Unedited Police Interrogation Videos of Jodi

[Avalon85]

How crazy is it the way her demeanor changes when she starts the ninja lie?! She becomes so animated! All of a sudden she can't get the information out fast enough. It's classic JA.

 

[pufnstuf]

I agree. "Still beat me ...brat." If she's thinking of Travis, how utterly chilling!

My son watched a couple of vids in the series with me. He picked up on that immediately. As I was trying to back the vid up to hear it again, he told me that she said "you still beat me."

I trust his interpretation. He listens to metal and prog rock, so he's experienced in interpretations.

 

[jojomonkey]

Right, in no way do I suggest that ADHD or OCD can explain away the murder, just some of her odd behavior in the interrogation room.

I think one reason I'm so fascinated by this case is that in certain ways she is so like me, and yet so unlike me in that one essential respect. I even worked as a freelance photographer in college. It has been interesting and unnerving to try to discern what made the difference, how I ended up "right" (Ivy degree, good career, happy marriage) and she went so horrifically wrong.

As a socially awkward teen I obsessed over boys I wasn't dating in ways that my adult self recognizes as creepy. I grew out of it; I guess she never did. I self-harmed but did not harm others. I lied for no reason as a child. I was never, ever cruel to animals.

This probably should've gone in the armchair psych thread, sorry--not my intent to derail.

A slight derailment is no problem. We're all fascinated by this case for our own reasons. I tend to obsess over cases like this (as with the Scott Peterson and Casey Anthony cases) for slightly different reasons, mostly because I was married to a sociopath and he shares a lot of the same traits.

It sounds like you made good decisions and stayed on the right track. I guess only her parents can really give insight into how she ended up this way.

 

[ragdoll316]

I fell asleep friday to these and had nightmares allllll night. Awful.

I did too and it wasn't the first nightmare I had while watching this trial. On her first day of testimony I had a nightmare of a sociopath ex I hadn't thought of in years. Then I dreamed I killed someone I didn't know and waited in a blind panic for five days for the body to be found. Then after she said she kicked the dog I had a nightmare about trying to protect my dog from Jodi herself.

It's weird, generally I can watch any fictional horror movie but this trial has really gotten into my dreams like nothing else.

 

[Mde. LaVeaux]

BBM
I don't think so, IMO. She's in her civilian clothes in this video so it must be the first day of interrogations. When they brought her back the second day she had already been charged and arrested so she was wearing her jail clothes. The only time she had a writing tool was on the second day when the lady detective gave her a pencil so she could write to TA family. I believe that paper on the table is the stack she pulled from the little copy machine on the corner table.

I was wondering what she was doing too. I had no idea. It must not have worked since nothing happened and no one came in. You know everyone keeps talking about the "rope" and why did she take it with her. Any ideas? Personally, I don't think there even WAS a ROPE. This girl makes up stuff like its nothing. I have a sister like exactly like that. One minute she's sweet and nice, and the next she flips and starts screaming and attacking you and accusing you of all kinds of things. She hasn't been to my home since 1974, when I moved 500 miles away to Houston.

 

[Donnareit]

After watching all the videos this is my theory. I feel very sure Jodi killed Travis because he was ashamed of her and she had finally had enough. She says over and over how TA wouldn't let her post on his MySpace page, TA didn't want anyone to know they saw each other, Sky didn't want TA to sit by her at the Academy Awards (aka PPL Executive Dinner), and he didn't want her in his ward. She recounts numerous times TA pretty much pretended she didn't exist in public. Now all these actions are things that a NORMAL person would eventually say, this person is ashamed of me, I'm cutting this off and moving on. Unfortunately for TA he was dealing with a completely crazy psychopath. So instead of the reaction 99.9% of the world has and breaking it off she had to kill him for making her feel shame.

TA didn't abuse her, he acted like just about every man out there at one point or another. He was just really really unlucky that JA was the girl.

I don't think Travis' treatment of Jodi in particular and women in general rises to the level of an "abuser" as ALV defines them. But . . . let's just say it didn't help. In so many ways Travis exhibits the traits of a pubescent child (probably what Sky was calling "issues"). Then he was pre-programmed by his mother's abusive ways to be Jodi's stalking victim.

Ok, let he who is without any doubts throw the first tomato.

 

[Donnareit]

I did too and it wasn't the first nightmare I had while watching this trial. On her first day of testimony I had a nightmare of a sociopath ex I hadn't thought of in years. Then I dreamed I killed someone I didn't know and waited in a blind panic for five days for the body to be found. Then after she said she kicked the dog I had a nightmare about trying to protect my dog from Jodi herself.

It's weird, generally I can watch any fictional horror movie but this trial has really gotten into my dreams like nothing else.

Take good care of yourself. This trial is EXTREMELY TRIGGERING. There is a thread for PTSD sufferers to debrief on this site - God bless them.

 

[Donnareit]

Good post, Beloved Mom! (beautiful name, btw!!) -- I quite agree -- if JA had remained at large after her horrible acts against TA, and if she had continued to (mistakenly) believe that TA was planning to marry Mimi, I think (as others on here do) that Mimi's life would have been in real danger.

Even though the marriage would have obviously been impossible, JA might have wanted to finish killing the still-living half of the monster that was possessing her every moment and thought: the Mimi/Travis love affair. The thing that actually never would have happened.

I do wonder if Mimi has had any thoughts on how lucky she is to be alive... And the same goes for poor Lisa as well. Like Mimi, I think Lisa was also very fine "marriage material" for TA, and he obviously did, too. It's all so sad, but we do have two survivors.

And Deanna.

 

[gauntlet]

More extracts from the parents interviews for those of us who haven't seen this on TV

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=f1B68wSBfOw#!

Tawndilly did a mash up of all the programs that featured the interview so there's repeated sections.

I find her mom's body language odd. Her dad is very open and trying to help. Her mom I'm not so sure about.

The conversations. I didn't repeat them for the mash up and I have merged a few bits.

Det Fl: How you doing? You doing okay?
JAM: Not good. No
Det Fl: I guess as could as good be expected I guess huh
JAM: I want to puke
Det Fl: You going to be okay?
JAM: Yeah I'm going to be okay. How could someone that you say did this come back and just be so normal?
Det Fl: I don't know
JAM: And Jodi has mental problems
JAM: JA has mental problems. JA would freak out all the time. I had quite a few of her friends call me and tell me that I needed to get her some help. In fact had one call me in the middle of the night and tell me that she needed some help. JA would call me. We don't have a good relationship me and JA. She would call me in the morning all happy and call me an hour or two later in tears crying or sobbing about something she didn't want to talk about and that happened constantly. She was a totally different person. And her friends saw it too. I had one friend even call me in the middle of the night. He even called a hotline for bipolar people and said that JA is bipolar and she needs help that's why we talked her into coming back up here so we could get her some help and she could be around family

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JAM: Why would she do something like that?
Det Fl: I don't know
JAM: Did she just snap or what? I don't know. And how could she come back here, and be normal and when her friends call her and told her that he died she totally freaked out like she knew nothing about it. I mean how could someone do that. How? I can't even. I can't I can't think of how anybody could do that


JAM: She would just totally flip out on me and I had one of her friends call me in the middle of the night call us one night and say you need to get Jodi some help
Det Fl: What do you mean she would flip out on you?
JAM: Just like call me one minute happy and the next minute in tears. Like she was a total different person
Det Fl: Feel like you wanted to help her but but she wouldn't let you help her kind of stuff
JAM: And yeah she wouldnt' ever tell me what she was crying about but it was like a total I mean like something would snap and she would always send me in tears and call me back and God you know
Det Fl: Was she on any kind of medication at all?
JAM: No .Do they do a psychiatric evaluation when they do things like this?
Det Fl: I'm sure they will. It doesn't come up in every case but in her situation it's something that will probably happen
JAM: And her friend called me one day and said he had called some hotline to ask them questions about what she was doing and they said sounds like she really needs some help but she wouldn't do anything. I mean I didn't really bring it up to her but I thought if I got her up here where we could take care of her that things would be okay


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JAM: JA had a lot of a lot of plans for her future. How could she mess it up and do something that you said she did?
Det Fl: Did you have any suspicion at all that she had anything to do with his death?
JAM: I asked her. I ask her because that's the first thing I ask her. And when she came home and she was fine. And then when he died, she didn't call me even she called my daughter and was just totally in tears. She cried for 2,3,4,5 days . And um that's the first thing I asked her. I said did you go to Arizona and she said no and I had gas receipts at everything to prove it And that's all she would say. She swore she did not go to Arizona so course I believed her you know but I questioned her about it
Det Fl: But you had enough suspicion to ask her
JAM: Well yeah course because someone dies and...
Det Fl: What did she tell you about the relationship between her and Travis? Any indications there were any problems?
JAM: Nothing JA did not talk to me. In fact I did not even see a picture of Travis until he died and she was showing me stuff on the Internet. Umm he's a motivational speaker and umm some of his speaking things that he did, and pictures that when they went on trips together and that she took of him
Det Fl: Is that unusual for her with someone that she likes and is seeing?
JAM: No no.
Det Fl: She was a very private person
JAM: She would not even let me come down to Monterey to visit her and stay at her house because she was afraid I'd snoop through her stuff and that's the kind of relationship that we had.
Det Fl: Just lots of trust issues
JAM: And I told her one day, I said you need some help JA. You've got this fantasy in your head that you had a rotten childhood and that we searched your room all the time and we did all this stuff and we didn't. And you need some help. And the only time we searched her room was when she was in 8th grade and we were living in Santa Maria and we were getting ready to move and I couldn't find my tupperware containers. She had them on the roof and she was growing pot with her friends and so we called the police and turned her in and wanted something done you know to scare her and whatever. And that's the one time ever in my whole life I've searched my kids rooms and I don't search my kids rooms now but made I better start doing I guess uh. I don't know

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Det Fl: Any suspicions at all she might have been involved in Travis's death?
JAD: Um ah. I would put it this way because like it was two days after that she heard about it because she was quite normal til then. And then she heard about it over the phone. She was hysterical. Because I talked to my inlaws and they said she's been crying all day. And I said what about. So I go over there and she was just hysterical. That was several days after his death. I guess someone had found him. I don't know how many days he'd been there.
Det Fl: 5 days
JAD: 5 days. Yeah because that was the weekend and when I know she when yeah when she had a job at uh Burger ?? and she didn't want to go work because her face was all flushed up
Det Fl: She doesn't like to go out without her make up on
JAD: Yeah. Well she went to work
Det Fl: Well um the evidence we have is pretty damning at this point. I mean we have so much. I've never had this much evidence in a case before. And I truly believe she was involved in it. I wasn't sure she did it herself or if she had help with somebody but she would not tell me. She just refused. And she's continuing to say that. And she's completely cold about it.

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JAD: So I called her and asked her what's going on. And she goes Travis was murdered.
Det Fl: And what did you think?
JAD: I didn't think much. I just wanted to know what she did. All she could tell me was later on she was going to leave the area and I go why and she goes I can't tell you. And she came over one day and I was on dialysis and she sat down and we my wife and I talked to her for three hours while I was on it trying to get an answer to the questionAnd she said I can't tell you what's going on but all I know is that I gotta leave. And I go way and she goes because I might be blamed for something and I go what and she goes I can't tell you.

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JAD: You know she's a strange person. Because sometimes you know after she left the house she was kinda strange. She was really friendly sometimes she'l call and real sweet and ten minutes later she'll call in a real rage you know and just screaming at my wife and she did that for gee for the last year and a half. She was doing that a lot.
Det Fl: Any idea why?
JAD: No I don't. The only thing I could tell you is that uh probably financial problems because she was going to file bankruptcy but she didn't have the money to, she lost her house, she broke up with her boyfriend prior to uh Travis. And uh I'd never seen a picture of Travis she never, she showed my other kids but she's never showed us anything
Det Fl: We have a lot of evidence at the house that points towards her as being the person who commited the murder. The only thing I don't have is why. Why she commited this?
JAD: I know man she was getting along with him so good.
Det Fl: Do you know if your inlaws had a gun, a 25 auto?
JAD: Do you know, my now that was 22 auto I think. Someone broke into my inlaws house and they stole the gun.
Det Fl: Yeah that report says it was a 25 auto?
JAD: Oh it was. Oh
Det Fl: And the reason I'm asking is because a 25 auto was used in this crime

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JAM: She told me she didn't want to stay here long and she was gonna leave. She did tell me that was going to go down to umm Monterey for a few days but she didn't tell me when. Maybe that phone call scared her. I don't know. Maybe she did do it. I don't know. I just can not even imagine her doing it.
Det Fl: I can't either
JAM: JA'a very intelligent person
Det Fl: She is
JAM: Go and get the books she brought to our house. I mean she's got all these books that I would not even think about reading you know and she's smart and how could...
Det Fl: I understand she's extremely intelligent and the more I've talked to her over the last month and a half I know she's intelligent
JAM: You know in fact she gave us a hard time because I never went to college and she kept telling me mom you need to read, you need to do this, you need to better your life. I don't know. I just can't even imagine

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JAD: I got an inclination I go because oh man I don't think because was just acting so normal
Det Fl: What did you think?
JAD: I didn't think much. I just wanted to know what she did

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JAD: She just got a gun
Det Fl: What kind of gun was it?
JAD: I don't know
Det Fl: It was a recent one though
JAD: Yeah she just got it
Det Fl: Oh you know what she mentioned that. It was a glock or something
JAD: I don't know. She just told me she got a gun asked her. I asked her what you need a gun for and she was going where I'm going I need one. And I goes well where you going I can't tell you. I just want to feel safe where I'm going

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JAM: That's JA. When she went down to Monterey I didn't even know she left until she called me from Monterey and she said Mom I'm in Monterey. She was scared when TA died. She said Mom I was at his house all the time. She cleaned his house all the time. And spent all that time there In fact Travis was supposed to come up here and they were going to go over to the Oregon coast and
Det Fl: When did she tell you that?
JAM: Um um after he died. Now it was before he died she told me he was coming up. In fact it was last last weekend I think and she said this is the weekend that Travis was supposed to come up and we were going to do things. We were going to go to Crater Lake and they a book 1000 things to see before you die and her, her and Travis were doing a lot of those things together

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JAD: She treated my wife like crap
Det Fl: I mean verbally abusive on the phone. We could never ask her anything about her personal life. And ever she since she left the house she would never tell us. She was just so secretive like that
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JAD: We told her we wanted to come visit her and she goes where are you going to stay. She didn't want us to stay in her house because she was afraid we going to snoop through her stuff. And I go hey what
Det Fl: That is kind of strange
JAD: That's just the way she's been isn't it? When she was in Palm Desert after that man, that's when everything, I don't know what, it's been a couple of years there but since then she's been a little crazy for a year. It's been longer than that now I think about it

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JAM: Since Travis's death um she has been the best relationship we've had in our whole life. And I've said maybe this death has made her see that life is short and you have to, you know you can't be this way and it's changing her so so you know the last few weeks have been I mean I didn't spend a lot of time with her but I talked to her more than I have ever since when she left the house at 18

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JAM: I don't know where she would got a gun if she had one. I mean I don't know. JA's very secretive. JA doesn't she just that's the way she is. So what happens if she is found guilty?
Det Fl: Well then she'll be sentenced for how ever long they decide
JAM: For the rest of her life probably
Det Fl: I don't know. It's not up to me. I don't know. It depends on a lot of factors. She has to be found guilty first
JAM: Yeah

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JAD: One day she called me crying hysterically when she decided to moved to Mesa Arizona and she snuck up in his house and she looked in the window and she saw Travis on the couch with another woman and here they are, she was planning on marrying this guy so she just left but then she just stayed there for I don't know how many months

 

[deedee21]

After watching interrogation vidoes #13 and the beginning of #14, it obvious Travis did not know jodi was going to his house. Its also obvious after watching all of #14 that she parked her rental car some place other than his driveway or in front of his house. She totally danced around the question "how did you get in his house".

 

[deedee21]

I was wondering what she was doing too. I had no idea. It must not have worked since nothing happened and no one came in. You know everyone keeps talking about the "rope" and why did she take it with her. Any ideas? Personally, I don't think there even WAS a ROPE. This girl makes up stuff like its nothing. I have a sister like exactly like that. One minute she's sweet and nice, and the next she flips and starts screaming and attacking you and accusing you of all kinds of things. She hasn't been to my home since 1974, when I moved 500 miles away to Houston.

Your are 100% right. There was never a rope. In order to place the knife upstairs, she pretended Travis had to cut the rope because it was to long. Remember, she said Travis tied her wrist together? She said she was able to slide her wrist out easilly and at that point they started takng pics of each other. Theres no rope in any background pics. She made it up. If she had to run down stairs to the kitchen to get a knife to defend hetself, then she had time to run out the front door. There was never a rope. Only the knife she had with her.

 

[Nhic]

Det Fl: Did you have any suspicion at all that she had anything to do with his death?
JAM: I asked her. I ask her because that's the first thing I ask her.


:what: Would that be the first thing you asked your daughter if her boyfriend was found murdered??? WOW the mother knows her daughter very very well.

Can the mother be called by JM as a hostile witness?

 

[Softail]

Det Fl: Did you have any suspicion at all that she had anything to do with his death?
JAM: I asked her. I ask her because that's the first thing I ask her.


:what: Would that be the first thing you asked your daughter if her boyfriend was found murdered??? WOW the mother knows her daughter very very well.

Can the mother be called by JM as a hostile witness?

RIIIGHT??? I was a little surprised when she said, "Well when someone dies...." Good grief. They must have thought she was capable of murder for quit some time!

 

[Chester_from_THM]

After watching interrogation vidoes #13 and the beginning of #14, it obvious Travis did not know jodi was going to his house. Its also obvious after watching all of #14 that she parked her rental car some place other than his driveway or in front of his house. She totally danced around the question "how did you get in his house".

dee dee, I just finished 12. And I caught where she talks about how it started the Friday before. Travis was wondering where she would get the $$ for a road trip and JA was saying he took too much interest in her financial affairs.

This makes me think she did tell him she was planning a trip. Now JA may have told him she was just going to SC/Monterey and So Cal.

Whether he knew she was coming to AZ or not, she is still being very cagey about that.

 

[gauntlet]

More extracts from the parents interviews for those of us who haven't seen this on TV

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=f1B68wSBfOw#!

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JAM: That's JA. When she went down to Monterey I didn't even know she left until she called me from Monterey and she said Mom I'm in Monterey. She was scared when TA died. She said Mom I was at his house all the time. She cleaned his house all the time. And spent all that time there In fact Travis was supposed to come up here and they were going to go over to the Oregon coast and
Det Fl: When did she tell you that?
JAM: Um um after he died. Now it was before he died she told me he was coming up. In fact it was last last weekend I think and she said this is the weekend that Travis was supposed to come up and we were going to do things. We were going to go to Crater Lake and they a book 1000 things to see before you die and her, her and Travis were doing a lot of those things together

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Yes I am quoting myself. JAM stalls more and uses more ums when Det Flores asks about when she found out Travis was coming up. Her body language is quite guarded too. I'm convinced she knows more than she is letting on.

Although we can't know more for sure yet the actual order of the interview with JAM, it would be interesting if she started it by talking about JA's mental problems. It's like she was begging for clemency.

It's also JAM was trying to get help for JA. I just don't think she had a clue how to do it.

 

[Tulessa]

After watching all the videos this is my theory. I feel very sure Jodi killed Travis because he was ashamed of her and she had finally had enough. She says over and over how TA wouldn't let her post on his MySpace page, TA didn't want anyone to know they saw each other, Sky didn't want TA to sit by her at the Academy Awards (aka PPL Executive Dinner), and he didn't want her in his ward. She recounts numerous times TA pretty much pretended she didn't exist in public. Now all these actions are things that a NORMAL person would eventually say, this person is ashamed of me, I'm cutting this off and moving on. Unfortunately for TA he was dealing with a completely crazy psychopath. So instead of the reaction 99.9% of the world has and breaking it off she had to kill him for making her feel shame.

TA didn't abuse her, he acted like just about every man out there at one point or another. He was just really really unlucky that JA was the girl.

Her posts are still on his Myspace page. :seeya:

 

[gauntlet]

Your are 100% right. There was never a rope. In order to place the knife upstairs, she pretended Travis had to cut the rope because it was to long. Remember, she said Travis tied her wrist together? She said she was able to slide her wrist out easilly and at that point they started takng pics of each other. Theres no rope in any background pics. She made it up. If she had to run down stairs to the kitchen to get a knife to defend hetself, then she had time to run out the front door. There was never a rope. Only the knife she had with her.

AFAIK the rope story started because a small tassle or bit of rope like material was found in Travis's bathroom. Det Flores summised that it was rope. Travis had pillows in his bedroom with tassels on them. I'm sure JA used one to silence the bang. However one of the juror's even asked Det Flores if the sample was tested and he said no because they didn't feel the need.

 

[iSleuth]

I want Detective Flores to read me a bedtime story. His voice is so soothing.

One can almost not say enough about Det. Flores. his voice, plus all his calm and professional interrogation skills allowed her true craycray to develop for the record. He gave her many chances and lots of good advice along the way. On one of the tapes he even suggests just admitting something ( crime of passion) snapped and happened.

The unedited videos are really unbelievable. When she is read her Miranda rights...she asks if this was being recorded. She grabs somethings can't really make out- phones or recorders. I think it's pretty funny...that it is almost clear that by much later videos #17!!!!! )( she is wearing orange prison garb) she has not figured out the entire thing is on official video. She Swiped the paper and stuffs it down her pants!!!!! omg
::thud::
Albeit paper is hard to get in the slammer. but omg. that was priceless. just sayin'

[video=youtube;WfJJRCJUwbk]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WfJJRCJUwbk[/video]

 

[annmarie62]

If you need to cleanse your eyes and brain after watching those interrogation videos, watch this

The music on this video is just beautiful.

Travis "T-dogg" Alexander Memorial Video - YouTube

OMG you are so right- this music is just gorgeous!! I saw the funeral footage on NG a couple of nights ago, and that music was beautiful as well... does anyone know where to buy this music?? Not trying to sound disrespectful, I swear. It's just that hearing this music really communicates to my soul how deep of a loss Travis' family has suffered... HOW DARE JA take his life?! He had sooo much growing up/living yet to do; and yet, she made herself "judge, jury and executioner..." What a sick, twisted woman...

 

[borndem]

Your are 100% right. There was never a rope. In order to place the knife upstairs, she pretended Travis had to cut the rope because it was to long. Remember, she said Travis tied her wrist together? She said she was able to slide her wrist out easilly and at that point they started takng pics of each other. Theres no rope in any background pics. She made it up. If she had to run down stairs to the kitchen to get a knife to defend hetself, then she had time to run out the front door. There was never a rope. Only the knife she had with her.

bbm
I agree, deedee -- She worked in restaurants -- her father's restaurants and others -- that's what she had done since prolly her high school days. She knew about knives -- I have never heard that she was a cook, but she was around good quality knives in some of those places she worked & she prolly knew what kind was best to "do the job" on TA (I have a very good boning knife...). She brought her grandfather's gun (stolen by JA, of course -- she lived in the house with it, although she said she didn't know he had that gun, duh), and she brought a good knife, prolly stolen from a restaurant...

Maybe she hid them both in TA's closet; IDK, but she had put them somewhere that would be close by. She planned the weapons angle -- of that I am absolutely sure, as are most of us here on WS. She had made a long list of things to do him in...