stargazer17
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Does anyone have the link to the clip where a school mate was interviewed? It was very short but I remember seeing it and wanted to look at it again. TIA!
Suicide occurs at a far higher rate than murder, and that may have played in to the dispatcher’s assumption that this was a possible suicide attempt.
As for a vehicle perhaps passing police on their way to the scene, it’s certainly possible.
Fortunately, dashboard cameras would likely clear this up for them.
Barron County also had a very similar call last October. The second paragraph below is almost verbatim what Fitzgerald has said in Jayme's case.Suicide occurs at a far higher rate than murder, and that may have played in to the dispatcher’s assumption that this was a possible suicide attempt.
As for a vehicle perhaps passing police on their way to the scene, it’s certainly possible.
Fortunately, dashboard cameras would likely clear this up for them.
Escaping a violent murder scene just 7 minutes max in front of law enforcement and appear to be clean away 12 days later. I hope they are following a line of enquiryTwelve days is worrying
New here. I also questioned why they assumed suicide. That struck me as so odd. Was it because LE does not imagine a murder happening, so they immediately think suicide? Or was it something they heard on 911 call that made them think this? Recently they said they could only make out the word "help" so I don't think the 911 call made them think suicide. The reason I bring up the suicide angle is that if LE thought they were going to a suicide call, they may not have noticed a car(s) leaving the scene and may have passed a car fleeing. 4 minutes to escape on those roads without being noticed made me think they escaped on foot and were maybe staying hidden nearby. But now that it is maybe 9 minutes, and town is not that far, I suppose a car(s) could get away without being noticed within 9 minutes.
New here. I also questioned why they assumed suicide. That struck me as so odd. Was it because LE does not imagine a murder happening, so they immediately think suicide? Or was it something they heard on 911 call that made them think this? Recently they said they could only make out the word "help" so I don't think the 911 call made them think suicide. The reason I bring up the suicide angle is that if LE thought they were going to a suicide call, they may not have noticed a car(s) leaving the scene and may have passed a car fleeing. 4 minutes to escape on those roads without being noticed made me think they escaped on foot and were maybe staying hidden nearby. But now that it is maybe 9 minutes, and town is not that far, I suppose a car(s) could get away without being noticed within 9 minutes.
Ummmmmm........are they certain this was a murder suicide?Barron County also had a very similar call last October. The second paragraph below is almost verbatim what Fitzgerald has said in Jayme's case.
UPDATE: Deputies rule Chetek deaths a murder-suicide
Investigators say 55 year-old John Hengst shot and killed his ex-wife, Brenda Turner and her teenage daughter, Natalie Turner before turning the gun on himself. Deputies discovered the bodies after losing contact with 17 year-old Natalie Turner, who called 911 asking for help.
Investigators are hoping the 911 call might shed light into what happened inside the home that evening. "You hear some yelling in the background and that's what we're working on determining exactly what was actually said word for word and we actually may send it in for some enhancements because you can't hear some of the words," said Sheriff Fitzgerald.
Unless I am wrong, the officers were dispatched to a “possible suicide attempt.”I was thinking that the suicide inference from the scene was after the responding officer saw the first victim (father I presume), which if so could indicate that a head/facial wound was present, and perhaps he even had a gun/rifle in tow.
JMO.
The incident was changed from "Suicidal Person / Attempted Suicide" to "Homicide" at 3:05:47 by the 911 dispatcher. A little over 2 hours after the first officers arrive on scene.Your cited source is excerpts from an ABC article.
The call type was changed hrs later.
When they found mom, they may have still thought murder/suicide.
You are right though, by 1:30 am (approx) they knew there were no guns present. It didn’t take hrs to figure that out, just to change the call type in the log.
I don't know. I haven't followed the story any further than that.Ummmmmm........are they certain this was a murder suicide?
They are actually up to 2000 tips now. I agree, 12 days isn’t a long time as far as these things go.Personally 12 days isn't that long for the investigation. Jayme yes of course but can you imagine sorting through 1400 tips, family members, telephone records and pinging phones plus the activities of everybody involved. Then preparing from press conferences.
Daunting for sure. Officers working around the clock because those men and women know time is of the essence when a young girl is missing.
Unpopular opinion here, but wow- that is eerie! So similar to what the cops found at Jayme's home. Could one of the parents have done this, and Jayme tried calling for help? Maybe she's so traumatized, she's too scared and hurt emotionally to come home.Barron County also had a very similar call last October. The second paragraph below is almost verbatim what Fitzgerald has said in Jayme's case.
inurner and her teenage daughter, Natalie Turner before turning the gun on himself. Deputies discovered the bodies after losing contact with 17 year-old Natalie Turner, who called 911 asking for help.
Investigators are hoping the 911 call might shed light into what happened inside the home that evening. "You hear some yelling in the background and that's what we're working on determining exactly what was actually said word for word and we actually may send it in for some enhancements because you can't hear some of the words," said Sheriff Fitzgerald.
Barron County also had a very similar call last October. The second paragraph below is almost verbatim what Fitzgerald has said in Jayme's case.
UPDATE: Deputies rule Chetek deaths a murder-suicide
Investigators say 55 year-old John Hengst shot and killed his ex-wife, Brenda Turner and her teenage daughter, Natalie Turner before turning the gun on himself. Deputies discovered the bodies after losing contact with 17 year-old Natalie Turner, who called 911 asking for help.
Investigators are hoping the 911 call might shed light into what happened inside the home that evening. "You hear some yelling in the background and that's what we're working on determining exactly what was actually said word for word and we actually may send it in for some enhancements because you can't hear some of the words," said Sheriff Fitzgerald.
Right, they reported no guns were found at the scene. I don't think their initial assumption of suicide is significant in this case, since the coroner definitively declared it a homicide. JmoUnless I am wrong, the officers were dispatched to a “possible suicide attempt.”
I agree that upon arrival, the father’s body may have had head wounds indicative of a self inflicted gunshot.
I don’t think there was a gun near his body, as they fairly quickly came to the conclusion that this was not a murder/suicide.
Something told them that.