TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers,45, murdered in church/person in SWAT gear,18 Apr 2016 #13

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Hello StarryNight :clap:

[Edit - hi everybody. I've been a long time WSer, since way before the 2003 crash; at that time i had a different WS name & changed to PSA in 2004. To save you from going "Huh, who IS this person??" ... allow me to update you. Huge crime boff/fan; always read WS tho I never post; been following many cases here and posters are flipping awesome! I have great memories of the great people still here and excellent comments of those posting since I entered my hibernation. I might add WS wins hands down in all forums and has greatly improved from the [then] personal attacks & bedlam that reigned. Huge applause to Tricia *enter wavy guy here * for last couple of WS decades. You need one huge WS conference, dear friend! Love coming here; love the thoughts, warmth & humor - so thank you everyone, new old (and lurking). Just saying my bit in case I drop out for another few years!]

Yes, starrynight: seems an obsolete media story - but then, when media have nothing concrete to say, they churn out a story on the story (i.e.: on us sleuths & story-rumors). This is, IMO, mainly to try and keep eyes on their publication. Nothing beats WS, so I guess it won't work. Perhaps the reporter is glib that he/she/they haven't worked as tirelessly on this story as WS-ers have?

As for writing the letter: again, I agree with you here,too. However there is a thing called free speech. Is it right or wrong to pen a letter to "the perp" in this fashion? Can't answer that,suffice to say the author is finger-pointing and (IMO) it's letters like this that perhaps support the Trial-By-Media ideology/cliche.

MOVING ON & to capture my thoughts on this riveting case. (So this post may be long. Forgive me: You're free to snore, delete, jibe or absorb, LOL). I have not read every post, I have danced through every thread tho. Wow. Immense amount of thought & energy. I'll attempt to bring in factors either omitted or simply thoughts garnered as I have traversed these threads. Bear with me, if you may.

There's a song out there with the lyrics trying to make sense of no sense at all or similar. Yes. B/c murder is senseless. Irrational. Unnecessary and most importantly no human, under civil laws, has the right to deny another of life. Humans murder. We are all human. It is in all of us; we may only thank the Good Lord above there is only a very very small % of us who do kill. It's the what, where & why of that small %,that we, 'normal' people, beat out here. WHY!? MMO. Usually: Money Sex Drugs & Rock n Roll trigger that part of the brain containing heaps of anger & pride. Sad, eh?

1. It's not what LE has said, it's what they haven't said. And there is a lot they have not said; why would they? They are building a case & it must be protected under the law of the land. Us crime boffs are frustrated. The victim has gone. Missy was unlawfully and cruelly removed from her life. Whatever her perceived transgressions (a few have alluded to X Y Z), she did not deserve to die and her children did not deserve to lose their mom is such a hideous, unexpected and brutal way. If old enough, they probably read here, too. May love keep them going strong: they have much to be proud of in their mom.

2. LE said "are not suspects at this time". At this time. Well that was then and [then] meant "today"...and yet tomorrow that may certainly change.

3. Perp was not seen leaving building (as of public info). We have a few minutes of a CCTV clip. LE caught/saw the perp much longer. That alone tells you they're already some 23 minutes ahead of us. On the HD video, around 40-42 secs, I do see a hammer & claw. By my eyes, anyway. I think perp was using a long steel blade of sorts to pry open the latch and returned the metal object to his her pocket.

4. Targeted. (Missy was very fit, even taught self def. The perp knew this. I believe perp used a stun gun on Missy to subdue her then the hammer & stabbing. Speed was essential - as the perp knew a class was about to commence.

5. LE told us "other lives are at risk". Perp clearly had an axe to grind and felt betrayed or threatened by other lives. Was it sex? Affairs? Jealousy? Throwing open a less-discussed mind-set: could drugs play any part of all of this? Seriously. Could, in some nefarious way, drugs seriously be linked? Was someone paid,outed,warned or ... not paid? Did someone find out about drug dealings and feel threatened? Did someone owe money & due to their own terrible financial issues feel cornered? Was Missy's murder sending a "message" to the (perceived) target? Do LE wonder as much - hence they waned "other lives are at risk"? Did Missy discover/know something else? Was the trash, for example, take a week later when someone (not necessarily the perp) felt it was safer to trash X Y Z later, rather than sooner? If lives are still at risk...who could those people be? Suffice to say if LE believe this to be true, then everyone is being watched. And most definitely here on WS ...and the killer is likely reading here. Make absolutely no error on that score.

6. BB's Odd Media Statement: Simply odd to me, perhaps not so to many. BB said & as printed-which we've all read often enough : "....it's my children; what they will come to find out...". Here's why it's odd. Surely, if a man is trying to find out why/how his wife was murdered, he'd say "what we will come to find out". Could be innocent slip of the tongue, however I wondered: why is worried about what THEY will find out? We know, despite the innocent-until-proven-guilty (inside a court of law) nothing is innocent in a murder investigation. I certainly found it discomforting to see BB's dad jovial, smiling, laughing; as if this is not the worst news. May be so for him. Yet he has grand-kids. He at least owes them far more honor, breeding, dignity respect and love that they deserve...whatever his own emotions are ... at the terrible loss of their mom. Personally I found his demeanor a tad too flippant. That is NOT accusatory, it's merely my own observation.

7. Terrific discussion/thoughts on everything from the moment of entering the church to current news. I've noticed very little on how the perp exited, aside from a few suggestions the perp "blended in to class". LE confirmed: "we do not have CCTV of the suspect leaving the crime scene". LE did not say what they found later, or earlier on the CCTV.

8. The MC/KC on the warrants. I feel they're no way implicated other than matching stories. For instance: and do note example here...: LE may have Missy's phone, saw she texted (eg) MC to say "On my way" and MC replied. LE would need those phones to establish where each person was at cell-tower-ping time of messaging. More to eliminate rather than incriminate. And to confirm a timeline of who/when/how Missy was found & first callers.

9. Affairs. Hey...what's new folks? The basis of many a revenge killing. Ego, pride & hate. Insurance pay outs. Deletes custody/alimony wars. Deletes a witnessto any things nefarious. So, yeah. Affairs may lead (often do) to big, big trouble. BUT. No-one deserves to die for love. Divorce, sacked, sued...whatever. But no-one on God's Blue & Green Earth deserves to die for that. And no-one,dead or alive, deserves trash-talk about it either. I'm a prude, sure. I avoid things I don't agree with. But I sure as heck do not wish those people dead for what they do or how they live their lives. If I did wish such, I'd fall into that much-less than 1% who have it in them to kill. Murderers, monsters, rapists, child abusers? Hell's too good for some of those scorched deadly souls.

10. Quite frankly all close to this case (esp those on warrants) are walking on egg shells. Everyone will try act normal. Accent on act. There are some who are 100% innocent, yet thru a contact/associate may feel edgy. Their own family; suspicions, early conclusions. And yet...someone (maybe 2) knows exactly who they are, what they did and why they did this. And LE are concerned for other lives. This case is definitely a classic Murder on the Nile case. It's one of those cases that flies to the High-Profile Case that we see every few years...these are the kinds of cases that the late Anne Rule (RIP) et al, loved so dearly. Here we are: friendly followers of fate are fixated upon clues, results and justice.

Well. Told ya! Said this would be long. Now...under my rock. No helmet required as I have a very tough skin! Sending you all greetings: great posts, comments and follow up. Thoughts with Missy's children and her loved ones. Soon. Maybe soon ... as BB curiously said of his children "they will come to learn when, why, who".

RIP Terri "Missy" Bevers.

Love this...thanks for posting! I can imagine for BB it is what his children will learn. He already knows about the affair(s) I assume his children had no clue, so for me I took that to mean his children will hear very unsavory things like that and the financial problems. Most of the time parents try to avoid letting their children know of financial issues. I hate to think it, but I feel like this is going to come down to gambling or selling of illegal substances to try and get out of the debt they had. MOO

I feel like when it is all said and done, RB is putting on a front of this person who has it together (smiling etc.) for the sake of his grandkids and son. If I saw my grandfather break down, and my dad after just loosing my mother, I wouldn't know what to do. Often times girls need a "strong" male in times of tragedy, so maybe RB is trying to be that. (It's very off putting for me personally, but maybe explains some?)

One final thing, if I still lived in the Midlo area I would be hoping and praying everyone was being watched. I can't imagine the stress that this putting on everyone there. I do hope that the Bevers kids are going to counseling, this has to be the most confusing and terrifying times of their lives.
 
I don't think the search warrant for the March 1 - April 24 communications of the "target numbers" is linked on page one of this thread.

But there are five released search warrants, correct? Dry cleaners, ATT tower dump, Missy's LinkedIn, Missy's iPhone and iPad, and target numbers. Has LE said how many search warrants they've obtained?

I can't find that one also, could it be added to the sticky at beginning of thread?
 
I wonder if the rectangular box/ phone could be a taser

I wondered a lot about that too. Someone else commented on it elsewhere, saying they said it looked like a case - the hinged kind with metal edging and corners. You can get them from amazon to store glasses, pencils, you name it. They come in a wide variety of sizes. I puzzled over this one a while and at times wondered if it wasn't just a random item picked up somewhere there in the church and carried around in order to prop a door open for potential quick escape, etc.
 
I truly hate the arguments. But it shows how we care about the resolution of Missy's case. Whether we agree or disagree.

Now to outsiders. We may seem like savages out for blood.

But to Websleuthers; We are simply outsiders that want justice for Missy.

And if the 10 poi's would like to clear things here.

Then we are all ears with no rebuttals. Jmo.

But I would still check the alibi of the first news reporter on Channel 8 news.

Jmo.
 
Excellent question. Somewhere along Hwy 287 headed north?

287 is very busy I was born and raised in that area and my family still lives there. However there are many fm rd and Pasteurs out that way so I'm assuming if someone was going to dispose of something they would at least leave 287 go out where it's more rural.
 
Originally Posted by gliving View Post
"Midlothian police clarified no one in the new documents was ever considered a suspect. They say they now have several new persons of interest they are pursuing not named in the documents."

Originally Posted by gliving View Post
"Midlothian police clarified no one in the new documents was ever considered a suspect. They say they now have several new persons of interest they are pursuing not named in the documents."

MAY 05 2016 http://www.fox4news.com/news/137370703-story

So cross off everyone mentioned in the latest documents as a suspect.

Which new documents though? Can you provide a link? Did they mean the LinkedIn documents? Then it would only be CW.

There are others listed in the AT&T Target numbers document. Found a copy and posted on the Media Thread
 
Only reason I can't get past Ts: They had their trash taken in the middle of the night. DNA match usually why LE takes
Trash....

Can't.get.past.

I was leaning towards BB fam., but I'm now changing my mind again...

DNA, receipts or packaging for stun gun, weapons or tools used as weapons, receipts for specific clothing, clothing itself, credit card receipts that might show charges for items, car rental receipts, storage unit info, anything that might refute any piece if information provided by the person - more probably.
 
Breck80, has there been any confirmation about the glimpse of a car seen on the security video that was purported to maybe be the perp's? If it wasn't the murderer's car, could that person have left the area via that creek out behind the church? Followed the creek down to 287, gone under the highway, and to a vehicle stashed somewhere over there? From Google maps, it looks like a person would have good cover almost all the way, and no one would have yet been looking for a person--it seems s\he could have made it to the other side of 287 without being noticed, at that hour of the morning, and if they were careful.

I'm still 15+ pages behind in my reading, trying to catch up.
 
287 is very busy I was born and raised in that are and my family still lives there. However there are many fm rd and Pasteurs out that way so I'm assuming if someone was going to dispose of something they would at least leave 287 go out where it's more rural.
All this begs the question do we know if LE has conducted any searches of any residences looking for the swat uniform? Would we know that through a warrant being released? (I don't understand the whole LE releasing warrant to the public thing.)
 
287 is very busy I was born and raised in that area and my family still lives there. However there are many fm rd and Pasteurs out that way so I'm assuming if someone was going to dispose of something they would at least leave 287 go out where it's more rural.

287 is busy from 6 am to 9 am - not so much midnight to 5 am and 10 am to 2 pm. I know from experience.
 
Oy, and all this time I thought that he was coming out of the kitchen with the "saran wrap" there :banghead:

Could that signage by that door say "12", then? Maybe that room is along the back (top on diagram) of the church with unknown other rooms?

I have given my self headaches over that one and lol and felt like I was doing the hokey pokey turning my self about... but there has to be hallways in the front. BUT that is a door at the end of hall. I confused and got all sorts of photos as reference ;)

ETA I am not totally convinced myself that that is a "12" lol It could be but I am not totally convinced.
 
Hi everyone!

I'm back to trying to get caught up again after being out this afternoon. You guys have been busy!:clap:

I have a quick question. Can a search warrant be sealed later (after the fact) or after it's served? Or, does it have to be sealed when it's signed by the judge?

TIA!!
 
All this begs the question do we know if LE has conducted any searches of any residences looking for the swat uniform? Would we know that through a warrant being released? (I don't understand the whole LE releasing warrant to the public thing.)

LE would have to have probable cause to get a search warrant for someones home. They just can't say to a judge that they suspect a number of people and want to search their homes for a swat uniform. JMO
 
Respectfully, Tricia, if AT and CT are would the others listed in the Search Warrants that those same names appear also get the same consideration? As well as the other gentleman C W? Thanks.

Here is what I posted earlier on the thread as far as whose FB page we could discuss:

Hi Everyone,

Here is what we have come up with as far as social media and other issues:

If Facebook Pages are public then the Facebook page can be discussed.

In this case, we can discuss the Facebook pages of Missy's husband and father-in-law because they have been speaking to the press and have public Facebook pages.

According to 2 media sources, police are looking at a woman with a broken foot married to an African American. There was confusion about the race of the woman but it is now determined she is Caucasian.

Since the Facebook page is public same rules apply here.

Before anyone starts posting hog wild about this couple please remember, we have not heard anything officially. Before you post your opinion remember they may have nothing to do with the case. Ask yourself how will you feel if when the arrest is made it is someone we don't know. You've gone off on innocent people on a public forum. So, be very careful before you speculate.

If things change we will certainly let you know.

Thank you,
Tricia
 
Originally Posted by gliving View Post
"Midlothian police clarified no one in the new documents was ever considered a suspect. They say they now have several new persons of interest they are pursuing not named in the documents."





There are others listed in the AT&T Target numbers document. Found a copy and posted on the Media Thread

OMG. I didn't even know there was a media thread. I have probably made 50+ posts requesting when I could have just gone there.
 
I'd like to ask the same question. I think the owner of this site gave us something to follow. I've never seen that on here before, which tells me where to look for now.

I promise you there is nothing cryptic in my post.

Again, I want to stress, since no link is provided you should give what I stated as much weight as you want. You can totally dismiss what I said about my media sources.
Please, do not read anything into what I posted. Everything I said was meant to be as plain as day.
Thanks,
Tricia
 
I wonder if the rectangular box/ phone could be a taser

That is an very interesting idea. However, By searching Google, I can't find a stun gun/taser that is this large, this shape - can anyone? This image is from 2:05 in the video. Can anyone clean it up?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSWD1TvaGZ4&feature=youtu.be
 
DNA, receipts or packaging for stun gun, weapons or tools used as weapons, receipts for specific clothing, clothing itself, credit card receipts that might show charges for items, car rental receipts, storage unit info, anything that might refute any piece if information provided by the person - more probably.

Something else important to remember - I don't think LE would have collected trash from people who had solid alibis. But that's just my opinion.
 
Okay. Check it out.

If you look for certain threads like Oscar Pistorius or Deorr Kunz jr.

Then you may see that some are closed until further updates.

So if y'all do not want this thread closed until an arrest is made.

Then stop pushing the limits or asking xyz with the hopes of showing bias.

The admins had stated what's allowed so far.

But if they feel we are too confused or out for admin blood.


Then they will just shut the thread down and open it up after the arraignment of whomever. Jmo.

So some posters may need to realize this possible. And appreciate the minimum leeway that we have. Jmo
 
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