I know it was mentioned in interviews about going to church. Does anyone know what church he might have been talking about? The reason I ask is I have noticed that catholic seems to be the most common religion in Mexico, and upon googling, I have only found about 2 catholic churches within a reasonable distance with a spanish speaking service? Maybe I am incorrect? One of the catholic churches St. Francis which looks like a very large church, seems to have a very rural wooded area behind it, so it makes me wonder if it's a place he could be familiar with?
Can someone refresh me on his route again - not the particular streets, but he left the garage, went home, back to SOL area, then back home? Home for how long before going to work?
3:58 - left the garage
3:58 to 4:08 - must be traveling from garage, onto 121 going E/NE
at 4:08 - he is recorded on 121 just past Custer by toll device, going to "somewhere" E/NE up 121 (not necessarily home, but home can't be ruled out)
4:08 until no later than 4:47 - he's gone to somewhere and then started making his way back towards the Shops area but (by inference) not using 121
by 4:47 and at least until 4:56 - he's in the general Shops area (based on pings we know of)
sometime at or after 4:56 - he leaves the Shops area
sometime at or before 5:32 - he gets to the area near his home
at 5:32 - pings near his home
If (using my personal scenario) he pretended to go to "work as usual at 8," then what came next may look like this:
5:30 woke brother for alibi that he's home [we are told he did this at sometime, don't know when]
5:30 - 7:00 or so - quick sleep? round up some "stuff" he needs in his car?
7:00 - 7:30 - wake up, shower, breakfast, dress
7:30 - [guess, but not in evidence] leaves home, saying he's going to work and perhaps dressed accordingly
7:30-10:15 ???????????? [could have stopped by work for show, or maybe he didn't go anywhere near work at all][and ultimately, to who knows where]
10:15 - on video, getting gas near his home
about 11:00 - shows up at work, looking like crap, limping, bruised, and with bite marks from where a tire fell on him (maybe it was a tire shark - dangerous critters)
Did they ever say how they tracked him or found out he was at the gas station?
IMO it's easier to wrap your head around if you think of 2 very powerful emotions. Fear or love.
Fear: I'm sure everyone's heard of a story in which someone helps to cover up a crime because of guilt by association. Think of people at a party for example, one person od's and instead of calling for help they will get together to hide the body, dump the person outside of a hospital etc etc. It makes no sense but it happens. It makes more sense to call for help, say we were doing this drug and this is what happened. But that implicates them doing drugs. So instead they basically kill someone with neglect. People react to fear in strange ways. Its possible even a witness to a murder could involve themselves in a cover up out of sheer panic IMO
Love: While I can't say I would do it for someone, some people might help someone they loved cover up even a horrible crime.
Then there's the possibility of a third party all along. That theory gets messy but not impossible. All this is JMO and I'd still also like to hear QF's take on it.
O/T- my ADD runs rampant on here too, in case no one noticed.![]()
Anymore posts that include innuendo that EA's family is involved, those posters will receive a TO.
Did they ever say how they tracked him or found out he was at the gas station?
3:58 - left the garage
3:58 to 4:08 - must be traveling from garage, onto 121 going E/NE
at 4:08 - he is recorded on 121 just past Custer by toll device, going to "somewhere" E/NE up 121 (not necessarily home, but home can't be ruled out)
4:08 until no later than 4:47 - he's gone to somewhere and then started making his way back towards the Shops area but (by inference) not using 121
by 4:47 and at least until 4:56 - he's in the general Shops area (based on pings we know of)
sometime at or after 4:56 - he leaves the Shops area
sometime at or before 5:32 - he gets to the area near his home
at 5:32 - pings near his home
If (using my personal scenario) he pretended to go to "work as usual at 8," then what came next may look like this:
5:30 woke brother for alibi that he's home [we are told he did this at sometime, don't know when]
5:30 - 7:00 or so - quick sleep? round up some "stuff" he needs in his car?
7:00 - 7:30 - wake up, shower, breakfast, dress
7:30 - [guess, but not in evidence] leaves home, saying he's going to work and perhaps dressed accordingly
7:30-10:15 ???????????? [could have stopped by work for show, or maybe he didn't go anywhere near work at all][and ultimately, to who knows where]
10:15 - on video, getting gas near his home
about 11:00 - shows up at work, looking like crap, limping, bruised, and with bite marks from where a tire fell on him (maybe it was a tire shark - dangerous critters)
Whoa, good one! I've also thought how we know sooo much (not all) about CM's phone log that morning, there's no mention of EA's except that his phone was used to contact HF 3x minutes before he left the garage. Wonder if he was texting or calling someone about his motive. Idk.. but wouldn't that be a gold mine.
I'm curious why his phone wouldn't ping at the same time as hers did at 4:47 a.m. I can see hers not pinging at 4:56 if the battery finally went dead, but how does his ping at 4:56 but not at 4:47?
What is a TO? Is it a Time Out from Websleuths? I apologize as my post alluded to that. Sorry sorry sorry !!!!!
Thinking out loud here.... in a jury trial... is the evidence against EA enough? Without Christina. I know that her DNA was found in his trunk. But lets be real... a good Defense Lawyer can have some compelling answers for that. One time, in a murder case, DNA was found in the bed... but somehow it was brought about that so and so had brought over their blanket for the person to use or something... and they called it the transferring of DNA... so perhaps the DL can somehow be so convincing that her DNA was transferred into the trunk... they can say EA was to fearful to be honest about being with her that night... to fearful to tell those things and that somehow the DNA was transferred... we all have probably watched enough reality crime programs to know that without the person.... its really difficult to convict and being afraid to tell the truth, getting caught lying just isn't enough. DNA is very good evidence but, it can be disputed by a good Defender and the jury can't just say they think he is guilty because it sure seems like it. They have to have to that 100% proof that is beyond a shadow of doubt. Just curious as to what you guys think as to if you feel the evidence is enough?
Thinking out loud here.... in a jury trial... is the evidence against EA enough? Without Christina. I know that her DNA was found in his trunk. But lets be real... a good Defense Lawyer can have some compelling answers for that. One time, in a murder case, DNA was found in the bed... but somehow it was brought about that so and so had brought over their blanket for the person to use or something... and they called it the transferring of DNA... so perhaps the DL can somehow be so convincing that her DNA was transferred into the trunk... they can say EA was to fearful to be honest about being with her that night... to fearful to tell those things and that somehow the DNA was transferred... we all have probably watched enough reality crime programs to know that without the person.... its really difficult to convict and being afraid to tell the truth, getting caught lying just isn't enough. DNA is very good evidence but, it can be disputed by a good Defender and the jury can't just say they think he is guilty because it sure seems like it. They have to have to that 100% proof that is beyond a shadow of doubt. Just curious as to what you guys think as to if you feel the evidence is enough?
Well, as others have pointed out, we don't really know about all of the evidence that LE has in this case, so it's almost impossible to say at this point, IMO.Thinking out loud here.... in a jury trial... is the evidence against EA enough? Without Christina. I know that her DNA was found in his trunk. But lets be real... a good Defense Lawyer can have some compelling answers for that. One time, in a murder case, DNA was found in the bed... but somehow it was brought about that so and so had brought over their blanket for the person to use or something... and they called it the transferring of DNA... so perhaps the DL can somehow be so convincing that her DNA was transferred into the trunk... they can say EA was to fearful to be honest about being with her that night... to fearful to tell those things and that somehow the DNA was transferred... we all have probably watched enough reality crime programs to know that without the person.... its really difficult to convict and being afraid to tell the truth, getting caught lying just isn't enough. DNA is very good evidence but, it can be disputed by a good Defender and the jury can't just say they think he is guilty because it sure seems like it. They have to have to that 100% proof that is beyond a shadow of doubt. Just curious as to what you guys think as to if you feel the evidence is enough?
Yes, a key point would be if he did indeed show up at work around 8:00.. that's about a two hour difference in drive time to hide CM...
You assume he was driving/hiding beginning at 5:30. While possible, I do prefer the theory that he "went to work as usual" at about 7:30, with a hiding window from 7:30 to 10 or so. (FWIW, my MASSIVE area I noted awhile earlier of over 2,000,000 acres to search was based on that 7:30-10 limiter ...add another 60 miles outward to that perimeter, and we're looking at an area perhaps as big as Maine or SC, literally impossible to search it all.)