UT -Susan Powell, 28, West Valley City, 6 Dec 2009 - #3

[Taminator]

A lot of the footage does not end up in the final broadcast or web edition (unless it specifically says it is raw footage. A lot of the video they may be requesting to not be destroyed is probably stuff that they edit out and eventually destroy. Stuff that would be generally unavailable to the public.

 

[nervous_nellie]

A lot of the footage does not end up in the final broadcast or web edition (unless it specifically says it is raw footage. A lot of the video they may be requesting to not be destroyed is probably stuff that they edit out and eventually destroy. Stuff that would be generally unavailable to the public.

yes, raw fox just said..

 

[gitana1]

It astounds me that these men think they can get away with the murder of their spouses. Don't they read the news?

 

[Texas Mist]

It astounds me that these men think they can get away with the murder of their spouses. Don't they read the news?

especially a man who lived so close to Mark Hacking & the national attention that case got. :loser:

 

[smart blonde]

I wish it were that easy Chemaster! We've seen from experience that , in almost every case, minor children remain in the care (if you can call it that) of the killer , sometimes for years, before he/ she is finally brought to justice.

People who are capable of murdering their children's mother are not emotionally well. They are not capable of good parenting; their specialty is emotional and mental manipulation and abuse, which can do nothing but damage to a vulnerable child's psyche.

I am married to a career cop, and believe me, there are many, many children who cops see every day who are not safe in their homes, and there is nothing they can do about it because knowing that the abuse is likely to occur is not enough...the courts don't step in until the damage is done, or a child is dead.

Children are not ever safe with a killer...leaving them there is a roll of the dice. (JMO as well.)

I agree... just look at Drew Peterson.

Up until his recent arrest, he was suspected by many to be involved/responsible in the murder of his 3rd wife, and also the disappearance and probable murder of his 4th wife (Stacy), yet he was still raising all the children from both of these marriages.

 

[Steely Dan]

does anyone else have blown margins?

Not moi.

http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=9077062

:waitasec: Hmmm, makes ya think don't it.

Maybe evidence on him, the frost bitten hands? Something on his clothes?
Scratch we didn't see, healed now??? I would say evidence to compare to now.........

Good thinkin. :thumb:

I agree, and it seems to me that the children are in more and more danger with every passing moment as Josh feels the police closing in.

Somebody near them needs to call CPS. IIRC, CPS can't go there unless there's a call. It would then allow them to find an excuse to take the kids, I think.

It astounds me that these men think they can get away with the murder of their spouses. Don't they read the news?

The murderer's checklist;

1. Make sure we're going through a divorce with looming custody battle.

2. Increase life insurance to some ungodly amount.

3. Create alibi. (no need to spend a lot of time on this. Cops are stupid.)

4. Think of place to dump body. (once again not a lot of thought needed here.)

5. (optional) Spend yourself into a huge debt hole.

6. (optional) Rehearse 911 call.

7. (optional) Rehearse for news camera's.

8. (optional but highly recommended) Talk briefly with police and then ask for a lawyer who can tell the media; "I have no idea why the police are saying he's not cooperating. He's answered all of their questions."

 

[Angel Who Cares]

*Adding in one post for quick easy reference!

Susan Powell: Missing Mom's Family Speaks Out (Video)
December 18, 2009 04:21 PM EST
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The police conducted its third sweep of the Powell home and removed some undisclosed items from the property, as well as a notebook from Susan&#8217;s work. They also questioned the 4 year old son, who confirmed the midnight camping trip, however the Police Captain cautioned against placing too much evidence on the child&#8217;s word. With very little assistance and a suspicious alibi from Josh Powell the police have officially named him a person of interest.

Article:
http://www./viewArticle.action?articleId=281474977953648&grpId=3659174697244816&nav=Groupspace
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Missing Mom's Dad Wants Husband's Answers
Says Patience Wearing Thin with Josh Powell; Makes Plea to Susan Powell: "Where Are You?"
Dec. 18, 2009
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Cox said Josh Powell should open up to authorities once and for all. "We've tried to stand by -- the whole family's tried to stand by Joshua and give him the time he needs to do whatever he needs," Cox told co-anchor Harry Smith, "and we're waiting for a credible answer from him, we're waiting for a credible explanation to what he knows. And he now has an attorney. He needs to give the police the information he has and he needs to help us to find Susan.

"We'be been patient. We've been supportive. We're trying to hang in there. ... The explanation he originally gave is wearing thin."

Video: Missing Mom Search Continues
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Article:
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/12/18/earlyshow/main5994518.shtml?tag=contentBody;cbsCarousel
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Missing mom&#8217;s home searched again for clues
Husband named person of interest; &#8216;I think he knows something,&#8217; dad says
updated 10:20 a.m. ET, Fri., Dec . 18, 2009
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&#8220;We served a search warrant at the house to see if there are any physical items that could shed light on this case,&#8221; West Valley City Police Capt. Tom McLachlan told NBC News. &#8220;Those items are being processed at the state crime lab.&#8221; McLachlan would not disclose what was taken from the home during the Thursday search.

Earlier in the day on Thursday, police said the behavior of Josh Powell &#8212; who has refused to cooperate in the search for his missing wife &#8212; is not normal.

&#8220;[I would] describe him as abnormal under the circumstances,&#8221; West Valley City Assistant Police Chief Craig Black said during an interview with TODAY&#8217;s Matt Lauer. &#8220;This is not normally what we see happen.&#8221;

Today Show Video: Police search missing mom&#8217;s home 6:56
Dec. 18: Yesterday, authorities in Utah searched the home of Josh and Susan Powell, who has been missing for 11 days. This comes as police named the husband a "person of interest" in the woman's disappearance. The missing woman's father speaks to TODAY's Meredith Vieira.
http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/26184891/vp/34476897#34476897

Today Show video: Missing woman&#8217;s husband named &#8216;person of interest&#8217;: 7:58
Dec. 17: Investigators in Utah say they suspect foul play in the disappearance of 28-year-old Susan Powell nearly two weeks ago, and have named her husband a person of interest. His brother-in-law talks with TODAY's Matt Lauer.
http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/26184891/vp/34460813#34460813

Video: Police Suspect Foul Play In Case Of Missing Woman 3:05
Dec. 16: The husband of a missing mom in Utah has been deemed a "person of interest" in her disappearance. NBC's Miguel Almaguer reports.
http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/26184891/vp/34450232#34450232

Today Show Video: Husband&#8217;s DNA taken in missing-woman case 3:00
Dec. 16: Investigators in the case of a mother who went missing in Utah more than a week ago took a sample of DNA from her husband. Meanwhile, the man's sister talks about her sister-in-law's disappearance. NBC's Miguel Almaguer reports.
http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/26184891/vp/34443693#34443693

Today Show Video: What happened to missing Utah mom? 5:20
Dec. 15: Susan Powell has been missing for more than a week and her husband has stopped speaking to the police. NBC's Miguel Almaguer reports on the investigation into her disappearance.
http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/26184891/vp/34428282#34428282

Today Show Video: Father speaks out in disappearance of missing woman 3:12
Dec. 15: Chuck Cox, the father of a young Utah mother who went missing more than a week ago, talks to TODAY's Natalie Morales about his daughter's family life before her disappearance and his hopes for the woman's husband and children.
http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/26184891/vp/34429383#34429383

Today Show video: Missing woman's husband in spotlight 1:10
Dec. 14: Utah authorities want to re-interview the husband of a missing woman. Msnbc's David Shuster reports.
http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/26184891/vp/34419614#34419614

Article:
http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/34460904/ns/today-today_people/
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Missing mom case: Story told by Susan Powell's husband a 'huge red flag'
Her friend says mom wouldn't have permitted young sons to go camping after midnight in freezing desert.
Updated: 12/18/2009 08:50:43 AM MST
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Officers on Thursday barricaded and searched the Powell home, dusting for fingerprints and taking items out of the house.

Detectives also are seeking cell phone records, said Assistant Police Chief Craig Black. He would not say whose cell phone records police were seeking.

Susan Powell's phone was found at home, along with her purse and keys, after her disappearance, said Michael Gifford, who is married to Shelby and accompanied Susan Powell's father, Charles Cox, to Utah to help with the investigation.

Article:
http://www.sltrib.com/news/ci_14019426
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Police request media keep footage of missing woman's husband
December 18th, 2009 @ 11:44am
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Friday morning police asked all news agencies not to destroy video of Joshua Powell. They would not say why they've made that request.

Members of Susan Powell's family say they had no indication she would have felt threatened in the marriage.

Family spokesperson Shelby Gifford said, "If we felt like Susan was in danger, as a family we would have taken steps to get her out of that situation. So some of the things you are learning this week, we are learning with you."

What role the evidence seized will play in the case is unknown as the investigation continues.

*Video Included In Article!

AUDIO: Marc Giauque reporting on the latest in the investigation
http://real.ksl.com/video/slc/3/307/30795.mp3

AUDIO: Paul Nelson reporting on Powell family press conference
http://media.bonnint.net/slc/1653/165319/16531931.mp3

AUDIO: Andrew Adams reporting on Kirk Graves' statements
http://real.ksl.com/video/slc/3/307/30796.mp3

PHOTO GALLERY:
http://www.ksl.com/index.php?sid=9062334&nid=460

Article:
http://www.ksl.com/index.php?nid=148&sid=9077062
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'Breaks our hearts' &#8212; Susan Powell's family concerned about the actions of her husband
Published: Thursday, Dec. 17, 2009 10:33 p.m. MST
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The family of Susan Powell says it is deeply saddened and it "breaks our hearts" that her husband, Josh Powell, is being called a person of interest in connection with her disappearance.

But a spokeswoman said Thursday family members are not surprised, "given the events and his reaction to them in the past week."

Also Thursday, West Valley police returned to the Powell home, 6254 W. Sarah Circle, with a search warrant to look for additional evidence. Police declined to discuss what, if anything, was taken from the house.

Article:
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/...mitted-midnight-camping-trip-family-says.html
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Family of missing Utah mom speaks out about husband
Posted on December 17, 2009 at 12:32 PM
Updated yesterday at 5:14 PM
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While Josh Powell has not been named a suspect in the case, authorities have upgraded Susan Powell's disapperance to a criminal probe and say Josh Powell's "lack of cooperation" has made them increasingly suspicious of him.

"Every lead we've been offered so far would leave us to believe this is out of character (for Susan) and thus suspect foul play is involved," West Valley City Asst. Police Chief Craig Black said Wednesday.

Josh Powell said he went camping with their boys, ages 2 and 4, in subfreezing temperatures about 12:30 a.m. on Dec. 7 and returned in the evening. But he has been uncooperative in providing any details that might explain what happened to his wife, Black said.

Video: Police Treating Utah Mom As A Criminal Case
http://www.king5.com/news/Police-treating-missing-Utah-mom-as-criminal-case-79555532.html

Raw Video: Father of missing Utah woman
http://www.king5.com/video/raw/Raw-Father-of-missing-Utah-mother-speaks-79564587.html

Raw Video: Cox family statement
http://www.king5.com/video/featured-videos/Watch-Cox-family-statement-79580057.html

&#8226;Family, friends of Susan Powell's Facebook group
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=198478842187

Article:
http://www.king5.com/news/Police-treating-missing-Utah-mom-as-criminal-case-79555532.html

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[smart blonde]

Angel Who Cares... your dedication and thouroughness, as always, is amazing! Thank you!

 

[nursebeeme]

Not moi.



:waitasec: Hmmm, makes ya think don't it.



Good thinkin. :thumb:



Somebody near them needs to call CPS. IIRC, CPS can't go there unless there's a call. It would then allow them to find an excuse to take the kids, I think.



The murderer's checklist;

1. Make sure we're going through a divorce with looming custody battle.

2. Increase life insurance to some ungodly amount.

3. Create alibi. (no need to spend a lot of time on this. Cops are stupid.)

4. Think of place to dump body. (once again not a lot of thought needed here.)

5. (optional) Spend yourself into a huge debt hole.

6. (optional) Rehearse 911 call.

7. (optional) Rehearse for news camera's.

8. (optional but highly recommended) Talk briefly with police and then ask for a lawyer who can tell the media; "I have no idea why the police are saying he's not cooperating. He's answered all of their questions."

Steely, I think your photobucket link is blowing the margins??

 

[smart blonde]

I truly feel that if Josh didn't have an attorney right now, he would break, and give up the information that the authorities need to find Susan.

I'm sure the attorney knows this, too, and this is the main reason he is keeping Josh on such a tight leash. The attorney is afraid Josh will 'spill all' if asked the right questions.

I know that the accussed has the right to representation, and I agree with that right. It's just so frustrating when a beautiful, sweet young woman and mother has vanished into thin air.

How heartbreaking that the man who promised 'before God', to love, honor and cherish her, the same man that should be screaming from the mountaintops, "Please, everyone, help me find my wife!", is instead hindering the investigation, keeping secrets.....

I just feel so badly for Susan, she truly deserves so much better. So does her family that obviously loves her so much.

 

[emmcee]

Is there any discussion of Josh showing LE his camping gear that was supposedly used? Seems like sleeping bags, warm clothes, cooking utensils, etc. would be readily available to "prove" his outing.

As far as the 4 year old saying they went camping, kids that age don't have a real good concept of time. Maybe he was remembering another camping trip at an earlier time??? Just wondering.

There is a discussion of the case over at DeseretNews.com including some comments by someone named Wayne who claims that Josh is a good friend and he's seen him lately. Obviously I have no idea if this guy is telling the truth or not, but you might be interested in the comments there. Not sure if I am allowed to post the link or not.

 

[passionflower]

I truly feel that if Josh didn't have an attorney right now, he would break, and give up the information that the authorities need to find Susan.

I'm sure the attorney knows this, too, and this is the main reason he is keeping Josh on such a tight leash. The attorney is afraid Josh will 'spill all' if asked the right questions.

I know that the accussed has the right to representation, and I agree with that right. It's just so frustrating when a beautiful, sweet young woman and mother has vanished into thin air.

How heartbreaking that the man who promised 'before God', to love, honor and cherish her, the same man that should be screaming from the mountaintops, [I]"Please, everyone, help me find my wife!", [/I]is instead hindering the investigation, keeping secrets.....
I just feel so badly for Susan, she truly deserves so much better. So does her family that obviously loves her so much.

Oh please Josh, tell her family where she is!!!!

 

[Taminator]

I'm of the firm belief that if you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear. Attorney or no attorney, if you can't even give LE simple information such as an exact location where you were camping, you have something to fear. There is no good reason as to why he should not be involved in trying to help find Susan. Unless he has something to hide. A person who has nothing to hide gives as much information as possible. A person who has nothing to hide knows where they were and when. A person who has nothing to fear will be as forthcoming as possible.

 

[emmcee]

Not a problem.

The comment at 8:53 a.m. was made by "Wayne" who supposedly knows Josh:


http://www.deseretnews.com/user/com...ed-about-the-actions-of-her-husband.html?pg=3

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[passionflower]

The comment at 8:53 a.m. was made by "Wayne" who supposedly knows Josh:


http://www.deseretnews.com/user/com...ed-about-the-actions-of-her-husband.html?pg=3

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Thanks for the link, I read most of the posts and WOW, is it the defense team trying to make Josh look like a nice guy? One called him an odd bird.
Most are on our same track!

 

[harleysnana]

Local News:
Building a Case.
One criminal subpoena targets Josh Powell.
Gathering surveillance videos.
Cell phone records.
Subpoenaed Channel 4 news for the video of Josh.
Josh Powell is the only person of interest.
Police asked him to take a LD but his attorney said no.

 

[emmcee]

. . . . . it the defense team trying to make Josh look like a nice guy? . . . . .

No question in my mind that it's the defense team defending him on there, but that's just my humble opinion. It does make for interesting reading, but I don't get the idea that he's changing anyone's minds. And yes, most of the comments are in agreement with those here on WS. It all boils down to just plain old common sense.

 

[smart blonde]

The comment at 8:53 a.m. was made by "Wayne" who supposedly knows Josh:


http://www.deseretnews.com/user/com...ed-about-the-actions-of-her-husband.html?pg=3

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Thank you for this link... very interesting comments.

One in particular made a strong point. (the following in my own words):

By all accounts, the police had to break through the window to gain access to the house, which stands to reason the doors were locked.

If Susan left on her own accord, how did she lock the front door, when her keys were still inside (if indeed the deadbolt was locked).

If Susan was abducted from the home, is it reasonable to think the abductor would lock the house behind them? (and, again, if the deadbolt was locked, they would still need a key, which was in the house).

Even when it comes to trying to cover his tracks after killing his wife, Josh is such an underachiever it is pitiful.

 

[passionflower]

I keep forgetting about the time zone, but the day isn't over in UTAH.........only 4:20pm there.

 

[hellolisakitty]

I keep forgetting about the time zone, but the day isn't over in UTAH.........only 4:20pm there.

Actually add an hour... 525pm right now, but the day is still not over!