UK UK - Corrie McKeague, 23, Bury St Edmunds, 24 September 2016 #10

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Shiressleuth said:
do they log everyone in and out then?
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He reckons gates are manned constantly. He could essentially get in his room unseen but the guards would have let him in. He's not raf though, I did ask if in his opinion it would be different and he launched into some mod talk that I zoned out of to be honest! I know from others that mildenhall base isn't very good security wise and I was under the impression that lads sneaked dates in but he seems to think the guards would have seen him.
 
Dcflag said:
He reckons gates are manned constantly. He could essentially get in his room unseen but the guards would have let him in. He's not raf though, I did ask if in his opinion it would be different and he launched into some mod talk that I zoned out of to be honest! I know from others that mildenhall base isn't very good security wise and I was under the impression that lads sneaked dates in but he seems to think the guards would have seen him.
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This is RAF Honington not USAF Mildenhall we are talking about. Am sure they have guards but where I worked they never actually logged you in as such if you had your pass. Wondered if it is similar at Honington. I.e no log just waved through. Only visitors got logged.
 
eeejay268 said:
Could we have the timeline post again please
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0300: Shift start time & vehicle checked
0352: Vehicle departs for SB (8 minute journey from site to 'Horseshoe').
0400: Bin man enters SB
0405: Driver fills in collection paperwork.
0415: Bin man starts collection procedure
0420: Bin man sees three teenagers in SB
0425: Bin man finishes collection procedure
0430: Bin man departs SB for BM (31 minute journey from 'Horseshoe' to BM roundabout).
0501: Bin lorry arrives at BM roundabout/Mildenhall.


21(15): Corrie feeds the dog and locks him in the bathroom.
21(30): Two cars with Corrie's workmates depart Hon.
2200: Corrie departs Hon in his own car (with a passenger?).
http://www.findcorrie.co.uk/2016/11/11/what-time-did-corrie-leave-raf-honington/
2221: Corrie parks in disabled bay in Robert Roby Way.
2221-2300: Corrie drinks in his car whilst making a phone call to Darroch.
2305: Corrie walks to SoBar pub and meets up with work colleagues.
2320: Corrie walks to Weatherspoons.
0001: Corrie leaves Weatherspoons around midnight for Flex.
Source- BBC Look East Evening News 12122016
0015: Corrie enters Flex night club.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=v9IR-qslpEw
0040: Corrie is 'ejected' from the nightclub.
0055: Corrie enters kebab shop & plays rock, paper, scissors with a customer.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=v9IR-qslpEw
0115: Corrie leaves kebab shop with kebab, chips and two burgers.
http://www.findcorrie.co.uk/2016/11/11/isnt-it-weird-to-sleep-in-a-doorway/
Corrie seen walking purposefully towards The Grapes pub.
http://www.findcorrie.co.uk/2016/11/11/what-time-is-the-1st-cctv-that-we-see-him-on/
0300: Shift start time for bin man. Vehicle checked.
0308: Corrie forwards a photo image to a friend from Hughes shop doorway.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=v9IR-qslpEw
http://www.findcorrie.co.uk/2016/11/11/has-the-text-message-corrie-sent-at-0308-been-looked-in-to/
0319: Two persons seen walking from Market Square towards McDonalds.
https://www.suffolk.police.uk/news/missing-persons/corrie-mckeague
0321: White Tshirt man and two figures walking past Cornhill Walk towards Loom Street.
https://www.suffolk.police.uk/news/missing-persons/corrie-mckeague
0324: Last CCTV sighting of Corrie.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=46UD0lk-c2g
http://www.findcorrie.co.uk/2016/11/11/when-and-where-was-corrie-last-seen/
0326: Two people with light clothing seen outside Cornhill Walk.
https://www.suffolk.police.uk/news/missing-persons/corrie-mckeague
0335: Dark clothing1 man walking past Cornhill Walk towards Loom Street.
https://www.suffolk.police.uk/news/missing-persons/corrie-mckeague
0340: Running man, Lurker & Legs man seen in 'Horseshoe'.
0352: Bin lorry departs (Hollow Lane) for BSE.
0356: Bicycle man, cycling around Cornhill area.
https://www.suffolk.police.uk/news/missing-persons/corrie-mckeague
0400: Bin lorry enters SB.
0405: Bin lorry driver fills in collection paperwork.
0410: Bins lorry driver starts collection procedure of ONE BIN with 11kgs of material in it. It then drives to its next pick up in Mildenhall and onto the recycling centre outside of the county via the Barton Mills roundabout.
0415: Bin man starts collection procedure.
0420: Bin man finishes collection procedure in SB. Three teenagers seen in Shortbrackland by bin man.
0425: Bin man finishes collection procedure.
0430: Corrie's phone left the BSE mast area. Phone takes 28 minutes to reach the BM area. Link at 9 minute 9 seconds point. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=v9IR-qslpEw
Bin lorry departs SB and heads towards Mildenhall for a collection, along A1101 via the BM roundabout.
0455: (Bin lorry is at Barton Mills roundabout.)
0458: Corrie's phone enters the BM mast area (if the 0430 quote is extrapolated).
http://www.findcorrie.co.uk/2016/11/11/has-corries-phone-been-checked/
0501: Dark clothing2 man seen walking past Cornhill Walk towards Loom Street.
https://www.suffolk.police.uk/news/missing-persons/corrie-mckeague
0501: (Bin lorry is at BM roundabout/Mildenhall).
0503: (Corrie's phone would be at BM roundabout at this time if the 0430 quote is extrapolated.)

0518: Dark clothing3 man seen walking around Cornhill Walk.
https://www.suffolk.police.uk/news/missing-persons/corrie-mckeague
0520: Dark backpack man seen in Cornhill Market Square area.
https://www.suffolk.police.uk/news/missing-persons/corrie-mckeague
0800: Corrie's phone is last active within the BM mast area.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ouZCCnULs34


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Shiressleuth said:
do they log everyone in and out then?
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Without going into too much detail, the short answer is no, and not in Corrie's case as that was his home base and he has ID.

If he made his way back he'd have been seen entering.
 
Shiressleuth said:
This is RAF Honington not USAF Mildenhall we are talking about. Am sure they have guards but where I worked they never actually logged you in as such if you had your pass. Wondered if it is similar at Honington. I.e no log just waved through. Only visitors got logged.
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He's half asleep and keeps going on about being locked in ffs 😂 I imagine they just wave you through with id. Last time I went there I wasn't even logged in as a visitor tbf
 
Shiressleuth said:
This is RAF Honington not USAF Mildenhall we are talking about. Am sure they have guards but where I worked they never actually logged you in as such if you had your pass. Wondered if it is similar at Honington. I.e no log just waved through. Only visitors got logged.
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I've visited RAF bases many times as a visitor and had the same experience. The airman was always waved through with just a glance at the ID. As a visitor I had to sign in and get a pass but if this pass was good for several days it would be just be glanced at every time I went through the gate until it expired. I used to work at Quantico which you would think would be extra secure as the HQ of the Marine Corps and FBI but it was the same story so I wouldn't assume Mildenhall is any different.
 
Northern Light said:
October 20th Victoria Derbyshire interviews with Nicola and Tony on Find Corrie website, Nicola says they were able to work out 28mins travel time to the roundabout and she says it could have travelled on from that mast as above. Tony said in that interview that Corrie could have been obscured by a vehicle walking out of the horseshoe, where Nicola is more adamant IMO that he could not leave unseen unless in a vehicle.
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I wonder what the 'new evidence' is that Nicola refers to which makes her say 'it's not looking like Corrie was with his phone'?

Also, if Corrie's phone could be anywhere in the world, then surely Corrie could be too?
 
Out of interest, does anyone know when Corrie last saw any of his family members?
 
I have just watched the Look East report again and the Reporter says that Corrie left the So Bar with friends and he also confirmed that the doorman of Wetherspoons confirmed that he left with friends around midnight.
 
Shiressleuth said:
This is RAF Honington not USAF Mildenhall we are talking about. Am sure they have guards but where I worked they never actually logged you in as such if you had your pass. Wondered if it is similar at Honington. I.e no log just waved through. Only visitors got logged.
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I don't think they would log (or certainly never used to) but CCTV would cover every station entrance and exit so they could look back and see when he arrived or left.
 
Polo said:
Out of interest, does anyone know when Corrie last saw any of his family members?
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My re olkection is it was very recently - maybe a week or 2 prior - for his birthday, but as has been said, there is so much info to go through I can't remember where I read it (and I definitely read it, not a video interview).
 
Polo said:
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I wonder what the 'new evidence' is that Nicola refers to which makes her say 'it's not looking like Corrie was with his phone'?

Also, if Corrie's phone could be anywhere in the world, then surely Corrie could be too?
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They keep going back to the bin lorry that it's looking likely the phone was separated from Corrie and thrown in the bin, so Nicola's viewpoint is in all her interviews, he could not have walked unseen and not been picked up by any of the cameras because there are so many of them. Therefore he was separated from his phone forcefully or accidentally and it ended up in the bin and Corrie left that horseshoe area in a vehicle. I don't think Nicola and Tony think the same, after going back over all the interviews. Tony is the one who early on made an appeal to him if he was AWOL to come back and things could be sorted out. Tony is the one who mentioned the phone pings near a dogging site in the radio interview. When asked about Corrie being gay, in the same interview Tony stated he didn't know what his nephew did, whereas Nicola refuted that there was any possibility he could be gay. Tony is the one who stated he could have left the bin area obscured by a vehicle. Tony has been more open to all options, whereas Nicola has discounted AWOL, suicide, leaving on foot, so it's leaving willingly and unwillingly in a vehicle from the horseshoe. When Tony and Nicola were interviewed in the Victoria Derbyshire programme, Tony although stating in that interview that Corrie could have left the area obscured by a vehicle on foot, he then didn't mention this again when running through the options after Nicola had spoken. Would Nicola know more than Tony, highly unlikely that she wouldn't share information and vice versa? In his last interview, Tony stated he didn't think Corrie was alive. Corrie's dad and his grandfather said likewise, and now Nicola has started the public searches. It does look like there has been a change around the time of the grandparents reward. JMO Sources of information are all on Find Corrie website radio and TV interviews. This doesn't add anything new to your question, Polo!
 
I think this is where the confusion has come from with regards to the 'phone pings'. The 28 minutes statement sounds like they've worked out the t/s/d equations from BSE town centre to BM town centre. Take a look and tell me what you guys think. That way I can update the diagrams for you...
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So it's not 12 mph then but 25 mph. Sounds more likely. Still checking sources for first ping at BM.
 
guruagain said:
I don't think they would log (or certainly never used to) but CCTV would cover every station entrance and exit so they could look back and see when he arrived or left.
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Surely that would have been one of the first things they'd have done? Checked their own cctv to see when they all came back to camp that weekend wouldn't they? To see if there was anything suspicious?
 
Shiressleuth said:
Surely that would have been one of the first things they'd have done? Checked their own cctv to see when they all came back to camp that weekend wouldn't they? To see if there was anything suspicious?
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You'd hope!! I'd like to know whose vehicles were out and about at 3am that night, at all three bases.
 
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