UK - Sara Sharif, 10, found murdered in house, Surrey, Aug 2023 *POIs sought*

[JennieM]

I doubt it was taken by her Mum.
The picture on the wall is in Arabic.
And she seems to be with siblings also wearing uniforms.

Photos with Mum look happy and informal.
This is a formal school photo.

JMO

Sorry, I thought we were discussing the make up photo.

 

[porkypies]

I do not think her Muslim family would encourage or indulge Sara's ambition to become a model or applying filters to photos.

The Sun who interviewed Sara's mother who appears to have supplied the pictures ,rather than the press taking them from a social media site, could have been shown a selection of photos provided and chose the ones which would cause the most controversy.

I don't mean to imply that I think Sara was indulged in any way, but I do think that the 'family' (not Sara) may have provided the mother with this staged? filtered photo? knowing that the mother was happy with her daughter's ambitions (and her apparent freedom to be ambitious)? and mum would like the photo and not ask awkward questions.

 

[Skigh]

I don't mean to imply that I think Sara was indulged in any way, but I do think that the 'family' (not Sara) may have provided the mother with this staged? filtered photo? knowing that the mother was happy with her daughter's ambitions (and her apparent freedom to be ambitious)? and mum would like the photo and not ask awkward questions.

Probably the most important thing about the photo is her own mother liked it and was happy for it to be printed in a national paper.

 

[Chimera]

I thought that at first,but after seeing that it was her mother who provided the photo and appeared to be very proud of how pretty Sara was ,she was pictured holding up a framed picture of the same photo ,I think that she,the mother, applied the make up and took the photo and maybe that was her idea of making her child look beautiful. The style is not unlike the make up young pageant queens wear for competitors.

Bolding mine.
I didn't know her mother provided the photo; I thought the media had chosen it ?

But if the mom thought Sara could be in a pageant she must have been very proud of her ?
This is so sad for her, if the dad and his girlfriend, Beevis, didn't want Sara, her mom would have taken her back !

Omo.

 

[Skigh]

Bolding mine.
I didn't know her mother provided the photo; I thought the media had chosen it ?

But if the mom thought Sara could be in a pageant she must have been very proud of her ?
This is so sad for her, if the dad and his girlfriend, Beevis, didn't want Sara, her mom would have taken her back !

Omo.

I could be wrong, but the Sun paper is interviewed Olga and printed the photo for which they have the copyright so I presumed!Olga had sold them the rights to publish it. There are pictures of Olga sitting holding a framed picture of the same photograph. If not from Olga where else would the paper have got it from?
In her interview Olga spoke about how pretty Sara was and how proud she was of her.

 

[Chimera]

I could be wrong, but the Sun paper is interviewed Olga and printed the photo for which they have the copyright so I presumed!Olga had sold them the rights to publish it. There are pictures of Olga sitting holding a framed picture of the same photograph. If not from Olga where else would the paper have got it from?
In her interview Olga spoke about how pretty Sara was and how proud she was of her.

Ok, thanks for clarifying !

 

[kittythehare]

A 10-year-old girl who was found dead in Surrey was known to the authorities, the county council has confirmed.

Council leader Tim Oliver said the National Child Safeguarding Panel had been notified and a multi-agency review was under way.
"This Rapid Review will determine whether a Local Child Safeguarding Practice Review is to be undertaken by the Surrey Safeguarding Children Partnership," Mr Oliver said.

He explained: "A Local Child Safeguarding Practice Review is a statutory process, bringing together partners including the police, health, social care and education to review practice of all agencies involved, organisational structures and learning."

Sara Sharif murder inquiry: Girl known to authorities, council says

Surrey County Council says it is "working tirelessly" to understand what happened to Sara.

www.bbc.com

 

[kittythehare]

Sara Sharif was known to county council before she was found dead

Ten-year-old was discovered at family home in Woking, Surrey, after officers were called from Pakistan by her father

www.telegraph.co.uk

 

[Lubilu]

I thought that at first,but after seeing that it was her mother who provided the photo and appeared to be very proud of how pretty Sara was ,she was pictured holding up a framed picture of the same photo ,I think that she,the mother, applied the make up and took the photo and maybe that was her idea of making her child look beautiful. The style is not unlike the make up young pageant queens wear for competitors.

BBM - I've seen this said a few times, about a framed photo. But Sara's mother is holding up an iPad with the photo on the screen in the only picture I've seen, which could belong to either her or the reporter. Is there another picture or am I mis-seeing things?

 

[Dotta]

Sara Sharif was known to county council before she was found dead

Ten-year-old was discovered at family home in Woking, Surrey, after officers were called from Pakistan by her father

www.telegraph.co.uk

The same old tired story
A child known to authorities.

 

[kittythehare]

The same old tired story
A child known to authorities.

Aye.
I just gave such a deep sigh when I read it that I felt there is nothing to say, nothing at all that can ever change this endless cycle.

 

[Megnut]

I could be wrong, but the Sun paper is interviewed Olga and printed the photo for which they have the copyright so I presumed!Olga had sold them the rights to publish it. There are pictures of Olga sitting holding a framed picture of the same photograph. If not from Olga where else would the paper have got it from?
In her interview Olga spoke about how pretty Sara was and how proud she was of her.

I think the mother provided the photo to the media but she herself received it originally. From the father. MOO. When photos were still being shared. Proof of life, Proof of health. Filters and makeup might've been applied to cover bruises and pallor. All in a bid to lead the mom to a sense of security -- she looks happy and healthy.

Looks can be deceiving.

Her poor broken. I suppose they couldn't hide the damage any longer so they fled.

Horrid.

Jmo

 

[Dotta]

There are people in this world that don't deserve children.
Heartless, soulless, bitter, merciless.

They will never rejoice in joyful childish laughter and chatter.

They will die alone.

Nobody will hand them even a cup of tea in their old age.

Monsters!

 

[tinho]

A 10-year-old girl who was found dead in Surrey was known to the authorities, the county council has confirmed.

Council leader Tim Oliver said the National Child Safeguarding Panel had been notified and a multi-agency review was under way.
"This Rapid Review will determine whether a Local Child Safeguarding Practice Review is to be undertaken by the Surrey Safeguarding Children Partnership," Mr Oliver said.

He explained: "A Local Child Safeguarding Practice Review is a statutory process, bringing together partners including the police, health, social care and education to review practice of all agencies involved, organisational structures and learning."

Sara Sharif murder inquiry: Girl known to authorities, council says

Surrey County Council says it is "working tirelessly" to understand what happened to Sara.

www.bbc.com

Lessons will be learned , clearly not yet again

 

[Skigh]

Sara Sharif ‘known to social services’ before 10-year-old’s death

Police in Jhelum have said they are coming under "tremendous pressure" to track down and arrest the girl's father, Urfan Sharif.

www.express.co.uk

There is a picture of a bouquet ,with the message saying they would miss Sara's lovely smile,so even through the abuse she suffered she put on a brave face. Absolutely heartbreaking.


Speaking to Express.co.uk yesterday, Jonathan Lord, the Tory MP for Woking, told Express.co.uk: "I am in close contact with Foreign Office ministers and I know that the Foreign Office is doing every thing they can to ensure that people relevant to this case are returned swiftly to the UK.

I would hope there are no problems with extraditing anybody despite the lack of an official treaty. Hopefully this will be a formality in this case.

"I suspect international interest in the story will encourage Pakistan to cooperate."

 

[kittythehare]

“We are working tirelessly with our safeguarding partners to gain a full understanding of the situation as quickly as possible,” said council leader Tim Oliver in a statement.

“This is an incredibly sad situation, and our thoughts and deepest condolences are with everyone affected.”

In a further statement on Sunday, a spokesperson confirmed the girl was “known to” the council. They added that it could not comment further during the review process.

The rapid review will determine whether a local child safeguarding practice review should take place.

Ten-year-old Sara Sharif known to Surrey authorities before her death

Council is conducting rapid safeguarding review after death that has sparked international manhunt

www.theguardian.com

Statement on death of Sara Sharif

Tim Oliver, Leader of Surrey County Council said: “An investigation is underway by Surrey Police following the tragic death of 10-year-old Sara Sharif and we are working tirelessly with our s…

news.surreycc.gov.uk

 

[BeginnerSleuther]

I'm not sure why there's so much skepticism about the photo. It's a beautiful photo and doesn't look at all like a pageant queen, IMO. Pageant photos tend to be more over the top, with teased hair, false lashes, red lipstick, etc.

This photo looks like a little girl who got to wear makeup, maybe due to a special occasion like a dance recital, a play, or maybe just being in a wedding earlier in the day. I doubt it was daily wear and I don't think it means anything nefarious. If we find out more details, I may change that opinion, but a picture of a little girl in makeup isn't at all suspicious to me.

JMO.

 

[nao]

Moo..they are in a council house, so the whole family will be known to council committee. I am not for certain sure if they are saying Sara was of concern....moo

 

[OceanElix]

Moo..they are in a council house, so the whole family will be known to council committee. I am not for certain sure if they are saying Sara was of concern....moo

BBM
What do you mean family known to council committee?

 

[Skigh]

Moo..they are in a council house, so the whole family will be known to council committee. I am not for certain sure if they are saying Sara was of concern....moo

Not in the way this message is worded. It might be they were moved to the house in Horsell because of difficulties at their old address. They would not be reported as known to the Council just because they lived in a council house.It was because there were problems .