Found Deceased UK - Lindsay Birbeck, 47, Accrington, 12 Aug 2019 *Arrest*

[SpursGyal]

It is unsettling that they haven’t released a statement but there are things going on behind the scenes that must be preventing them from doing so.

I agree, I just found it odd because they would normally have announced if it was being extended, or a charge release. Maybe an update in the morning.

 

[CharlestonGal]

Has there been any update from LE? I can’t seem to see any, he would have needed to be charged/released or extended by now.

The only update I found from today is this one:

"Please continue not to speculate - any information should be passed to police. There are no further updates from police so far today."

https://www.facebook.com/pg/lancslive/posts/

 

[Lollyso]

I agree, I just found it odd because they would normally have announced if it was being extended, or a charge release. Maybe an update in the morning.

I do hope so.

LE have done a great job so far. But it hasn’t half rattled the community. It would be reassuring to have an update.

 

[Skigh]

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[CoverMeCagney]

I agree, I just found it odd because they would normally have announced if it was being extended, or a charge release. Maybe an update in the morning.

I just found this on LawStuff. There may well have been delays getting an AA in place:

• If you are under 17 years old, you also have the right to have an Appropriate Adult, a person over 18 who will support you if you are at the police station or are being interviewed by the police. They must be there by law if you are interviewed, searched, fingerprinted, photographed, giving DNA or being tested for drugs. If you are under 18 the police must try to contact your parents, guardian or carers.

If you are arrested – LawStuff

 

[Sillybilly]

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[Sillybilly]

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[Sillybilly]

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[margarita25]

Qmfr:

My first thought goes to Jessica Ridgeway. She was 10 years old. Her killer was 16 when he was arrested. He had attacked an adult female jogger before abducting, assaulting and killing Jessica. Our Late Great @Foxfire used to talk about how some budding Serial Killers start as young as 14 years old. I won’t be surprised at all to learn the motive was sexual here.

(I just wanted to correct my mistake that ARS was actually 17, not 16, when he killed Jessica. )

 

[JosieJo]

I'm "presuming" this suspect is not well known to any of the family as there would have been no need for the public appeal?

 

[Lucy6226]

I'm "presuming" this suspect is not well known to any of the family as there would have been no need for the public appeal?

There are loads of cases where the perp had been well known to the family but they still had a public appeal. It's often used as a police tactic. IMO

 

[JosieJo]

There are loads of cases where the perp had been well known to the family but they still had a public appeal. It's often used as a police tactic. IMO

Would they still put out an appeal for a name if the family had identified the person straight away ? What would they hope to gain from that?

 

[Kaykedi]

Would they still put out an appeal for a name if the family had identified the person straight away ? What would they hope to gain from that?

I presume that they would. They may well gain valuable information from the public. Does that help?

 

[Kaykedi]

I presume that they would. They may well gain valuable information from the public. Does that help?

Gathering information/witness statements helps the police to build a case against suspect/suspects for the court, and, presumably, the Crown Prosecution Service. Although, I'm no expert

 

[JosieJo]

Yes that makes sense ..I was thinking purely in regards to getting an identification

 

[Kaykedi]

Yes that makes sense ..I was thinking purely in regards to getting an identification

I understand what you mean

 

[chimpface]

Would they still put out an appeal for a name if the family had identified the person straight away ? What would they hope to gain from that?

We don't know that they even showed the family that Cctv. TB certainly seems to be in the dark.

 

[JosieJo]

We don't know that they even showed the family that Cctv. TB certainly seems to be in the dark.

No we dont but LE would be pretty stupid not to ask the family first if they recognised him before a public appeal

 

[LemonMint]

'The town is in great shock': Community in mourning after Lindsay Birbeck murder

 

[HayLouise]

A memorial walk will take place in Accrington later to remember Lindsay Birbeck

Memorial walk for Lindsay Birbeck



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