Found Deceased UT - REMAINS FOUND - MacKenzie "Kenzie" Lueck, 23, Salt Lake City, 17 June 2019 #13 *ARREST*

[diggndeeperstill]

I understand. Utah state was harder to find. AND, U of U info would still be important because they are required to report off campus rapes as well, IMHO.

Utah state is a mess with problems in Title IX sex assaults. I won’t link stories but a big problem in that office.

The following is a great too and I’ve linked Utah State but you can use it to search any school in the US.

Campus Safety and Security

Eta:: I forgot to insert quote again and can’t figure out how to add via edit on mobile. Sorry
Edited typos

 

[Boxer]

this would make you think the killing was an accident, but i still come back to the lyft and the park - if he hadn't planned to kill her WHY drive to a park to meet her and not just pick her up at the airport?

MOO it is big problem when the victim can't "speak" through their manner of death.

 

[MassGuy]

Park still throws me off. You still had to communicate with her to meet at that destination. You're still going to be tabbed as the last one communicating with her. It just makes no sense.

Exactly. It made sense to him though, which is what matters.

It’s impossible for us to grasp his thinking, because we don’t have all the facts, nor are we as stupid as this man appears to be.

If I drank a lot of liquor and slammed my head against the wall a few times, I could probably understand where he was coming from.

All the effort to conceal his identity and make the trail to cold, and he gives law enforcement the gift to end all gifts.

Irrefutable evidence.

 

[DD8]

This is my first WS post - ever. I am lucky to be alive from a similar experience in a large city not far from SLC, but different state. I do not know what I am permitted to say on this forum. I do not mean to offend or overstep - but could not stay lurking/ quiet any longer, as details unfold if accurate-

Kenzie’s brutal and heartbreaking story has kept me awake for days, following each detail as they slowly become available. I cannot accept the similarities I am reading here, and these atrocities are allowed to happen, and nothing is being done. My perp is from Ethiopia, the last I had a PI run a thorough report he was actively harassing girls on the local college campus here- still. He’s a repeat violent offender, he was prior to my case too, but they won’t seem to jail or imprison him. Who knows how he got to this country- my questions were never answered, court documents disappeared, he was released early, given psychological defer- etc- I’m physically ill reading the similarities of Kenzie ( I simply refuse to even put his initials even close to her sweet name) -

If you all only knew...I’ve been reading your posts, responses, thoughts and input and it just has left me hopeless knowing what I know- this was bound to happen and it’s so sick and wrong...no one, no matter who they are or what they may or may not have been doing- ever needs to come across this evil, because this evil had been clearly identified many times, and it was ignored.

My evil came here from Ethiopia because he had done something so heinous - they didn’t want him, and his supposedly wealthy, connected parents got him here , he too was a “student” or “homeless “ or getting assistance- ( all this sound too familiar) I never got those answers either- ??? .... I was just out gardening in my yard when he saw me- no SD/ SB or even internet needed...technology didn’t apply...love to beautiful Kenzie and all who were lucky enough to know & love her...group hug -

(((Group hug)))

 

[trujac]

Park still throws me off. You still had to communicate with her to meet at that destination. You're still going to be tabbed as the last one communicating with her. It just makes no sense.

Brad, He really could have started to slip off the deep end psychologically...which would explain why he become so reckless with his behavior and actions...everything he did leading up to the murder, as well as his ridiculous attempts to get rid of evidence points to a deteriorating thinking process, in my opinion.

 

[Mspionage]

I was incorrect about the location, it was Portland

Park still throws me off. You still had to communicate with her to meet at that destination. You're still going to be tabbed as the last one communicating with her. It just makes no sense.

The part about the park that interests me the most is that the cameras were not functioning. It would not be difficult for a subject to disable them. Given he picked the park it makes me wonder if he is the one who previously took the cams offline and that has been his pickup spot so no drop offs ever were registered to his home. That right there is a big deal to me. He picked the park so the drive record would never show his location so that tells me he would have had to scope that drop off point first.

Any police activity at that park/cameras of late during their local investigation?

 

[SoCalGirl]

I was incorrect about the location, it was Portland

The part about the park that interests me the most is that the cameras were not functioning. It would not be difficult for a subject to disable them. Given he picked the park it makes me wonder if he is the one who previously took the cams offline and that has been his pickup spot so no drop offs ever were registered to his home. That right there is a big deal to me. He picked the park so the drive record would never show his location so that tells me he would have had to scope that drop off point first.

Any police activity at that park/cameras of late during their local investigation?

Those park cameras were never functioning cameras - only dummies. However, he could've been aware of that fact.

 

[DD8]

I meant he must have made her freak out to make her say no. Given what we know, he probably was into some really weird stuff.

Or she was "done" and he wouldn't stop...

 

[diggndeeperstill]

I believe one of the early reports about the fires from neighbors said that he recently had quit taking care of his yard.
IMHO fits with a psychological decline

 

[trujac]

I was incorrect about the location, it was Portland

The part about the park that interests me the most is that the cameras were not functioning. It would not be difficult for a subject to disable them. Given he picked the park it makes me wonder if he is the one who previously took the cams offline and that has been his pickup spot so no drop offs ever were registered to his home. That right there is a big deal to me. He picked the park so the drive record would never show his location so that tells me he would have had to scope that drop off point first.

Any police activity at that park/cameras of late during their local investigation?

According to a park official that was interviewed a few weeks ago...the cameras were put up at the park in non-working order only as a visual deterrent...the suspect lived across the street from the park at one time...he might have known that the cameras weren't hooked up.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

this would make you think the killing was an accident, but i still come back to the lyft and the park - if he hadn't planned to kill her WHY drive to a park to meet her and not just pick her up at the airport?

Imo, this was all a very well thoughtout premeditated plan.

That is why he did not pick her up at the airport knowing cameras would catch him entering, and leaving with his targeted victim.

What he premeditated to do to his victim he carried it out.

Imo, it was so heinous he knew he would have to completely destroy what he had made her endure before ending her life. That also was all planned before he picked her up.

He knew the only way to protect his dark deviancy was to make sure all that was found of KL was bits of tissue.

Imo, AA made KL endure prolonged pain, suffering, and torture.

Imo he is another monster like Joe Duncan, but targets young adult females instead of young vulnerable children.

They are both sadists who like nothing more than to inflict as much pain, suffering, and agony to their victims before finally murdering them.

Jmho

 

[kiaatcher]

According to a park official that was interviewed a few weeks ago...the cameras were put up at the park in non-working order only as a visual deterrent...

RSBM.
What the hell. How is this efficient in any way? I get that the city doesn't want to spend the money, but why?

 

[Inthedetails]

I believe one of the early reports about the fires from neighbors said that he recently had quit taking care of his yard.
IMHO fits with a psychological decline

And perhaps binging on sex (and possibly drugs, idk). The whole thing does seem like fulfilling a desperate need on his part - with the 3am meeting as an indication of that. imo

jmo

 

[Vresia]

Hmm. The only other one I can find is in Cibolo Texas. Nothing came up when I searched Utah on the Better Business Bureau.

AA didn't register Geeks Online in Utah until 5/17/19. Entity Details: GEEKS ONLINE LLC - Utah Business Search - Utah.gov

I wonder if the TX Geeks Online was established using his wife/ ex-wife's address and, after his problems with the BBB, he decided to close down the TX company and start using his Utah address.

 

[kirk2010]

But in my experience, university police do not keep long term, extensive data bases on the people they ban. What they're really doing is putting a (temporary) restraining order on the person, not to come on that piece of public land. They really have to charge them with something and go to court to completely ban them (which rarely happens).

Most campus exclusionary orders are only valid for one year

 

[Boxer]

Brad, He really could have started to slip off the deep end psychologically...which would explain why he become so reckless with his behavior and actions...everything he did leading up to the murder, as well as his ridiculous attempts to get rid of evidence points to a deteriorating thinking process, in my opinion.

MOO the evidence he left behind does point to kidnap then an unplanned killing than complete premeditation, and is more consistent with what others have said about his volatile violence when not getting his way.
MOO it was easy to see from her corpse that he was responsible for her death. So he burned the corpse, not intending to get away with it completely but to hide how he murdered her.

 

[Jealoushe]

I dont know what to think though specifically regarding this. He wasnt stupid. He was familiar with technology and how things work. I'm sure he was intelligent enough to know everything was going to track back to him but he still murdered her anyways. That's the scary part. I would like to know what happened.

When a sadist gets the opportunity to kill its all they can focus on, and that’s how things get sloppy.

 

[oviedo]

Exactly. It made sense to him though, which is what matters.

It’s impossible for us to grasp his thinking, because we don’t have all the facts, nor are we as stupid as this man appears to be.

If I drank a lot of liquor and slammed my head against the wall a few times, I could probably understand where he was coming from.

All the effort to conceal his identity and make the trail to cold, and he gives law enforcement the gift to end all gifts.

Irrefutable evidence.

Sometimes I think we sleuthers know this stuff (cell phone pings location records etc) and so we conclude these killers are just stupid but I’m wondering that the average joe killer doesn’t think about this stuff? We’ve seen it in CO, CT and many others - the phone is the enemy but they just don’t know it IMO

 

[MassGuy]

Sometimes I think we sleuthers know this stuff (cell phone pings location records etc) and so we conclude these killers are just stupid but I’m wondering that the average joe killer doesn’t think about this stuff? We’ve seen it in CO, CT and many others - the phone is the enemy but they just don’t know it IMO

In most cases, you’re probably right.

This guy had to have known though. He was in IT, and murder aside, he’s not a complete dolt.

He appears to have put a great deal of thought into this, and taken certain measures to conceal his connection to her.

I continue to believe that he was behind Kenzie's phone going dead.

So I just don’t know what to make of his errors here.

 

[ClaireNC]

AA didn't register Geeks Online in Utah until 5/17/19. Entity Details: GEEKS ONLINE LLC - Utah Business Search - Utah.gov

I wonder if the TX Geeks Online was established using his wife/ ex-wife's address and, after his problems with the BBB, he decided to close down the TX company and start using his Utah address.

I checked the Dallas County, Texas business records and Geeks Online is not registered there.