TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers, 45, killed in church/suspect in SWAT gear, Midlothian, 18 Apr 2016 #45

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Joseph Duncan, one of worst most evil sadistic prolific serial pedophiles, and serial killers who was on death row has died from brain cancer.

Imo, the air became much cleaner to breathe without this monster.

Jmho
 
Here's the thing about a botched burglary - SP doesn't seem to look around the rooms. There might electronic equipment or something valuable in closets inside the rooms, but at least from what we see, SP doesn't seem interested in looking for anything to take. The purpose seems to be opening doors.

jmo
 
Also, it seems like a "feminine" stance of putting a foot behind like that, perhaps while peering in the room.

I wonder if the light being left on was because the room had a motion-detector light?

jmo
Most if not all of the rooms at Creekside do in fact have motion-activated lights. Which explains why the killer is seen so often peering into a room but not really going deep inside. I think they found out the hard way in one of the early exterior rooms when the light kicked on when they didn’t want it to.
 
I finally watched this video yesterday. One thing @Gumshoe Stories mentions that I had not known is that MB was a homeschooler. In 2016, the oldest child was attending regular HS, not sure about middle school child, but the youngest was probably 2nd-3rd grade and still taught at home by former special education teacher MB. And MB was involved with the HS child's sports. I mention this because -

There is a fine, subtle point that is easy to miss about MB's life: she was never alone anywhere, except the brief minutes when she was murdered at the church.

For about 16 years, she always had children at home. Her husband's job is local and he is home every night with one annual or biannual guys' fishing trip week. They have lived in the specific area at least 16 years, attend a church, local extended B family, friends, neighbors. MB was a people person, the social driver of her family, and she was never alone. Who knew she would be alone at Creekside Church?

Even when she drives "alone" there are other drivers, witnesses who can drive up unexpectedly. And everywhere she goes, she is with people at that location, except briefly at the church.

Why wouldn’t the perp confront her outside? The SW porte cochere awning entrance where MB always parked faces oncoming traffic on (north)westbound Hwy 287. An outdoor confrontation might be seen by anyone driving by because while outdoor cameras were not functioning, the outdoor lights were working.

JMO
The outdoor camera under the awning was working fine.

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In the 2019 Google geofence warrant, police referenced footage showing campers gathering under the awning. There was no other camera that could have possibly gotten that view. The camera that wasn’t working was on the front of the building toward the north side. There should have been cameras at each of the entrances NW, NE and SE, if not also the West entrance.
 
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Thank you GS,

check this out:

MPD video section, where SP is standing in front of one of the office rooms next to the nursery. He walks down the hallway and disappears, comes back..AND LEAVES THE LIGHT ON IN THAT BACK ROOM?

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That is very strange! What room is that, do you know, GS? If it's one of the offices, would the light would be seen outside the portico area?

ALL IMO

-Nin
BBM. I’m in a spot today with poor cell service so I’m having a hard time uploading photos. If you can find the layout I’ve previously posted, you’re looking at either room 18 or room 17 as the room with the light left on. In that section of the hallway moving down from Dutch door room 21, you have a copier room 20, then the offices are in 19. I just can’t tell whether that light is from the next door down, or two doors down. Room 18 is an office. Room 17 is a room where they keep files on inmates who are taking correspondence courses.

These rooms would have been further eastward from the awning entrance. I doubt anyone woukd have noticed a light. It’s also possible that a light was already on and that what you see in the hallway is the light now spilling into the hallway after the killer left the door open.
 
Room 18 is an office. Room 17 is a room where they keep files on inmates who are taking correspondence courses.

Is Room 17 with the files like a walk-in closet type of a file room? If so, that would make sense for a motion-detector light and also might mean there is no window to the outside that would show a light. I don't have the floor plan handy to check.

jmo
 
Is Room 17 with the files like a walk-in closet type of a file room? If so, that would make sense for a motion-detector light and also might mean there is no window to the outside that would show a light. I don't have the floor plan handy to check.

jmo
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i don’t know what it looks like in there. But here is a photo to give you the best view we have of further down that hallway. Starting down at the far end there is rooms 15 and 16. Then there is a unisex restroom/changing room I designated with a U. Then rooms 17 and 18, then the office area 19, and the copier room 20. Just out of frame would be Dutch door room 21.
 
The auditorium entrance, are we looking at a double door? Any windows? Visible lock (even though they kept the Auditorium door(s) unlocked, as you said)?
If the perp was to carry a flashlight, it would be a typical way LE operates it, vertical hammer fist, 90 degrees. Just saying.

ALL IMO

-Nin

BBM - That's one thing that stands out to me also. When I took my conceal carry class, the teacher mentioned that he would recommend everyone to take a class on how to handle something that happens at night. One thing to do....keep a flashlight by the bed and hold it up with one hand while having the gun in the other so you KNOW your target before shooting. My opinion is SP was someone who was trained in this at least.....knowledgeable with guns and how to behave with them. Not that it narrows the field down too much, Texas is a gun state so could be anyone really I guess :/
 
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i don’t know what it looks like in there. But here is a photo to give you the best view we have of further down that hallway. Starting down at the far end there is rooms 15 and 16. Then there is a unisex restroom/changing room I designated with a U. Then rooms 17 and 18, then the office area 19, and the copier room 20. Just out of frame would be Dutch door room 21.

So perhaps it would correspond to the MPD video like this?

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GS, I know you may not be able to upload the pics yet. Will check later. Thank you much!

ALL IMO
-Nin
 
BBM - That's one thing that stands out to me also. When I took my conceal carry class, the teacher mentioned that he would recommend everyone to take a class on how to handle something that happens at night. One thing to do....keep a flashlight by the bed and hold it up with one hand while having the gun in the other so you KNOW your target before shooting. My opinion is SP was someone who was trained in this at least.....knowledgeable with guns and how to behave with them. Not that it narrows the field down too much, Texas is a gun state so could be anyone really I guess :/

Yes, you know your target and your face will be obscured by the light, plus you can shine right into the eyes of your attacker, if you can't reach your gun in time. Just saying.

-Nin
 
BBM. I’m in a spot today with poor cell service so I’m having a hard time uploading photos. If you can find the layout I’ve previously posted, you’re looking at either room 18 or room 17 as the room with the light left on. In that section of the hallway moving down from Dutch door room 21, you have a copier room 20, then the offices are in 19. I just can’t tell whether that light is from the next door down, or two doors down. Room 18 is an office. Room 17 is a room where they keep files on inmates who are taking correspondence courses.

These rooms would have been further eastward from the awning entrance. I doubt anyone woukd have noticed a light. It’s also possible that a light was already on and that what you see in the hallway is the light now spilling into the hallway after the killer left the door open.

BBM -your comment on Room 17
Do you, or any others, know if this may have been general info (name, etc.) or was it correspondence? I am not familiar with how prison ministry works and the type of communication that may take place.
 
Hey all, those of you who follow multiple unsolved cases may find this interesting. Today I happen to be in Canadian, TX. Though I’m here for other reasons, Canadian happens to be the location of an unsolved murder - Tom Brown. He was a local high school student who went missing one night and his body was found much, much later. I’m sure there is a thread about it on Websleuths. If you can watch the ID show Still a Mystery on demand, the episode Clues Caught on Camera covers the cases of Missy Bevers and Tom Brown.
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BBM -your comment on Room 17
Do you, or any others, know if this may have been general info (name, etc.) or was it correspondence? I am not familiar with how prison ministry works and the type of communication that may take place.
These are inmates who are taking Bible study courses given by the church. So the files would have been like the files that a college keeps on students.
 
Hey all, those of you who follow multiple unsolved cases may find this interesting. Today I happen to be in Canadian, TX. Though I’m here for other reasons, Canadian happens to be the location of an unsolved murder - Tom Brown. He was a local high school student who went missing one night and his body was found much, much later. I’m sure there is a thread about it on Websleuths. If you can watch the ID show Still a Mystery on demand, the episode Clues Caught on Camera covers the cases of Missy Bevers and Tom Brown.
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Found Deceased - TX - Thomas Brown, 18, Hemphill County, 23 Nov 2016
 
BBM. I’m in a spot today with poor cell service so I’m having a hard time uploading photos. If you can find the layout I’ve previously posted, you’re looking at either room 18 or room 17 as the room with the light left on. In that section of the hallway moving down from Dutch door room 21, you have a copier room 20, then the offices are in 19. I just can’t tell whether that light is from the next door down, or two doors down. Room 18 is an office. Room 17 is a room where they keep files on inmates who are taking correspondence courses.

These rooms would have been further eastward from the awning entrance. I doubt anyone woukd have noticed a light. It’s also possible that a light was already on and that what you see in the hallway is the light now spilling into the hallway after the killer left the door open.

Inmates who are taking correspondence courses, what would that all be about in a church?
 
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