr. Samuels on the stand yesterday if they were actively trying to prove her self-defense claim.
Mainly what it takes to get to that diagnosis. ASPD is diagnosed based on behavioral patterns where psychopathy is diagnosed around personality traits. Someone can be a raging psychopath and not fit the criteria of ASPD at all. And someone could have ASPD, or more common, a comorbidity and not be psychopathic at all.This post is very helpful, thank you. As a lay person, I find all these classifications really confusing. Jodi seems to fit ALL of them. Narcissitic, histrionic, borderline, you name it, she's got it. Or so it seems to me. I always thought ASPD and psychopathy were the same thing. What are the differences?
I havn't had a chance to watch the entire trial so I havn't had a chance to watch JM throughout it. I have the hear the word "bulldog" used to describe him and his methods. The word that comes to my mind when I watch him is "relentless"
I honestly don't think JM is concerned with what the pundits on HLN, Nancy Grace, Dr. Drew and all the rest think of the "job" he is doing or his methods. I wouldn't be surprised, after this trial is over, we never see him on any television shows giving his advice.
I believe that this man is relentless for 3 reasons:
1) He is a prosecutor. He takes pride in his job. He enjoys his job. I think he is as relentless in every case that he works.
2) The victims family. In this case it is TA family. He wants justice for Travis and for them. He is passionate for them and their family and their pain and I believe he embodies their pain, frustration, and desire to see justice done.
3) IMO.. JM despises JA. I think this is personal now. I think its more than winning the case and getting the DP. I think being in the very presence of JA makes his skin crawl. Her arrogant and snippy attitude is disrespectful not just to JM but also to TA's family but the Justice system itself.
Everyone has their description on JM and his methods. My impression now and what I will always remember long after this trial is over is that JM is "relentless"!
He didnt seem to me to have any lack of education or experience. Whicb makes it all the more strange that he would vet up there unprepared. Maybe your average prosecutor isnt nearly as good as JM? --- The defense attorneys DEFINITELY should have known better.
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I missed yesterdays smack down too...school and life in general make it difficult for me at times. I caught it here last night though and it was awesome! :great:
http://www.youtube.com/user/croakerqueen123?feature=g-hist
He didnt seem to me to have any lack of education or experience. Whicb makes it all the more strange that he would vet up there unprepared. Maybe your average prosecutor isnt nearly as good as JM? --- The defense attorneys DEFINITELY should have known better.
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seriously, I don't know how else to classify any mental health professional who would send an incarcerated admitted killer awaiting a death penalty trial a book recommended for those described as:
What would possess anyone with a modicum of common sense to send a person who stabbed someone 29 times, slit their throat and shot them in the head and who was awaiting a death penalty trial, a book like this? It is seriously deranged. It is so inappropriate as to itself cast doubt on anything this guy could possibly say. It's as bad as his insistence on "low self esteem". Really, is that her biggest problem? Not her being an admitted killer who can't remember the three different ways she killed someone she allegedly "loved", but it's her low self esteem which is preventing her from living up to her potential?