Legally Bland
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I really hope we get the sentencing remarks. It's impossible to tell from the reports exactly what the reasoning was for not imposing a whole life sentence. But I think it could be that he only considered Evie's to be proven to have significant premeditation.Yes I agree with the prosecution. I would have liked to have heard why the judge deviated from this. A man who murdered two of his own babies and tried to murder a third, they obviously meant nothing to him. Then he moved on to his girlfriend, as if he could walk through his life just snuffing out lives like blowing out candles. He has to be categorised as a highly dangerous offender, certainly he isn't fit to share a cell. The word psychopath was invented for people like him. IMO
I don't know about anyone else but I feel there is something lacking in these remarks. Just like when he was let out on bail and ordered to stay away from Evie, he wasn't considered to be dangerous enough to hold him under lock and key, until he murdered again, and even then he wasn't charged for over a year after Evie's death. It seems like there is some tiptoeing around some massive failings in this case and even now, it's been swept under the rug by words like selfish and cruel. What about exceedingly dangerous, violent, and unfit for society? I don't think a judge should be having to "imagine" why he murdered three people and attempted to murder a fourth all before his 30th birthday. I think psychiatric reports should have been ordered. JMO
I am so very sad for Laura Gray having to find out what he did to her beautiful babies now, eight years later. She deserved protection from him, and so did Evie.
15:31TOM EARNSHAW
Length of overall prison sentence now being decided
The judge will now determine the minimum terms Monaghan must spend in prison for the murders.
He says the victims were particularly vulnerable.
There was significant planning and premeditation in the murder of his girlfriend Evie, including faking text messages and a suicide note.
Jordan Monaghan sentencing in full after murdering his kids and girlfriend
Length of overall prison sentence now being decided
The judge will now determine the minimum terms Monaghan must spend in prison for the murders.
He says the victims were particularly vulnerable.
There was significant planning and premeditation in the murder of his girlfriend Evie, including faking text messages and a suicide note.
Jordan Monaghan sentencing in full after murdering his kids and girlfriend
I've had a look at the sentencing remarks for Arthur Simpson-Kent who got a WHO for killing his partner and 2 boys at the same time and that seemed to depend on significant premeditation.
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the appropriate starting point is a whole life order.
43. First, I accept Mr Heywood’s submission that this case falls within para. 4(2)(a)(i) of Sch. 21 to the 2003 Act. In my judgment this was indeed a case where each murder involved a substantial degree of premeditation or planning. At the very least that must be true of the murder of each of the two little boys individually and in turn after the Defendant had already killed Sian Blake.
https://www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/final-sentencing-remarks-r-v-simpson-kent.pdf
the appropriate starting point is a whole life order.
(2)Cases that would normally fall within sub-paragraph (1)(a) include –
[...](a) the murder of two or more persons, where each murder involves any of the following –
(i) a substantial degree of premeditation or planning ...”
43. First, I accept Mr Heywood’s submission that this case falls within para. 4(2)(a)(i) of Sch. 21 to the 2003 Act. In my judgment this was indeed a case where each murder involved a substantial degree of premeditation or planning. At the very least that must be true of the murder of each of the two little boys individually and in turn after the Defendant had already killed Sian Blake.
https://www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/final-sentencing-remarks-r-v-simpson-kent.pdf
Personally I'd disagree about premeditation, especially with Logan.