GUILTY UK - Kempsey, found in a septic tank, Jul'19, missing in 1982 - Brenda Venables *husband arrested*

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Tortoise said:
Oooh! Good spot.
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The missing woman was supposedly in bed with her husband that night, and when he woke up she was gone.
Maybe in an era when forensics were not mainstream, he chucked her in the cess pool with her Nightie and jewelry still on.
Iirc she ran a garden center/nursery at that farm. The pig farm was elsewhere. Moo.
 
The house stands in its own grounds today, not in a farmyard, so there's little reason for farm workers to be there. I don't know if that was the case in the 80s though. There's a building that looks like it might be a barn.
 
Some more from the link above. The piggery was "nearby". Mr V sold the farmhouse to a relative. It could well have been fenced off from the farmland at that stage I guess.

"Mrs Venables and husband David, who is now 86 and still lives in the area, ran a nursery on the site, while Mr Venables was said to have a piggery nearby. They were not thought to have any children.

A relative of Mrs Venables said: "We have had no developments for 37 years. To suddenly be confronted with this major development is quite a lot to process." They added: "Brenda’s bank account remained untouched and there were no positive sightings of her after she disappeared."

Mr Venables was never arrested in connection with his wife’s disappearance, according to relatives. He sold the farmhouse to a relative for £467,000 five years ago and now lives in a bungalow around a mile away."
 
So is there any way she could have fallen in? Was it some kind of old and strangely accessible tank at this farm? We have a septic tank in our yard but I couldn't access it without digging up the ground and then prying the lid off, then reburying everything. It would take a lot of time and effort. The only other way would be in small parts flushed down a drain.

The only reason I'm even remotely entertaining the idea that he might have been unaware was that he sold the farm instead of keeping it to continue hiding and hindering any access to the tank. But I'm not sure what kind of septic tank it was and how easy to access. I mean if someone could fall in then no lid? So it seems unlikely. Just thinking out loud...why did he sell it then?
 
beatrixpotter said:
So is there any way she could have fallen in? Was it some kind of old and strangely accessible tank at this farm? We have a septic tank in our yard but I couldn't access it without digging up the ground and then prying the lid off, then reburying everything. It would take a lot of time and effort. The only other way would be in small parts flushed down a drain.

The only reason I'm even remotely entertaining the idea that he might have been unaware was that he sold the farm instead of keeping it to continue hiding and hindering any access to the tank. But I'm not sure what kind of septic tank it was and how easy to access. I mean if someone could fall in then no lid? So it seems unlikely. Just thinking out loud...why did he sell it then?
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He's in his 80s. He might have thought since he's old anyway he'd be able to get away with it. Also might have thought that they wouldn't be going into the tank anytime soon etc.
 
beatrixpotter said:
So is there any way she could have fallen in? Was it some kind of old and strangely accessible tank at this farm? We have a septic tank in our yard but I couldn't access it without digging up the ground and then prying the lid off, then reburying everything. It would take a lot of time and effort. The only other way would be in small parts flushed down a drain.

The only reason I'm even remotely entertaining the idea that he might have been unaware was that he sold the farm instead of keeping it to continue hiding and hindering any access to the tank. But I'm not sure what kind of septic tank it was and how easy to access. I mean if someone could fall in then no lid? So it seems unlikely. Just thinking out loud...why did he sell it then?
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The remains were in a bag. There is a picture of the cesspit in a couple of the links. Large concrete upstand with central cast iron lid plus two likely drainage soakaways either side.
 
Alyce said:
Depends on the farm
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With a nursery and a pigfarm spring would have been busy. Perhaps the nursery wasn't busy in winter, but livestock needs care all the year round, except in the short time when the pigs have been transported to the slaughterhouse and new ones have not yet arrived. But even then, a lot of cleaning has to be done for instance. My neighbour used to have chickens for meat, not eggs, and they'd plan their holidays around the age of the chickens and ordered the new ones two weeks later. He could afford to do so, it is also a matter of income.
 
Ginger21 said:
He's in his 80s. He might have thought since he's old anyway he'd be able to get away with it. Also might have thought that they wouldn't be going into the tank anytime soon etc.
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Selling it to a relative as well. Perhaps he disliked this relative. It is strange.

I think I would want my money back on that house.
 
tresir2012 said:
The remains were in a bag. There is a picture of the cesspit in a couple of the links. Large concrete upstand with central cast iron lid plus two likely drainage soakaways either side.
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Oh, well that rules that out! She certainly didn't put herself in a bag before falling in. I missed reading that info. Thanks.
 
tresir2012 said:
How do you know it's nothing to do with it? If the perp lived halfway between the two that's only 25 miles for each murder. The bones in a bag are a valid similarity that was mentioned so I linked the thread for the poster and others interested. Has the husband been declared a POI in this case and I missed it? It could have been a worker on the farm or an affair or any possibility.
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Man, 86, arrested after woman's body is found in a septic tank | Daily Mail Online
 
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