VERDICT WATCH - Sentencing of Jodi Arias - Day 40

[tlckgram]

That's baloney. Real reason is what I'm trying to figure out.

Control freak

 

[LinasK]

Why was is SO important to her that she speak behind closed court doors?

So that her lies couldn't be picked apart. She learned from her mistake in the first trial that 18 days on the stand publicly got her convicted.

 

[daisydomino]

Hey! Where did I go? I picked the 5th of March and checked to make sure my name showed up. Now I am gone.

You can scroll through the list of names here: http://goo.gl/L9LY35 and see that the date you chose is listed.

Spoiler

VERDICT	WS username
1/28/2015	Night-owl
1/31/2015	Netbrsr
2/2/2015	TexMex
2/2/2015	peedoffinny
2/4/2015	Bravo
2/5/2015	AZLawyer
2/8/2015	Lastchance
2/9/2015
2/10/2015	hindsight2020
2/10/2015	Lastchance
2/10/2015	LisaC
2/11/2015	ohreally
2/11/2015	ohreally
2/11/2015	Meemaw12
2/12/2015	Neighbour2013
2/13/2015	NashBridges2
2/13/2015	Nali87
2/13/2015	magnolia
2/13/2015	lauraoh
2/13/2015	deedee21
2/14/2015	sharpar
2/16/2015
2/17/2015	Kakidoll
2/18/2015	Snowshuze
2/18/2015	Holidayy
2/18/2015	Night-owl
2/19/2015	whisperofwings
2/19/2015	Alice253
2/19/2015	RadarLuv
2/19/2015	angelrae
2/20/2015	MeeBee
2/20/2015	Salberg7
2/20/2015	Salberg7
2/20/2015	Susza
2/23/2015	Steelman
2/23/2015	Azriell
2/24/2015	WorryWart
2/24/2015	sumbunny
2/25/2015	shajon123
2/25/2015	zebra
2/26/2015	Hope4More
2/26/2015	peedoffinny
2/26/2015
2/26/2015	gerryl42
2/26/2015	TupeloMz
2/26/2015	Jinkasaurus
2/26/2015	Ajjeana
2/26/2015
2/26/2015	Luvrosco
2/26/2015	Mollyandme
2/26/2015
2/26/2015	STEADFAST
2/26/2015	ohreally
2/26/2015	Chelly
2/26/2015	Iaminterested
2/26/2015
2/27/2015	slinkpod
2/27/2015	Miss Judy
2/27/2015	Dr. Know?
2/27/2015	lisalei321
2/27/2015	wenwe4
2/28/2015	myvice
2/28/2015	Dmacky ; )
3/1/2015	LaLaw2000
3/1/2015	oceanblueeyes
3/1/2015	mistym
3/2/2015	cavvy
3/2/2015	mesnowmom123
3/2/2015	Coltsfan
3/2/2015	Carolee26
3/2/2015	Caylee Advocate
3/2/2015	jabberwocky
3/2/2015	Sandetoze
3/2/2015	JSR
3/3/2015	bamcaan
3/3/2015	Tillicum
3/3/2015	Iaminterested
3/3/2015	fillymj
3/3/2015	wenwe4
3/3/2015	TexMex
3/4/2015	Tsitra01
3/4/2015	boomster
3/4/2015	ICit
3/4/2015	Itsy
3/4/2015	kaRN
3/4/2015	Alisha8191
3/4/2015	ICit
3/4/2015	mugwump*
3/4/2015	TXredhead178
3/5/2015	Dmacky
3/5/2015	Luvrosco
3/5/2015	Sweet Fox
3/5/2015	Zuri
3/5/2015	Paintr
3/6/2015	WhoaIsMe
3/6/2015	amster
3/6/2015	ljwf22
3/6/2015	Jaykayelle
3/6/2015	Sweet Fox
3/7/2015	shajon123
3/7/2015
3/10/2015	G&A Mom
3/10/2015	Buttercup117
3/10/2015	Buttercup117
3/11/2015	east2west
3/11/2015	oceanblueeyes
3/11/2015	KPinMN
3/12/2015	Caylee Advocate
3/13/2015	jane the dood
3/13/2015	Moonchime
3/13/2015	tiger09
3/13/2015	little ole me
3/13/2015	LaLaw2000
3/13/2015	Muffin
3/13/2015	sharpar
3/14/2015	LaLaw2000
3/14/2015	Koozit
3/15/2015	Jamais
3/15/2015	Kadoober
3/15/2015	Wagara
3/16/2015	LaLaw2000
3/16/2015	smartsmom
3/17/2015	geevee
3/17/2015	Irisha
3/17/2015	cindymac
3/17/2015	tdoc72
3/17/2015	PenElaine
3/17/2015	Tdoc72
3/18/2015	CayleeAdvocate
3/18/2015	Mystymiss
3/18/2015	franquerolane
3/18/2015	GarthMax
3/18/2015	wing560
3/18/2015	GigiG
3/18/2015	KPinMN
3/18/2015	hello clarice
3/19/2015	Unique
3/19/2015	angelainwi
3/19/2015	watergirl
3/19/2015	Bluewater_Girl
3/20/2015	cindysnow3
3/21/2015	Debidot
3/21/2015	Debidot
3/23/2015	AngelWings444
3/24/2015	Robyn623
3/24/2015	erma285
3/24/2015	Retrofit
3/25/2015	staycalm
3/25/2015	tiger09
3/25/2015	in search of
3/26/2015	elementary
3/26/2015
3/26/2015	MaryND
3/26/2015	Renee110
3/27/2015	cnewman
3/27/2015	Gilligan
3/27/2015	parrotgal
3/27/2015	Mosby
3/30/2015	elleni
3/30/2015	smeck
3/31/2015	YESorNO
3/31/2015	niner
3/31/2015	MindMatters
3/31/2015	IfIMay
4/1/2015	Marshmallow
4/1/2015	byo
4/1/2015	MsJosie
4/1/2015	Steely Dan
4/1/2015	SuzDuJour
4/1/2015	poprocks
4/1/2015	boytwnmom
4/1/2015	weebles
4/1/2015	Wizzy
4/3/2015	Bernina
4/3/2015	Wolfpack Fan
4/5/2015	gogrannypop
4/8/2015	janx
4/8/2015	DebinGA
4/8/2015	Ranchgirl
4/8/2015	terrsa
4/10/2015	FinallyRegistered
4/13/2015	Charterhouse
4/15/2015	Curious in Indiana
4/15/2015	pinkandgreenmom
4/15/2015	Soulsad
4/15/2015
4/15/2015	mistym
4/18/2015	Renee110
4/18/2015	Wysteria
4/19/2015	runningwater
4/20/2015	Hatfield
4/20/2015	tcrockett
4/20/2015	sassyblue
4/21/2015
4/21/2015	Ruby
4/21/2015	hello clarice
4/27/2015	sjs323
4/28/2015	~ Amy ~
4/29/2015	Moonchime
5/1/2015	wendiesan
5/2/2015	Foghorn
5/6/2015	Turtles
5/6/2015	cricket49
5/8/2015	Grammieto5
5/8/2015	ransom
5/8/2015	ILikeToBendPages
5/13/2015	zqtpie
5/14/2015	zqtpie
5/15/2015	daisydomino
5/15/2015	Frigga
5/28/2015	nowayout
6/4/2015	TxJan1971
6/4/2015
6/4/2015	rr0004
6/4/2015	elleelle
6/6/2015	memoriesbymichelle
6/10/2015	rose222
6/25/2015	TorisMom003
7/9/2015	Kolokolo
9/30/2015	gerryl42
10/26/2015	nonobadkitty
11/10/2015	Alisha8191
1/1/2016
4/9/2016	Swabby

You're there for 3/5

 

[franquerolane]

Life or death: which verdict would you choose?

Poll here: http://goo.gl/forms/Dmrfuv0mje

I did the vote, but what is a nick?

 

[RickshawFan]

Those with BPD have trouble regulating their emotions. They have no control over them. Things that make them angry send them into a rage (which is why we hear so much about her violent outbursts), things that make her happy, elevated and things that make her sad send her into despair, thus the dark journal entries and references to suicide. It's probably all she could do to hold it together while the cameras were present, which is why she had to detach by drawing and pretending sheb couldn't hear the person on the stand somtimes. After court is probably when the emotions came out, like when people could hear her yelling after the guilty verdict in another room.

imo.

Are you talking about Bipolar or Borderline personality disorder?

I'll speak for MeeBee! She's talking about Borderline Personality Disorder and emotion regulation, not Bipolar and mood regulation. Bipolars do not switch on a dime like this in affect, generally speaking. Their switches can be days, months, even years apart. Some people get rapid-cycling, but it's not that common and, IIRC it's a serious emergency. In bipolars, the mood changes can also be smoothed out with medication, generally speaking.

"Mania" does not = euphoria, by the way. IMO, it just refers to the brain going extra fast: a person in this phase can come across as being extremely irritable and not at all happy.

By the way, a bipolar suicide most often comes in the manic phase, not the depressive phase.

Despite any of this—bipolar or BPD—folks with mental health conditions and personality disorders are responsible for their behavior as adults, or at least to make a good faith effort to be doing so. Personally, I have very little sympathy for folks who do not see to this responsibility. I doubt Jodi ever got treatment for herself or ever would have, doesn't care to even now, and has never been compliant about taking her meds. She has never wanted to take responsibility for anything, blaming it always on someone else; you can't have that attitude and manage BPD or bipolar. She has an obligation, like the rest of us, not to inflict herself on her community.

IMO the characteristic of Jodi always to blame someone else has nothing to do with BPD or bipolar. It's not even manipulative: it just is.

Regarding Jodi's detachment when things are being said that she doesn't want to hear, I think those are just times she doesn't want to hear and don't reflect any mental disorder. She claims she gets in a fog, but never acts like she's in one, e.g. yesterday when she had a discussion with the judge about allocution. In the first trial, she never appeared dissociated, either in Juan's cross, answering the jury questions, or in allocution.

 

[Truth Detector]

Total response by gender:

Death vote by gender:

I can't figure out how to get the second chart to update in real time, but the first one does.

If you have not yet voted in the "Life or Death" poll, click here.

Love the prison background for the poll, Daisy.

 

[ILikeToBendPages]

I think no verdict today means no DP.... :twocents:

I hope I am very wrong.

Maybe they wanted to sleep on it. Pray about it. That someone needs to tell Nurmi and Darryl that Jodi hasn't been a girl in over twenty years. Yeah she had what she called a s**** life, but so do many more and they don't kill. I hope they see Jodi as her stalking grows bolder and dangerous.

 

[garthmax]

It really is sickening. It's the same mistake the DT has made over and over. They don't know when to make a point, or rebut a PT point, without going overboard.

Another example of this today, is KN addressing the business email that went to the 9 year old girl. He said Dr. F. relied on sufficient evidence, other than this email, to form her opinions. Instead of leaving it there (the best he should do for damage control) and in spite of the father's testimony, he suggested that there was still something nefarious involved.

The jury members haven't missed these blatant exaggerations. They only serve to diminish the credibility of anything that the DT has asked them to believe. As infuriating as it is, I am confident that these tactics have done significant harm to the defense.

The more I think about today's closing, CMJA had to have some input. These were things that she wanted everyone to know and no one to forget. She was even getting back at Skye. THIS WAS TOTALLY CMJA TODAY.

 

[Soulsad]

I thought I had too. Now that I think back, I think I put my choice sometime in April.
Knowing me, I put April FOOL'S day but I'm not sure.

ETA
This is a reply for 'sumbunny'.
I don't know what happened.

 

[Truth Detector]

Oh I'm quite sure the Prosecutorial Misconduct motion about Juan wanting to look at nude pictures of Jodi came from Jodi herself. She thinks she's a goddess that no man can resist.

Well, she smells like one, don't you know?

:silly:

 

[daisydomino]

I did the vote, but what is a nick?

Oh, sorry that wasn't clear! Nickname or WS user name.

 

[daisydomino]

I thought I had too. Now that I think back, I think I put my choice sometime in April.
Knowing me, I put April FOOL'S day but I'm not sure.

ETA
This is a reply for 'sumbunny'.
I don't know what happened.

You're on for 4/15

 

[okiedokietoo]

Could be they took a vote and it was unanimous, but didn't want to appear that they rushed etc

 

[Petalwings]

Life or death: which verdict would you choose?

Poll here: http://goo.gl/forms/Dmrfuv0mje

Interesting results. Wondering if the people who voted for life are against capital punishment in all circumstances or if they believe there are mitigating factors in this case.

 

[Smarty Jones]

I wrote the original post that this was implied to, and I did not say that older people are prudish. I was trying to get an idea of the makeup of the jury, and I was saying that I believe most people (of all ages) are so exposed to sex and sexual implications that all the sex talk doesn't seem that scandalous and is a useless argument for the defense.

Sorry, I was replying to another poster who commented on my 'boomer sexual revolution' comment. I was expounding on what you said about current sexual exposure in society, as to the history of when it started.

 

[Tricia]

Hi Everyone,

Don't know about you, but I can't believe this mess has finally ended and now we wait for the jury.

In the meantime I need you all to please remember this thread is about the Jodi Arias re-sentencing trial.

Please do not comment on Beth Karas and why you like or dislike her site. That's not what this discussion is about.

I have pulled the Beth Karas thread for review. That thread was originally started to discuss how to join Beth's site and to discuss things Beth said on her site that would be of interest to everyone.

When I put the thread back please do not use it to discuss anything negative about Beth's site.

Your complaints need to be taken up by Beth and her moderators/tech people.

Thank you for sticking with Websleuths throughout this beyond long trial of Jodi Arias.

Travis Alexander was truly a wonderful person. Travis and his loved ones deserve the justice they desire for Jodi. Let's hope the jury gives them what Travis and his loved ones deserve. IMO of course.

Tricia

 

[TxJan1971]

Interesting results. Wondering if the 8 for life are against death penalty.

I was wondering the same thing.

 

[tlckgram]

http://ktar.com/305/1776840/Legally-Speaking-Who-are-the-jurors-deciding-the-fate-of-Jodi-Arias

Juror description for anyone who missed it.

 

[Caylee Advocate]

For those of you who may not have watched this, it is a video from a former guard @ Perryville prison relaying what life for CMJA will be like.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJTBLd-72fg

 

[Paintr]

You can scroll through the list of names here: http://goo.gl/L9LY35 and see that the date you chose is listed.

Spoiler

VERDICT	WS username
1/28/2015	Night-owl
1/31/2015	Netbrsr
2/2/2015	TexMex
2/2/2015	peedoffinny
2/4/2015	Bravo
2/5/2015	AZLawyer
2/8/2015	Lastchance
2/9/2015
2/10/2015	hindsight2020
2/10/2015	Lastchance
2/10/2015	LisaC
2/11/2015	ohreally
2/11/2015	ohreally
2/11/2015	Meemaw12
2/12/2015	Neighbour2013
2/13/2015	NashBridges2
2/13/2015	Nali87
2/13/2015	magnolia
2/13/2015	lauraoh
2/13/2015	deedee21
2/14/2015	sharpar
2/16/2015
2/17/2015	Kakidoll
2/18/2015	Snowshuze
2/18/2015	Holidayy
2/18/2015	Night-owl
2/19/2015	whisperofwings
2/19/2015	Alice253
2/19/2015	RadarLuv
2/19/2015	angelrae
2/20/2015	MeeBee
2/20/2015	Salberg7
2/20/2015	Salberg7
2/20/2015	Susza
2/23/2015	Steelman
2/23/2015	Azriell
2/24/2015	WorryWart
2/24/2015	sumbunny
2/25/2015	shajon123
2/25/2015	zebra
2/26/2015	Hope4More
2/26/2015	peedoffinny
2/26/2015
2/26/2015	gerryl42
2/26/2015	TupeloMz
2/26/2015	Jinkasaurus
2/26/2015	Ajjeana
2/26/2015
2/26/2015	Luvrosco
2/26/2015	Mollyandme
2/26/2015
2/26/2015	STEADFAST
2/26/2015	ohreally
2/26/2015	Chelly
2/26/2015	Iaminterested
2/26/2015
2/27/2015	slinkpod
2/27/2015	Miss Judy
2/27/2015	Dr. Know?
2/27/2015	lisalei321
2/27/2015	wenwe4
2/28/2015	myvice
2/28/2015	Dmacky ; )
3/1/2015	LaLaw2000
3/1/2015	oceanblueeyes
3/1/2015	mistym
3/2/2015	cavvy
3/2/2015	mesnowmom123
3/2/2015	Coltsfan
3/2/2015	Carolee26
3/2/2015	Caylee Advocate
3/2/2015	jabberwocky
3/2/2015	Sandetoze
3/2/2015	JSR
3/3/2015	bamcaan
3/3/2015	Tillicum
3/3/2015	Iaminterested
3/3/2015	fillymj
3/3/2015	wenwe4
3/3/2015	TexMex
3/4/2015	Tsitra01
3/4/2015	boomster
3/4/2015	ICit
3/4/2015	Itsy
3/4/2015	kaRN
3/4/2015	Alisha8191
3/4/2015	ICit
3/4/2015	mugwump*
3/4/2015	TXredhead178
3/5/2015	Dmacky
3/5/2015	Luvrosco
3/5/2015	Sweet Fox
3/5/2015	Zuri
3/5/2015	Paintr
3/6/2015	WhoaIsMe
3/6/2015	amster
3/6/2015	ljwf22
3/6/2015	Jaykayelle
3/6/2015	Sweet Fox
3/7/2015	shajon123
3/7/2015
3/10/2015	G&A Mom
3/10/2015	Buttercup117
3/10/2015	Buttercup117
3/11/2015	east2west
3/11/2015	oceanblueeyes
3/11/2015	KPinMN
3/12/2015	Caylee Advocate
3/13/2015	jane the dood
3/13/2015	Moonchime
3/13/2015	tiger09
3/13/2015	little ole me
3/13/2015	LaLaw2000
3/13/2015	Muffin
3/13/2015	sharpar
3/14/2015	LaLaw2000
3/14/2015	Koozit
3/15/2015	Jamais
3/15/2015	Kadoober
3/15/2015	Wagara
3/16/2015	LaLaw2000
3/16/2015	smartsmom
3/17/2015	geevee
3/17/2015	Irisha
3/17/2015	cindymac
3/17/2015	tdoc72
3/17/2015	PenElaine
3/17/2015	Tdoc72
3/18/2015	CayleeAdvocate
3/18/2015	Mystymiss
3/18/2015	franquerolane
3/18/2015	GarthMax
3/18/2015	wing560
3/18/2015	GigiG
3/18/2015	KPinMN
3/18/2015	hello clarice
3/19/2015	Unique
3/19/2015	angelainwi
3/19/2015	watergirl
3/19/2015	Bluewater_Girl
3/20/2015	cindysnow3
3/21/2015	Debidot
3/21/2015	Debidot
3/23/2015	AngelWings444
3/24/2015	Robyn623
3/24/2015	erma285
3/24/2015	Retrofit
3/25/2015	staycalm
3/25/2015	tiger09
3/25/2015	in search of
3/26/2015	elementary
3/26/2015
3/26/2015	MaryND
3/26/2015	Renee110
3/27/2015	cnewman
3/27/2015	Gilligan
3/27/2015	parrotgal
3/27/2015	Mosby
3/30/2015	elleni
3/30/2015	smeck
3/31/2015	YESorNO
3/31/2015	niner
3/31/2015	MindMatters
3/31/2015	IfIMay
4/1/2015	Marshmallow
4/1/2015	byo
4/1/2015	MsJosie
4/1/2015	Steely Dan
4/1/2015	SuzDuJour
4/1/2015	poprocks
4/1/2015	boytwnmom
4/1/2015	weebles
4/1/2015	Wizzy
4/3/2015	Bernina
4/3/2015	Wolfpack Fan
4/5/2015	gogrannypop
4/8/2015	janx
4/8/2015	DebinGA
4/8/2015	Ranchgirl
4/8/2015	terrsa
4/10/2015	FinallyRegistered
4/13/2015	Charterhouse
4/15/2015	Curious in Indiana
4/15/2015	pinkandgreenmom
4/15/2015	Soulsad
4/15/2015
4/15/2015	mistym
4/18/2015	Renee110
4/18/2015	Wysteria
4/19/2015	runningwater
4/20/2015	Hatfield
4/20/2015	tcrockett
4/20/2015	sassyblue
4/21/2015
4/21/2015	Ruby
4/21/2015	hello clarice
4/27/2015	sjs323
4/28/2015	~ Amy ~
4/29/2015	Moonchime
5/1/2015	wendiesan
5/2/2015	Foghorn
5/6/2015	Turtles
5/6/2015	cricket49
5/8/2015	Grammieto5
5/8/2015	ransom
5/8/2015	ILikeToBendPages
5/13/2015	zqtpie
5/14/2015	zqtpie
5/15/2015	daisydomino
5/15/2015	Frigga
5/28/2015	nowayout
6/4/2015	TxJan1971
6/4/2015
6/4/2015	rr0004
6/4/2015	elleelle
6/6/2015	memoriesbymichelle
6/10/2015	rose222
6/25/2015	TorisMom003
7/9/2015	Kolokolo
9/30/2015	gerryl42
10/26/2015	nonobadkitty
11/10/2015	Alisha8191
1/1/2016
4/9/2016	Swabby

You're there for 3/5

Thank goodness! I thought that I had become invisible! :biggrin: Thank you kindly, Daisy, for finding me.