UK - Logan Mwangi, 5, found dead in Wales River, Bridgend, 31 July 2021 *arrests, inc. minor* #3

[Sooty]

Tumble dryer
A tumble dryer was found to be in use at 5 Lower Llansantffraid at 6am on July 31, 21.

It was examined on December 23, 2021, and had three buttons or dials.

There was no time delay function on the dryer.

The kitchen light was also examined and was found to be working as it should.

There was no way the light could be turned on other than at the switch on the wall.

On August 12, 2021, an electrical engineer carried out an inspection to ascertain if there were any faults to the light switches but there were no anomalies found.

There were also two external lights which were found to be fully operative and working.

CCTV footage was seized from properties in Heol Llansantffraid, Lower Llansantffraid, Maesglas, Halo leisure centre and Lifestyle Express.

Photos were also taken inside and outside 5 Lower Llansantffraid and routes from the property to the locations where Logan’s body was found and the pyjama top was found, were filmed on August 12, 2021.
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[Sooty]

Prosecution case ends
Prosecutor Caroline Rees QC says the prosecution’s case has now finished.

The trial is adjourned for the day and will resume at 10.30am tomorrow.

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[Dotta]

This is certainly interesting.

Hypochondriac much?

 

[Kitkat28]

So, Lamotrigine and Levetiracetam are epilepsy meds, so if (as I’ve suspected all along) her seizures are fake, how is she getting hold of these?

There’s no anti psychotics in that list. The only one that induces sleep is Amytriptyline, and even that depends on the dose.

 

[ChloLo]

Hypochondriac much?

It’s almost the opposite to what we see with Logan and her not seeking medical attention for him.

 

[Dotta]

It’s almost the opposite to what we see with Logan and her not seeking medical attention for him.

Oh, What irony this is

 

[ChloLo]

So, Lamotrigine and Levetiracetam are epilepsy meds, so if (as I’ve suspected all along) her seizures are fake, how is she getting hold of these?

There’s no anti psychotics in that list. The only one that induces sleep is Amytriptyline, and even that depends on the dose.

I would assume to try and prevent seizures even though she wasn’t experiencing epileptic seizures.

 

[bos]

Thanks Sooty.

Non Epileptic Attack Disorder | Non Epileptic Attack Disorder

It would appear that NEAD is often initially diagnosed as epilepsy & that the NEAD diagnosis is made after further investigation when anti-epileptic medication fails to work

 

[JuicyLucy]

So, Lamotrigine and Levetiracetam are epilepsy meds, so if (as I’ve suspected all along) her seizures are fake, how is she getting hold of these?

There’s no anti psychotics in that list. The only one that induces sleep is Amytriptyline, and even that depends on the dose.

I think psychogenic would be a more accurate description than fake, tbf. And the diagnosis of non-epileptic seizures may be recent, for all we know. If she was resistant to the idea of her condition being psychogenic (probably because of a perception that people would assume she was faking it - not unjustified clearly!) then she may well have carried on taking drugs she was told to discontinue. (ETA: or she may have been weaning off them.)

It's certainly a very interesting diagnosis imo, and likely to coexist with high levels of anxiety, a tendency to dissociate, a level of denial about her problems etc. All very consistent with the rather helpless figure she cuts in relation to staying in a rubbish relationship, failing to intervene when her child is victimised etc. I would be very interested to know more about her own childhood and family attitudes to, for example, illness as a way of getting out of responsibilities.

I'm not excusing her (alleged) role in Logan's death, before anyone starts.

All JMO.

 

[wowiezowie]

I remember Logan's father stating that after a long time without contact with AW she suddenly showed up at his local pub in Essex with a shaved head and a hearing aid. She sounds seriously deranged and to me smacks of desperate attention seeking.

 

[mrazda71]

I remember Logan's father stating that after a long time without contact with AW she suddenly showed up at his local pub in Essex with a shaved head and a hearing aid. She sounds seriously deranged and to me smacks of desperate attention seeking.

I wonder if her whole head was shaved (as I think you may be assuming?) Or just shaved in some areas as is popular in the last few years.

'Shaved head and hearing aid' just isn't enough info for me

 

[Alyce]

Thanks very much for all the updates today @Sooty - much appreciated.

 

[Doris777]

Not justify her but she's probably had no diagnosis or seen a doctor during lock down. So she could have alot of medial problems undiagnosed.
I also would love to know her history. As well as the youth.

 

[Dotta]

I remember Logan's father stating that after a long time without contact with AW she suddenly showed up at his local pub in Essex with a shaved head and a hearing aid. She sounds seriously deranged and to me smacks of desperate attention seeking.

Not to mention her hideous, unbecoming hair colour

 

[HongKongPhooey]

I remember Logan's father stating that after a long time without contact with AW she suddenly showed up at his local pub in Essex with a shaved head and a hearing aid. She sounds seriously deranged and to me smacks of desperate attention seeking.

Hearing
There was no recorded issue of Williamson suffering with her hearing.

She reported suffering seizures at the time she was pregnant with Logan

An investigation found there was no cause of these seizures and she did not show any epileptic features.

She was found to be suffering with non epileptic attack disorder. She has a reported history of non epileptic seizures.

Throughout 2020, she complained of suffering symptoms of Multiple Sclerosis affecting her mobility and sensitivity of arms and legs.

The result of an MRI scan confirmed no abnormalities were present and blood tests were normal.

She visited the doctor complaining with chronic pain, of feeling dizzy, had issues with her mobility and was using crutches and made her feel low and anxious.

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I agree - and no reported hearing issue.

Attention, on the cadge for money, or both. That’s my take on it anyway.

 

[mrazda71]

Not to mention her hideous, unbecoming hair colour

I don't think we need to attack appearances.

 

[bos]

I think psychogenic would be a more accurate description than fake, tbf. And the diagnosis of non-epileptic seizures may be recent, for all we know. If she was resistant to the idea of her condition being psychogenic (probably because of a perception that people would assume she was faking it - not unjustified clearly!) then she may well have carried on taking drugs she was told to discontinue. (ETA: or she may have been weaning off them.)

It's certainly a very interesting diagnosis imo, and likely to coexist with high levels of anxiety, a tendency to dissociate, a level of denial about her problems etc. All very consistent with the rather helpless figure she cuts in relation to staying in a rubbish relationship, failing to intervene when her child is victimised etc. I would be very interested to know more about her own childhood and family attitudes to, for example, illness as a way of getting out of responsibilities.

I'm not excusing her (alleged) role in Logan's death, before anyone starts.

All JMO.

I think it is considered a form of dissociation-interesting that it began during pregnancy with second child

 

[Dotta]

I don't think we need to attack appearances.

It is not attacking her natural appearance
BUT
the clownish image she chose to present to the world.

 

[Sooty]

I think it is considered a form of dissociation-interesting that it began during pregnancy with second child

I believe it started during first pregnancy - when she was pregnant with Logan

 

[JuicyLucy]

I think it is considered a form of dissociation-interesting that it began during pregnancy with second child

First, I think - during her pregnancy with Logan according to the update at 17:20. (Unless there was a previous child that we haven't heard about, which is an interesting, though utterly speculative, thought.)

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Unclear when investigations concluded the seizures were non-epileptic.

ETA: Sorry, @Sooty, we crossed.