Where are the 2 LITTLE GIRLS seen with PG?

[SunnieRN]

Except that the real age of this girl would be 81/2 currently...

Children vary in size. I see 4-6 year olds that can be 4 or 5" different in height and 20 lbs difference in weight. The ages of the witnesses were estimates. Believe me, I am not in any way saying that I am even close to finding a solution, but thought there might be other possibilities in ways we could help.

 

[SunnieRN]

Here is her sister who would be 9 or 10 now:

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/k/kirkpatrick_shaina.html

 

[Tizzle]

One possibility

http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/kidnap/henson.htm

Shausha's link provides a link to her sister Shaina. The link to Shaina at this site says she was born 4/27/97 which would make her 12 now.:waitasec:

Here is her sister who would be 9 or 10 now:

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/k/kirkpatrick_shaina.html

This one says 4/22/99 which would make her 10.:waitasec:

 

[human]

Maybe not all of the LE in the area are corrupt, but they live by a code of brotherhood.

 

[Natal]

I'm confused as to why they would have jurisdiction over the F.B.I. :waitasec:I know for a fact that the F.B.I. has a cyber-crime division...

They don't have jurisdiction. This is purely a domestic case, there is no Interpol involvement at all. In any case, Interpol is basically an organization to co-ordinate information and co-operation between national police forces, not much else.

 

[JusticeForVictims]

I want to help explain that Interpol does get involved in cases World Wide..
If asked and if they see a direct link in a crime.
None of us have any idea if there is a child *advertiser censored* connection to this case.
But if there is they will assist FBI & any other fact finding LE involved in the case.

There is nothing wrong with asking them to research & assist FBI to pool their details.

If you are interested please read up on it & other international cases it is very educating.

As quoted from the Interpol Link:
Children are the most vulnerable individuals in our society; they are also the most precious commodity that the world has and have a right to be protected from all forms of abuse. INTERPOL as an organization is also committed to eradicating the sexual abuse of children and has passed several resolutions making crimes against children one of International policing top priorities.

http://www.interpol.int/Public/Children/Default.asp

INTERPOL’s Specialist Group on Crimes against Children focuses on four different arenas; commercial exploitation and trafficking in Children; sex offenders; serious violent crimes against children and child *advertiser censored*, and represent a worldwide forum of specialist dealing with this type of crimes.

 

[kbl8201]

I want to help explain that Interpol does get involved in cases World Wide..
If asked and if they see a direct link in a crime.
None of us have any idea if there is a child *advertiser censored* connection to this case.
But if there is they will assist FBI & any other fact finding LE involved in the case.

There is nothing wrong with asking them to research & assist FBI to pool their details.

If you are interested please read up on it & other international cases it is very educating.

As quoted from the Interpol Link:
Children are the most vulnerable individuals in our society; they are also the most precious commodity that the world has and have a right to be protected from all forms of abuse. INTERPOL as an organization is also committed to eradicating the sexual abuse of children and has passed several resolutions making crimes against children one of International policing top priorities.

http://www.interpol.int/Public/Children/Default.asp

INTERPOL’s Specialist Group on Crimes against Children focuses on four different arenas; commercial exploitation and trafficking in Children; sex offenders; serious violent crimes against children and child *advertiser censored*, and represent a worldwide forum of specialist dealing with this type of crimes.

if someone can help we need all the help we can get

 

[Billylee]

"I found, so far, ten pages front and back of checks…written to Phillip Garrido," said Linda. "I found some of his money, being spent on the website…a *advertiser censored* website."
Financial records show in 2008 that his account was used regularly to visit an adult website. But Medeiros said he never used the internet.

Just three weeks before Garrido's arrest in the Dugard abduction, the bank cashed a check made out to Garrido's So-Called God's Desire Church for $2,000.

Antioch Police told CBS 5 that they interviewed Mr. Medeiros at least a year ago, and at that time he admitted the missing money was a loan to Phillip Garrido. So with that, the District Attorney decided to not file charges.
But CBS 5 took some canceled checks that appeared to have different handwriting to an expert. He didn't have to look through the magnifying lens long to find glaring discrepancies in the checks. Some of those checks appeared to have been written to look as if they came from an elderly person, but Medeiros said he never wrote them.


Okay so if Garrido was using Jack's money AND Jack's computer, then Garrido COULD have ties to internet *advertiser censored*. However, if Jack had a computer, and it was HIS. and if he never went on the internet, what was he doing with it? Also, the article said that this Linda person "found money being spent" on the *advertiser censored* website. Maybe Jack just liked to visit *advertiser censored* sites himself??? I do not doubt for one minute that Garrido would use Jack's money, he is a USER as well as a loser! But, at least here in Oregon, I know that if you for one minute are suspected of elderly abuse, your *advertiser censored* is dragged into court and you have to prove otherwise. I would guess, that Phillip Garrido, even if Jack said he loaned him the money, would have finally been "on the radar" had anyone thought he was financially abusing this guy. If the DA had decided to press charges, he would have had to go to court to prove otherwise. Is this another case of negligence in LE??? And I would really like to know who this "Linda" was and why she doesn't want people to know what she does.

 

[songline]

Interpol can definitely take the case in a positive direction!!

I also had another idea. Maybe we should also try to focus on WHO these children might be. If in 2006 the witness to the children in the backyard stated the younger girls were 4, maybe we should start searching missing children reports for infants and chilren taken from 2000 until 2006. We would be searching for a needle in a haystack (or 2 for that matter), but there is a possibility that they could have been kidnapped at some point. I know other possibilities have been brought up also, but what does everyone think about starting a search?

I would not know where to begin...Honestly..
I read somewhere that Madelyn the girl taken at a resort
Cant remember it... but her parents had renewed hope hearing about little girls.

 

[songline]

I don't really feel that there is much more that can be done from a civilian standpoint. But it wouldn't be civilians using the database, it would be the agency. (Personally, that is one database I am perfectly happy not to have access to.)
Having gathered everything that I felt could be gathered from "out here", it was worth a shot to hand it over to the people that have the big guns, like subpoenas and warrants and all kinds of cool stuff that we don't have.
If it goes somewhere, great, if not, there really isn't much more that can be done.

Thank you for your diligence. that was great.
I have not had time but I Will do it too, I really cant see how it may help, I sure know it can not hurt.

 

[kbl8201]

I would not know where to begin...Honestly..
I read somewhere that Madelyn the girl taken at a resort
Cant remember it... but her parents had renewed hope hearing about little girls.

maybe if she bothered to stop partying all for 15 minutes and checked on her kids madylen wouldnt be gone

 

[songline]

I want to help explain that Interpol does get involved in cases World Wide..
If asked and if they see a direct link in a crime.
None of us have any idea if there is a child *advertiser censored* connection to this case.
But if there is they will assist FBI & any other fact finding LE involved in the case.

There is nothing wrong with asking them to research & assist FBI to pool their details.

If you are interested please read up on it & other international cases it is very educating.

As quoted from the Interpol Link:
Children are the most vulnerable individuals in our society; they are also the most precious commodity that the world has and have a right to be protected from all forms of abuse. INTERPOL as an organization is also committed to eradicating the sexual abuse of children and has passed several resolutions making crimes against children one of International policing top priorities.

http://www.interpol.int/Public/Children/Default.asp

INTERPOL’s Specialist Group on Crimes against Children focuses on four different arenas; commercial exploitation and trafficking in Children; sex offenders; serious violent crimes against children and child *advertiser censored*, and represent a worldwide forum of specialist dealing with this type of crimes.

GREAT INFORMATION, thank you.

 

[my2sisters]

"I found, so far, ten pages front and back of checks…written to Phillip Garrido," said Linda. "I found some of his money, being spent on the website…a *advertiser censored* website."
Financial records show in 2008 that his account was used regularly to visit an adult website. But Medeiros said he never used the internet.

Just three weeks before Garrido's arrest in the Dugard abduction, the bank cashed a check made out to Garrido's So-Called God's Desire Church for $2,000.

Antioch Police told CBS 5 that they interviewed Mr. Medeiros at least a year ago, and at that time he admitted the missing money was a loan to Phillip Garrido. So with that, the District Attorney decided to not file charges.
But CBS 5 took some canceled checks that appeared to have different handwriting to an expert. He didn't have to look through the magnifying lens long to find glaring discrepancies in the checks. Some of those checks appeared to have been written to look as if they came from an elderly person, but Medeiros said he never wrote them.


Okay so if Garrido was using Jack's money AND Jack's computer, then Garrido COULD have ties to internet *advertiser censored*. However, if Jack had a computer, and it was HIS. and if he never went on the internet, what was he doing with it? Also, the article said that this Linda person "found money being spent" on the *advertiser censored* website. Maybe Jack just liked to visit *advertiser censored* sites himself??? I do not doubt for one minute that Garrido would use Jack's money, he is a USER as well as a loser! But, at least here in Oregon, I know that if you for one minute are suspected of elderly abuse, your *advertiser censored* is dragged into court and you have to prove otherwise. I would guess, that Phillip Garrido, even if Jack said he loaned him the money, would have finally been "on the radar" had anyone thought he was financially abusing this guy. If the DA had decided to press charges, he would have had to go to court to prove otherwise. Is this another case of negligence in LE??? And I would really like to know who this "Linda" was and why she doesn't want people to know what she does.

There's a [ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=89628"]thread[/ame] Elderly Man Broke After Friendship With Garrido

 

[songline]

maybe if she bothered to stop partying all for 15 minutes and checked on her kids madylen wouldn't be gone

I don't want to go off topic but different cultures - do things differently, my parent used to do it too. it was safe. But it was in another Country, and Madelyn's parents are also not from this country. IT IS DEFINITLY A VERY DIFFERENT CULTURE. In many parts of the world.

 

[songline]

"I found, so far, ten pages front and back of checks…written to Phillip Garrido," said Linda. "I found some of his money, being spent on the website…a *advertiser censored* website."
Financial records show in 2008 that his account was used regularly to visit an adult website. But Medeiros said he never used the internet.

Just three weeks before Garrido's arrest in the Dugard abduction, the bank cashed a check made out to Garrido's So-Called God's Desire Church for $2,000.

Antioch Police told CBS 5 that they interviewed Mr. Medeiros at least a year ago, and at that time he admitted the missing money was a loan to Phillip Garrido. So with that, the District Attorney decided to not file charges.
But CBS 5 took some canceled checks that appeared to have different handwriting to an expert. He didn't have to look through the magnifying lens long to find glaring discrepancies in the checks. Some of those checks appeared to have been written to look as if they came from an elderly person, but Medeiros said he never wrote them.


Okay so if Garrido was using Jack's money AND Jack's computer, then Garrido COULD have ties to internet *advertiser censored*. However, if Jack had a computer, and it was HIS. and if he never went on the internet, what was he doing with it? Also, the article said that this Linda person "found money being spent" on the *advertiser censored* website. Maybe Jack just liked to visit *advertiser censored* sites himself??? I do not doubt for one minute that Garrido would use Jack's money, he is a USER as well as a loser! But, at least here in Oregon, I know that if you for one minute are suspected of elderly abuse, your *advertiser censored* is dragged into court and you have to prove otherwise. I would guess, that Phillip Garrido, even if Jack said he loaned him the money, would have finally been "on the radar" had anyone thought he was financially abusing this guy. If the DA had decided to press charges, he would have had to go to court to prove otherwise. Is this another case of negligence in LE??? And I would really like to know who this "Linda" was and why she doesn't want people to know what she does.

THIS IS A KEEPER POST WE ALL NEED THIS ONE IF WE CONTACT ANYONE ABOUT THE GIRLS.
Thank you Billy.

 

[kbl8201]

I don't want to go off topic but different cultures - do things differently, my parent used to do it too. it was safe. But it was in another Country, and Madelyn's parents are also not from this country. IT IS DEFINITLY A VERY DIFFERENT CULTURE. In many parts of the world.

sorry that thing just makes me angry. i dont think her parents were involved. but it's not like jaycee going out to the bus stop on a normal day and carl watching her from the garage.......there behavior, and not even having a nanny or anyone to look after the kids is despicable

 

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[Natal]

I want to help explain that Interpol does get involved in cases World Wide..
If asked and if they see a direct link in a crime.
None of us have any idea if there is a child *advertiser censored* connection to this case.
But if there is they will assist FBI & any other fact finding LE involved in the case.

There is nothing wrong with asking them to research & assist FBI to pool their details.

They won't get involved unless the FBI specifically asks them (their constitution doesnt allow it), and even then it would be to supply requested information only. The FBI won't ask them for assistance unless they have reason to believe that crimes were commited in part outside of the US, and if the FBI knew where that crime occurred, they would contact that country's police force directly.

 

[not_my_kids]

They don't have jurisdiction. This is purely a domestic case, there is no Interpol involvement at all. In any case, Interpol is basically an organization to co-ordinate information and co-operation between national police forces, not much else.

Patently untrue. Read the information that I and other posters provided on INTERPOL.

 

[songline]

Children vary in size. I see 4-6 year olds that can be 4 or 5" different in height and 20 lbs difference in weight. The ages of the witnesses were estimates. Believe me, I am not in any way saying that I am even close to finding a solution, but thought there might be other possibilities in ways we could help.

the first sighting they were 4&5 then 6 months before the SOB was arrested we heard he has been seen with 6&7 year olds. SOUNDS like it is possibly the same girls so if they were 6&7 only 6 Months before he got arrested then then they are still close to that age.