I also think the killer changed out of the clothes after s/he left the church. I think they either still have the clothes, or the clothes were dumped far away. It's common for LE to search dumpsters in the area near a crime scene, and since this killer seems so prepared, he/she probably figured local dumpsters would be searched. JMOI can't see the killer taking the clothes off in the kitchen or bathroom as this might increase the chance of leaving trace evidence. (I believe LE stated that they didn't have the killer on video during or after the murder so if the killer did do that LE probably would not know. But if the killer knew there were cameras inside they would probably operate on the assumption that they were always being recorded and were less likely to take the clothes off inside the church.) I don't see them doing it outside either as the priority would be to leave the area ASAP to decrease the chance of their vehicle being seen leaving. In any event, though, I agree that the clothing and helmet ended up in garbage bags, deposited in a dumpster somewhere and are now in a landfill hidden inside those bags.
I am presuming that investigators have scientifically enhanced pics of SW peeps...............or anyone else that they are interested in looking at and into. We don't know what they have. But if they think perp is female, as they have obliquely said, they can enhance pics from FB's too.............they don't need search warrants for public pictures. JMO
Is it possible there's video of two perps spliced on the LE official video or flipped the video? not sure why they do that though.
Right now I lean more toward burglary. Backup theory is a thrill kill from someone who surveilled her but didn't know her. I don't think it was someone she knew, though I admit it's possible.
There is nothing in the media or on here that has eliminated the possibility of burglary. LE has presented that theory and then your theory, and then said they're not committed to any one theory.
Another possibility is vandalism without burglary. He could have wanted to tear crap up and wore the outfit for disguise, DNA containment, protection from rain, and to guard against injury from the damage he was inflicting on glass and metal.
I've thought there were two people on the video. The person showed hammering the wall at the end looks so different from the figure seen at the beginning. slimmer, more agile. walks more decisively. But, that would mean that two people dressed mostly alike in that strange costume... Perhaps it's just the camera angle. Just another reason I wish we could see more of the video. jmo
Sorry if this has been discussed but I haven't seen anything about it recently... My biggest issue with a burglary is, if this truly was a happenstance encounter and the burglar had no idea MB would be there, why wouldn't the would-be burglar just drive their car up to either a.) their entry point, or b.) under the covered area exactly where MB parked?
It would minimize the distance they would have to carry everything they took, plus it was pissing rain which could be problematic if electronics were on the "list". If they were concerned about exterior cameras they could just cover their license plate and would probably be fine, I'm pretty sure cops wouldn't search the ends of the earth for a random small town church robber. (the main exception with the car is if the "burglar" happened to have a VERY distinct vehicle that could be narrowed down very easily even without a plate).
To me the above also mostly applies to a vandalism scenario, except that allows a greater likelihood (albeit still pretty small) of a dropoff or arriving on foot.
Okay... I've seen about 3 or 4 people here mention this... can you tell the rest of us - WHO it might be?? Or is that not allowed? :thinking: I personally don't know "what" all these people look like that are on the SW list.
TIA! :wave:
The person who did the eye picture - have you sent that to MPD, maybe it will help them, if they have not already done this themselves... (you would think!)
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okay - back to reading... still on page 5 cguru:
Sorry if this has been discussed but I haven't seen anything about it recently... My biggest issue with a burglary is, if this truly was a happenstance encounter and the burglar had no idea MB would be there, why wouldn't the would-be burglar just drive their car up to either a.) their entry point, or b.) under the covered area exactly where MB parked? [edit: I realize now that b.) would be much less likely due to visibility from the road]
It would minimize the distance they would have to carry everything they took, plus it was pissing rain which could be problematic if electronics were on the "list". If they were concerned about exterior cameras they could just cover their license plate and would probably be fine, I'm pretty sure cops wouldn't search the ends of the earth for a random small town church robber. (the main exception with the car is if the "burglar" happened to have a VERY distinct vehicle that could be narrowed down very easily even without a plate).
To me the above also mostly applies to a vandalism scenario, except that allows a greater likelihood (albeit still pretty small) of a dropoff or arriving on foot.
Especially a Texas jury. We don't take well to bullsh** defense theories.
Drilling down on the object seen in the left hand. Here are some points to ponder:
Shape: Rectangular prism, solid?
Approx. Size: 2 ½” x 2 ½” x 8-10”
Weight: Less than 5 lbs. (based on ease of carry)
Color: White, silver, dark interior
Material: Metal, plastic, cardboard
Picked up (or) Brought in: Not seen in some video footage; possibly picked up in one of the rooms: sanctuary, kitchen, classroom, office (or) Could it have been stored in perp’s clothing?
Use: Tool, weapon, electronic device, clean-up, storage (ie, perp picked up box of gallon size baggies from kitchen to put tools, weapons in to prevent contamination, or roll of garbage bags)
Reason: Burglary: Object for later personal use, object to pawn
Murder: Object for use as weapon, defense
Respectfully, even in TX juries fall for bullsh** defenses when the defendant has a lot of money to spend. Durst chopping up his neighbor and the "Affluenza" kid come to mind; both in TX. But I don't anticipate SP being someone with those kind of financial resources.
I'm confused by the question in your first paragraph about entry point. If the killer drove, do we have any reason to believe that he didn't drive around to the North side and then enter the building from there?
As for electronics and the rain... If you've parked on the N side near a door that you've broken into, you are maybe a foot or two from car to building. Not going to get very wet in that short space.
One more reply to you, as to why the perp didn't park where MB parked. That spot would have been visible from the road.