VERDICT WATCH - Sentencing of Jodi Arias - Break 2/27 thru 3/2 #2

[TexMex]

Hmm... damage done by spin cycle? Was the camera (plus the memory card and its door) found with the sheets or by themselves?

I can't imagine a camera being damaged like that if there were also king size sheets in there.

The washer contained camera, camera door, memory card, lots of socks and a towel, a dark t shirt size medium, a pair of shorts, white underwear type shorts, sweatpants size large, t shirt size large

Dryer contents, pillow cases, a white towel, pants size large, fitted sheet, flat sheet, bed cover with buttons

 

[krkrjx]

On the subject of Cougarluscious, being rehired. I am not surprised. I don't think the state cares about the 3 way calls, the tweets and/or the art sales. They wanted, above all, someone who could babysit the special snowflake, and keep her temper in check and her tantrums under control.

I agree, they probably don't care how she does her job. And maybe she comes at a bargain-basement price compared to a real specialist in that field.

Let the state of AZ spend money as they see fit; maybe some day there will be a budget shortfall of such magnitude that the people will demand the state trim the fat. I already feel sympathy for AZ taxpayers because they have to pay to house the Arias monster for the rest of her life. How unfair that she can slither in from out of state and murder a citizen and the state has to pick up the enormous tab for it all.

 

[josie1986]

And also... if Travis were to have put the sheets in the washer, that would mean Jodi intentionally put the camera in the washing machine and, as many have speculated, she meant to take the camera with her when she left. But your post, Tiger09, made me think of something... does anyone know what color the sheets in the washer were? White or pink? I have a quick follow-up, but will first wait to I hear what color the sheets were. As always, "TIA" in advance.

well from the photos that day,the duvet looks a dark brown so im going to assume the sheet was the same colour...travis was a nice neat guy so i can't see it being all mis-matched.

thats inside the dryer but i cant see them..

 

[Truth Detector]

I wish we could read the jury instructions...

Nearly identical to the first jury's instructions, they probably read very much like this:

[FONT=&amp]You do not need to unanimously agree on a particular mitigating circumstance. Each one of you must decide individually whether any mitigating circumstance exists.

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[FONT=&amp]You are not limited to the mitigating circumstances offered by the defendant. You must also consider any other information that you find is relevant in determining whether to impose a life sentence, so long as it relates to an aspect of the defendant’s background, character, propensities, record, or circumstances of the offense.[/FONT]​

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The defendant bears the burden of proving the existence of any mitigating circumstance that the defendant offers by a preponderance of the evidence. That is, although the defendant need not prove its existence beyond a reasonable doubt, the defendant must convince you by the evidence presented that it is more probably true than not true that such a mitigating circumstance exists. In proving a mitigating circumstance, the defendant may rely on any evidence already presented and is not required to present additional evidence.[/FONT]​

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You individually determine whether mitigation exists. In light of the aggravating circumstance the previous jury found, you must then individually determine if the total of the mitigation is sufficiently substantial to call for leniency. “Sufficiently substantial to call for leniency” means that mitigation must be of such quality or value that it is adequate, in the opinion of an individual juror, to persuade that juror to vote for a sentence of life in prison.

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[FONT=&amp]Even if a juror believes that the aggravating and mitigating circumstances are of the same quality or value, that juror is not required to vote for a sentence of death and may instead vote for a sentence of life in prison. A juror may find mitigation and impose a life sentence even if the defendant does not present any mitigation evidence.[/FONT]​

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A mitigating factor that motivates one juror to vote for a sentence of life in prison may be evaluated by another juror as not having been proved or, if proved, as not significant to the assessment of the appropriate penalty. In other words, each of you must determine whether, in your individual assessment, the mitigation is of such quality or value that it warrants leniency in this case.[/FONT]​

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The law does not presume what is the appropriate sentence. The defendant does not have the burden of proving that life is the appropriate sentence. The State does not have the burden of proving that death is the appropriate sentence. It is for you, as jurors, to decide what you individually believe is the appropriate sentence.

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[FONT=&amp]In reaching a reasoned, moral judgment about which sentence is justified and appropriate, you must decide how compelling or persuasive the totality of the mitigating factors is when compared against the totality of the aggravating factors and the facts and circumstances of the case. This assessment is not a mathematical one, but instead must be made in light of each juror’s individual, qualitative evaluation of the facts of the case, the severity of the aggravating factors, and the quality of the mitigating factors found by each juror.

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[FONT=&amp]If you unanimously agree there is mitigation sufficiently substantial to call for leniency, then you shall return a verdict of life. If you unanimously agree there is no mitigation, or the mitigation is not sufficiently substantial to call for leniency, then you shall return a verdict of death.

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[FONT=&amp]Your decision is not a recommendation. Your decision is binding. If you unanimously find that the defendant should be sentenced to life imprisonment, your foreperson shall sign the verdict form indicating your decision. If you unanimously find that the defendant should be sentenced to death, your foreperson shall sign the verdict form indicating your decision.[/FONT]​

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If you cannot unanimously agree on the appropriate sentence, your foreperson shall tell the judge.[/FONT]​

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[Hope4More]

They met in Sept '06. She glommed onto him right away. Calling, texting and making demands that they meet. Of course, in JodiWorld, it was HIM doing all the pursuing. I guess maybe because he responded to her calls and texts? By October, they were having motel trysts. She was still living in the home shared with Darryl. No mention in the secret testimony of the side pieces (ie Gus Whatever). Jodi needed a new mark. One 'date' as a seat filler +1 and Travis was it. He ignored her calls for a week in Oct '06 and she refused to get the message. He could have nipped it in the bud at that point. Jodi was relentless demanding explanations. Of course, she tempered it with the soft spoken little girl voice and the guise of wanting to discuss Mormon tenets.

The secret testimony ends there. The timeline gets murky and there was no time to clarify.

Anyone know when Jodi slept under the Christmas tree? '06 or '07?

Tree: 2006. Hotel "trysts": grand total of one.

 

[Ranchgirl]

When they found the gun and knives I wondered if she was headed for Daryl's house. If he had the DVD player from her Grandparents "robbery", that would have sealed the deal with the jury. I think she was also headed to Deanne, the Hughes and Mimi/Liz for a little revenge. She definitely had someone in mind when she packed those weapons!

Wing, I think I remember during the first trial that JA testified that after leaving Darryl's house the day before the murder that she had to turn around and go back because she had a remote that she needed to return to him. Since she was at his place for a short period of time, this must have been the remote that was stolen from her grandparents along with the DVD player and gun. Anyone else remember that?

 

[absolut_alexis]

I am confused as to what role Maria De La Rosa was supposed to have played in the Arias trial. Why was she there everyday playing friend and companion to Arias? In the job description of a mitigation specialist it seems that it's to observe and make reports. What am I missing?

If JA had allocated, Maria De Le Rosa would have helped her with the statement. She is probably cuurently is there to ease communication between Jodi and her attorneys, Jodi and her family, and Jodi and the jail. Where a mitigation specialist has sway is with sentencing, so if JA didn't get the DP, the judge could be persuaded to be more lenient.

I think that is why Jodi didn't allocate, she played most of her cards with the last DP jury and didn't get it, she arrogantly assumes this jury will also not give her the DP. She has some card to play that she doesn't want anyone to know about until JSS is the one deciding her fate, she doesn't want Juan find a way to call BS on her and she doesn't want the Alexanders to be able to show Travis would have made a bigger impact in whatever area Jodi is going to say.

The mitigation specialist is a communication specialist. Not the I have seen that in this particular case. Since JA sees herself as effective communicator, she may think that just as she tried to represent herself, she can mitigate for herself. She may be preventing her team from helping her.

Which is fine with me. JA is a toxic force that poisons everything she touches. Let her apply her venom to her own wretched self.

 

[Wing Ding]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4WJfUlSf0g
Start at about 1:14. No sheets. It looks like a very small load of towels or something.

Thanks. Sounds like she used towels to clean up the bloody tile floor and not the sheets from his bed.

So unless she used the sheets to drag TA back to the shower, the sheets were probably white after washing (not pink) and only washed to remove her DNA from the fabric?

I would also have to think that, unless she was in a fog, she had to have known she had "collected" the camera with the towels she was using to clean the bloody tile floor up with, and also known it was going in the washing machine with the bloody towels.

I just don't know for sure if she intended to leave the camera in Mesa, or take a less bloodier camera with her? Who cleans up a floor with a towel and not see something the size of a camera?

 

[MissHaley]

The washer contained camera, camera door, memory card, lots of socks and a towel, a dark t shirt size medium, a pair of shorts, white underwear type shorts, sweatpants size large, t shirt size large

Dryer contents, pillow cases, a white towel, pants size large, fitted sheet, flat sheet, bed cover with buttons

Thank you! Posts keep saying sheets/bedding in washer is not correct. I posted trial link where Heather Conner is discussing what's in washer but no one cares that the bedding was in the dryer not washer.

 

[Truth Detector]

I am shocked that she was allowed to live tweet.

The media and trial observers were allowed to access any manner of social media.

LKN was reportedly on his device most of the time when JW was up.

JM rightfully called the Court's attention to JA's hypocritical double standards. While JA objected on the one hand to media and Internet coverage of the trial, with the other she and/or her proxy were doing all she could to influence and control those venues for her own purposes.

 

[PenElaine]

One thing that always puzzled me about that last heartbreaking photo - IMO, TA's eyes look nothing like they do in other photos. To me they look much darker. I'm not sure how fear affects the irises or pupils, but I do know that many drugs cause the pupils to dialate, making even the lightest eyes look dark. Wonder if Travis was tranqilized?
Ps I know there weren't any drugs found in his system, but is it possible for traces to disappear during decomposition?

 

[janx]

Thanks. Sounds like she used towels to clean up the bloody tile floor and not the sheets from his bed.

So unless she used the sheets to drag TA back to the shower, the sheets were probably white after washing (not pink) and only washed to remove her DNA from the fabric?

I would also have to think that, unless she was in a fog, she had to have known she had "collected" the camera with the towels she was using to clean the bloody tile floor up with, and also known it was going in the washing machine with the bloody towels.

I just don't know for sure if she intended to leave the camera in Mesa, or take a less bloodier camera with her? Who cleans up a floor with a towel and not see something the size of a camera?

She wanted to destroy the camera and its evidence. That's why she threw it into the washing machine. She probably didn't know that deleted photos could be recovered, but she wasn't taking any chances with that camera.

 

[TexMex]

Thanks. Sounds like she used towels to clean up the bloody tile floor and not the sheets from his bed.

So unless she used the sheets to drag TA back to the shower, the sheets were probably white after washing (not pink) and only washed to remove her DNA from the fabric?

I would also have to think that, unless she was in a fog, she had to have known she had "collected" the camera with the towels she was using to clean the bloody tile floor up with, and also known it was going in the washing machine with the bloody towels.

I just don't know for sure if she intended to leave the camera in Mesa, or take a less bloodier camera with her? Who cleans up a floor with a towel and not see something the size of a camera?

The sheets and pillowcases were dark brown.
IMO after sex and pics she washed the sheets, then moved them to the dryer.
After the murder she removed the socks she wore (did she wear some of Travis's? Did she wear more than one pair to lessen the chances of a footprint that could link her?) Was the medium t shirt hers?

 

[krkrjx]

One thing that always puzzled me about that last heartbreaking photo - IMO, TA's eyes look nothing like they do in other photos. To me they look much darker. I'm not sure how fear affects the irises or pupils, but I do know that many drugs cause the pupils to dialate, making even the lightest eyes look dark. Wonder if Travis was tranqilized?
Ps I know there weren't any drugs found in his system, but is it possible for traces to disappear during decomposition?

IMO, no tranquilizers, just based on the time constraints. I think his eyes show he is at that moment paralyzed with fear. That photo is just as haunting today as it was the first time I saw it.

 

[Truth Detector]

Thanks. Sounds like she used towels to clean up the bloody tile floor and not the sheets from his bed.

So unless she used the sheets to drag TA back to the shower, the sheets were probably white after washing (not pink) and only washed to remove her DNA from the fabric?

I would also have to think that, unless she was in a fog, she had to have known she had "collected" the camera with the towels she was using to clean the bloody tile floor up with, and also known it was going in the washing machine with the bloody towels.

I just don't know for sure if she intended to leave the camera in Mesa, or take a less bloodier camera with her? Who cleans up a floor with a towel and not see something the size of a camera?

She thinks herself so very intelligent, too clever by half in the case of the camera and the deleted images easily recovered by law enforcement.

I've always believed that the camera in the washer was an afterthought that she patted herself on the back over until the shocking realization that she'd been found out.

She was going to wash all the evidence of her presence down the drains: shower, sinks, toilet, and washer. She tossed in the camera as a safeguard to wash away her fingerprints/DNA and to destroy any remnants of digital evidence she may have forgotten to delete.

 

[Caylee Advocate]

[h=1]An Open Letter to Jodi Arias[/h]
https://emmiandpete.wordpress.com/2015/02/22/an-open-letter-to-jodi-arias/

WOW, how true was this article? I enjoyed this part. Too bad all she can receive is postcards, or I imagine someone would send it to her. She needs to read this, but IMO she just wouldn't get it. Hell awaits this chick!!!




"Do not waste a moment of your time (I know you have plenty of it in solitary confinement) worrying about Travis’ legacy. You are in no way a part of it. The words you have spoken, and lies you have told are not part of Travis Alexander. Rest assured. Maybe the limited access you have to the outside world has clouded your view of reality. But, I can tell you, with 100% certainty, his legacy is far greater, and more awesome than anything you can tarnish."





Then this:


"When you leave this world, it will be for the better. The world will literally be a better place. There will be no void left, because you are soulless, a shell of a human with $300 implants".

 

[Truth Detector]

I finally read the secret testimony. Same drivel, never taking responsibility for anything she's done wrong in relationships or any interactions. I'd say, though, at least a few of her exes are in fear she'll be released or escape at some point and come for them.

Have thought that as well, especially if there was a conspiracy (aid/abet) on any level.

She has to kill her co-conspirators first.

 

[PenElaine]

She may not have been if it wasn't for the miraculous camera, palm print and hairs on the baseboard.

I also wonder what the duct tape was used for?

OMG Elle - I had totally forgotten that hot topic from two years ago. Guess it was never resolved but I sure would love to know more...
Eta never mind. Fitness tracker. But was it found?

 

[joypath]

One thing that always puzzled me about that last heartbreaking photo - IMO, TA's eyes look nothing like they do in other photos. To me they look much darker. I'm not sure how fear affects the irises or pupils, but I do know that many drugs cause the pupils to dialate, making even the lightest eyes look dark. Wonder if Travis was tranqilized?
Ps I know there weren't any drugs found in his system, but is it possible for traces to disappear during decomposition?

BBM:

Simple answer....NO. The testing for drugs, be they therapeutic or recreational, is conducted via screening fluid (usually urine) &/or GC-MS via blood or body tissues. Testing includes the "parent" drug and metabolites (breakdown components). Trickier is the testing for ETOH as the decomposition process can/does produce ETOH.

 

[Caylee Advocate]

Why would he have been wearing a fitness tracker while he slept though? Candles need lit also.