GUILTY UK - Kempsey, found in a septic tank, Jul'19, missing in 1982 - Brenda Venables *husband arrested*

[Mind your biscuits]

Maybe when the house was about to be sold, the owner had to relocate the remains. Moo.

 

[Alyce]

My best guess is that the new owner ( a relative ) organised a routine clean for the cess pit as it probably had not been done for a while

 

[Mind your biscuits]

My best guess is that the new owner ( a relative ) organised a routine clean for the cess pit as it probably had not been done for a while

The previous owner must be regreting selling the house at this point. He could have lived out his life there with no-one knowing there was a body in his septic tank. Moo

 

[Officer Dibble]

Re the aerial photos - was there perhaps another pit somewhere on the farm back in 1982, which has since been covered over/hidden and which might have been used as the access point for Brenda's body.

Good thinking Alyce

 

[Melt71]

This bit concerns me: "Last December police said they had finished DNA testing of the bones, but did not confirm the remains found were those of Mrs Venables." Why????!

@ZaZara posted an excellent list of possible reasons in her post of 11 May above

 

[Officer Dibble]

Approx 2 hours away, Carole Packman ?
Killer husband recommended for open prison
"A husband who killed his wife has been recommended for a move to an open prison, despite never revealing the location of her body.

Carole Packman, 40, disappeared from the family home in Bournemouth in 1985".

The Grandson of Carole Packman was on This Morning today in the UK talking about his Grandfather's upcoming parole as the family are appealing with the new law coming through for murderers to reveal where the body is. I'm not sure if there is a thread for Carole Packman? Or is there? And yes could this body be her?

 

[dotr]

The Grandson of Carole Packman was on This Morning today in the UK talking about his Grandfather's upcoming parole as the family are appealing with the new law coming through for murderers to reveal where the body is. I'm not sure if there is a thread for Carole Packman? Or is there? And yes could this body be her?

Started thread..
UK - Carole Packman, 40, murdered by husband, body missing, Bournemouth, 1985

 

[TheBlackParade]

This bit concerns me: "Last December police said they had finished DNA testing of the bones, but did not confirm the remains found were those of Mrs Venables." Why????!

Thanks for sharing this update but OMG why does it all seem sooo wishy washy?

I'm confused... did they at least rule out Ms. Venables??? It's either her or it's not....

 

[dotr]

I'm confused... did they at least rule out Ms. Venables??? It's either her or it's not....

15th July 2020 rbbm.
One year on from bones discovery, Brenda Venables mystery still remains unsolved
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''In July last year this paper was the first to report villagers had been left shocked by the discovery of human remains at a property in Bestman’s Lane.

The bones were discovered during a routine emptying of a septic tank at Quaking House, owned by the Venables family, and police later revealed they were the remains of an adult woman.

Villagers were quick to connect the find to the disappearance of the farmer's wife who went missing in the early hours of May 4, 1982.''


''Last December police said they had finished DNA testing of the bones, but did not confirm the remains found were those of Mrs Venables.


And since then the investigation has gone quiet, with the disappearance of Mrs Venables still remaining one of the county’s biggest mysteries.''

 

[Officer Dibble]

I'm confused... did they at least rule out Ms. Venables??? It's either her or it's not....

No they seem stuck. Nothing has progressed. I can only imagine that Ms Venables has no living relatives to get DNA or whatever from as its been over a year now since the bones were discovered.

 

[Cherwell]

DNA tests completed on human remains found in Kempsey
TESTS have been completed on human remains found in a septic tank in Kempsey in July last year.
A spokeswoman for West Mercia Police said: "We have had the results of the DNA testing.
"The investigation is on-going, and we are not able to release any further information at this time."

My impression is that they know it is Brenda and they know who is responsible, but they do not (yet) have enough evidence to charge.

 

[Officer Dibble]

My impression is that they know it is Brenda and they know who is responsible, but they do not (yet) have enough evidence to charge.

Good point!

 

[Alyce]

No they seem stuck. Nothing has progressed. I can only imagine that Ms Venables has no living relatives to get DNA or whatever from as its been over a year now since the bones were discovered.

Far as I remember, from our earlier research, there are younger relatives who should be able to supply samples. But possibly the problem has been obtaining any suitable dna from the bones.

 

[Cherwell]

But this report last October stated that it was Brenda. It could be an assumption by the newspaper, but I bet it came from a contact within the police.

A murder investigation was also launched following the discovery of the body of Brenda Venables, missing since 1982, at a property in Kempsey in July.
South Worcestershire 'still safe' despite rise in murder and manslaughter cases

 

[Officer Dibble]

Far as I remember, from our earlier research, there are younger relatives who should be able to supply samples. But possibly the problem has been obtaining any suitable dna from the bones.

I wonder why? When they say bones does that exclude a skull?

 

[MarziPanda]

Husband charged with murdering wife after remains found in septic tank

The husband, David Venables, has now been charged with murder.

ETA - Article also confirms that the remains have been identified as Brenda's. So I guess this thread can be moved to Identified?

 

[Tortoise]

Well that's a turn up for the books! About blinking time too.

"Mark Paul from the CPS said: "The decision to authorise the charge against the defendant was made after careful consideration of all the available evidence of this complex case and determining that a prosecution is required in the public interest."

BBM - ...I shall refrain...

 

[Alyce]

Excellent news

 

[CoverMeCagney]

Husband charged with murdering wife after remains found in septic tank

The husband, David Venables, has now been charged with murder.

ETA - Article also confirms that the remains have been identified as Brenda's. So I guess this thread can be moved to Identified?

Would be good to have her name added to the title too.

Brenda Venables, missing since 1982.

(have alerted mods)

 

[Tortoise]

Would be good to have her name added to the title too.

Brenda Venables, missing since 1982.

(have alerted mods)

You might want to add her age too, 48