UK UK - Claudia Lawrence, 35, York University, 18 March 2009 - Chef - #1

[skibaboo]

I'm not sure, but I think the Hebden Bridge sighting was someone on a bicycle going away from the direction of the university (Northwards)...which probably means that a different witness reported the university rd sighting. The interesting thing is that both witnesses reported that the man was wearing a black hoodie.

Do you mean melrosegate bridge ellie? Hebden bridge is in West Yorkshire 2 different witnesses yes. I believe the cyclist was a postie and the one at the uni was driving past in a car.

I've always thought those 2 places were suspect. I've said before, if you were going to harm someone, along that route to the Uni, those 2 spots are places I find vulnerable spots. Wouldnt it be something IF, it was a man and woman pretending to be Claudia and a male 'aggressor'? Probably a bit far fetched tho...

 

[skibaboo]

Gone: The Disappearance of Claudia Lawrence and Her Father's Desperate ...

I just read in the book (reading test), the University of York campus had been a heavy construction side, when Claudia vanished.
Interesting ...

Yep, lots of construction at the time, and since. A lot of locals think that it where she is :/

 

[Deleted member 102539]

Do you mean melrosegate bridge ellie? Hebden bridge is in West Yorkshire 2 different witnesses yes. I believe the cyclist was a postie and the one at the uni was driving past in a car.

I've always thought those 2 places were suspect. I've said before, if you were going to harm someone, along that route to the Uni, those 2 spots are places I find vulnerable spots. Wouldnt it be something IF, it was a man and woman pretending to be Claudia and a male 'aggressor'?

Probably a bit far fetched tho...

Please help me, I don't understand:
pretending, that the perpetrator was male and not female?
pretending, that Claudia at this time was still alive?
pretending, that a murder in this area and not somewhere else took place?

 

[Deleted member 102539]

I still can't get away from the idea that it was Claudia spotted in the morning on the way to work, the hebden bridge sighting of a man and woman talking and the couple arguing on university road.....it just seems like too much of a coincidence, the time was right, on Claudia's route to work and nobody's ever come forward.

"Police reveal Ms Lawrence spent the night with a mystery boyfriend just two days before she went missing. It was 'critical' they spoke to the man, a detective adds" - I wonder if the police ever found out who that was?

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That "boyfriend thing" is only matching with the unknown man with backpack, who walked through Heworth Road while speaking and laughing on his cellphone, seemingly searching an address (Claudia's) and finally meeting her at her door, Claudia on her cellphone too, Claudia not very pleased in that moment. Source: woman, slowly driving past.

 

[Deleted member 102539]

I've said before - I think this is quite natural behaviour. Think about it: if you're walking alone at night, would you rather have someone walking behind you, whom you can't see, or would you prefer that they were in front of you where you can see them? I know which makes me feel safer. If you've ever been mugged, or just followed by someone a bit dodgy, you won't find this odd at all. Footsteps behind you in the dark can be really unnerving, especially if they pick up speed. I imagine someone with military training would do the same, it's something that becomes second nature.

BUT: why didn't he look around while he fast and purposeful rounded the corner on his way to Heworth Place, why only on his way back to Heworth Road, when he carried the bag??
I think, it looks as if he wanted not be seen coming with this bag and from this Heworth Place ...

 

[ellie b]

Do you mean melrosegate bridge ellie? Hebden bridge is in West Yorkshire 2 different witnesses yes. I believe the cyclist was a postie and the one at the uni was driving past in a car.

Yes I do....thanks for that Skibs


I've always thought those 2 places were suspect. I've said before, if you were going to harm someone, along that route to the Uni, those 2 spots are places I find vulnerable spots. Claudia and preteWouldnt it be something IF, it was a man and woman nding to be a male 'aggressor'? Probably a bit far fetched tho...

That had crossed my mind as well....agree it's not likely

 

[Robin Hood]

Maybe the couple seen arguing had very good reason not to come forward. Imagine you're caught cheating and your wife/partner knows with who and is aware of that persons routine. Your wife/partner takes off at 5.45am with the intentions of confronting the 'woman' and you take off after her, you argue and are seen by the roadside. The next scenario is any ones guess.

 

[Deleted member 102539]

Maybe the couple seen arguing had very good reason not to come forward. Imagine you're caught cheating and your wife/partner knows with who and is aware of that persons routine. Your wife/partner takes off at 5.45am with the intentions of confronting the 'woman' and you take off after her, you argue and are seen by the roadside. The next scenario is any ones guess.

If I understand what you mean, there could be verbal fighting of a couple because of cheating "male" with Claudia?
Why does the description of the woman correspond exactly the look of Claudia? Or was the person merely thus shown in the film?
Why aren't then 2 cars (one of wife, one of partner) seen on the road? Why only one car with open passenger door?
I am trying to follow your thoughts. :blushing:

 

[Yozzer]

If I understand what you mean, there could be verbal fighting of a couple because of cheating "male" with Claudia?
Why does the description of the woman correspond exactly the look of Claudia? Or was the person merely thus shown in the film?
Why aren't then 2 cars (one of wife, one of partner) seen on the road? Why only one car with open passenger door?
I am trying to follow your thoughts. :blushing:

What if the woman worked at the uni and was being dropped off by her husband when he announced he would be late home that night because of work. Wife disbelieves him = argument erupts.

 

[Yozzer]

Agreed, he looks shifty. People may doubt whether his intentions were good or otherwise but there is no escaping the fact that this was an hour before CL disappeared forever and therefore it has to be scrutinised. Perhaps NYP already know who these people are and are baiting others to come forward with information. It would be interesting to know if any of the suspects so far have any relevant previous form e.g. for violent conduct towards women.

Sorry to quote myself but re BIB, this is the sort of thing I had in mind:
In a recent interview, Alexandria, who is married with two sons, said Claudia did not always choose the most suitable men.
"Claudia always seemed to pick people with issues or problems. I remember once she was supposed to be going on holiday to Florida with a boyfriend and when they got to the airport he wasn't allowed to get on the plane because it turned out he'd been charged with grievous bodily harm at some point and she didn't know anything about it.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukn...arance-I-still-have-hope-says-her-father.html

 

[Wallace]

What if the woman worked at the uni and was being dropped off by her husband when he announced he would be late home that night because of work. Wife disbelieves him = argument erupts.
There's certainly a lot of cheating going on in that neck of the woods....wonder how it rates with the national average?

Roughly 2.6% of the population which is above nearby Leeds 2.1% but lower than Birmingham 3.2%. Don't know what the national average is but York seems close to other large cities. Of course that percentage figure will rise dramatically if you narrow the demographic to people who drink heavily and regularly socialise in pubs and clubs.

 

[skibaboo]

Please help me, I don't understand:
pretending, that the perpetrator was male and not female?
pretending, that Claudia at this time was still alive?
pretending, that a murder in this area and not somewhere else took place?

BBM - Both of these.
Pretending that something happened to Claudia on her route to work, faking arguments for people to witness.

Like I said, it's a bit far fetched but considering how the police seem to have changed their minds about when and where Claudia was murdered. First they thought that she left for work, they were seeking this 'left handed smoking man' supposedly seen with a woman who could be Claudia, for years. To now believing she did not leave for work that morning and something happened the night before/early hours. And all the arrested men, all the secrets surrounding them all. Who knows?

 

[Cherwell]

BUT: why didn't he look around while he fast and purposeful rounded the corner on his way to Heworth Place, why only on his way back to Heworth Road, when he carried the bag??
I think, it looks as if he wanted not be seen coming with this bag and from this Heworth Place ...

Because he already knew there was nobody following him?
Then on his return, after pausing to let the other person get ahead, he glances down the road to see if there's anyone else coming.

 

[Robin Hood]

If I understand what you mean, there could be verbal fighting of a couple because of cheating "male" with Claudia?
Why does the description of the woman correspond exactly the look of Claudia? Or was the person merely thus shown in the film?
Why aren't then 2 cars (one of wife, one of partner) seen on the road? Why only one car with open passenger door?
I am trying to follow your thoughts. :blushing:

From Germany, I guess I'm just trying to think of another plausible way to explain 2 other people arguing and not coming forward. The Police initially thought it was Claudia and a male but then they seemed to think she could have been murdered in her home. So if they're doubting, so am I (they have far more to go on) If it wasn't Claudia and nobody came forward then it only leaves somebody else who didn't want to be seen there.

 

[Yozzer]

From Germany, I guess I'm just trying to think of another plausible way to explain 2 other people arguing and not coming forward. The Police initially thought it was Claudia and a male but then they seemed to think she could have been murdered in her home. So if they're doubting, so am I (they have far more to go on) If it wasn't Claudia and nobody came forward then it only leaves somebody else who didn't want to be seen there.

Who also looks like Claudia perhaps?

 

[Robin Hood]

Perhaps.

 

[Deleted member 102539]

Perhaps.

Best answer ever. :giggle:

 

[jessie]

Hello All,
Can I just say how I value all your messages on this dreadful case.
I don't even try to add to the information you all provide - but do want you to know that I follow your comments/info (as I'm sure hundreds of others do too). In some way it helps to understand what may have happened - possibly - in the disappearance of Claudia.
You must all keep keeping on. The minutest details are important, as are all the different opinions.
Just wanted to say thanks to all of you in your efforts for caring.
J xx

 

[Robin Hood]

From Germany, I was being cautious

Who also looks like Claudia perhaps?

Yes, somebody who looks very much like Claudia.

 

[Deleted member 102539]

From Germany, I was being cautious



Yes, somebody who looks very much like Claudia.

:thinking::thinking::thinking:
I do know only of 2 woman, which I don't find similar in their optic , if not "perhaps" (there it is again!) the hairstyling.
Unfortunately I don't know how to refresh my knowledge. And you can't help me, what a pity.