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Moved from where?It looks like it was moved to let that huge truck get by and get as close to the house as possible.
Moved from where?It looks like it was moved to let that huge truck get by and get as close to the house as possible.
Wherever it had been parked. Maybe he had it parked closer to the house near Denises car. Or maybe it was just parked there originally and they would not have had to move it at all. It just appears to parked in the most convenient spot for vehicles to get around it and in front of it.Moved from where?
Yeah, I'm not too sure how much they would have done. I'm sure they would have at least checked it out but I don't know how involved it would have been. Since it was pretty clear the perp didn't use the truck they likely had no reason to believe the victim had been in there at any time. Jmo
Hi Gardener1850- Thanks so much for consolidating the PCs into one post. That will be super helpful for future reference.
To answer your question above, I do not recall the Sheriff answering a question about items missing from the home. With that said, I did watch some of the PCs again just to be sure, and while I didn’t hear anything questions regarding items missing from the home, I transcribed some parts that I found to be relevant. Jmo
Oct 16, 2018 Morning:
WKOW 27
(-4:57) REPORTER: Sheriff, what can you tell us about what may have happened inside the home. Were there signs of a struggle?
SHERIFF FITZGERALD: I can’t comment on that. That’s part of the active investigation. We continue to have teams on scene at the residence to continue to process that scene. We’re working with the state crime lab who’s coming up. We redid the scene just to make sure we didn’t miss anything. We continue to monitor that scene so we’re not going to comment on what took place inside the residence.
Oct 17, 2018 Afternoon:
WKOW 27
(-4:37) SHERIFF FITZGERALD: And no, I wish I was closer to that question, and that question again, let me repeat that, sorry. Is it a random attack, or is it a targeted attack? I don’t know that answer. That is why those leads are so important. Again, we’ve received no other threats or anything in the local area to say that this was just a random act, but we do not know that answer and we continue to follow up on leads to hopefully answer that question.
Oct 22, 2018 Afternoon:
Barron County Sheriff’s Department
(-5:07) REPORTER: Is there any scenario that you’re able to rule out since last week about what happened?
SHERIFF FITZGERALD: No, we have not ruled out anything. We continue to look at this from above to look at all of the aspects, and that’s why every tip is important.
(-2:51) REPORTER: Sheriff, any closer to a motive at this point?
SHERIFF FITZGERALD: We do not exactly know what took place in that residence yet.
(-2:01) REPORTER: People in the county, we’ve been told, are afraid, wondering if this is a random act. Can you give them any assurance?
SHERIFF FITZGERALD: At this time I can’t. We’ve had no other incidents since this, incidents of violence or calls of anything like that, so I can comment that there’s been no other similar cases of violence like this in the community since the date of the incident. But I can’t - I wish I knew a motive. I wish I knew why this took place.
Oct 24, 2018 Afternoon:
KARE 11
(-4:18) REPORTER: Sheriff, can I talk to the FBI guy please?
REPORTER (cont'd): So you’re saying, with all the forensics you’ve done at this point, you’ve not been able to come up with a single suspect? And if not, what is your next step forensically to try to establish or maybe come up with a suspect?
SPECIAL AGENT IN CHARGE, JUSTIN TOLOMEO: Well that’s a joint answer, because the forensics are being worked by all agencies involved, and we continue to look at that information and assess it, and when we have a viable avenue, we will follow it.
REPORTER: So no - you’re saying no suspect?
SPECIAL AGENT IN CHARGE, JUSTIN TOLOMEO: I’m not saying what we have sir, I’m saying what we’re doing.
REPORTER: But no suspect then?
SPECIAL AGENT IN CHARGE, JUSTIN TOLOMEO: Again sir, I’m not saying what we’re having, I’m saying what we’re doing.
(-2:42) REPORTER: Earlier today, we saw some items being taken out of the house, one of them a mattress. What happens to that? Does that become evidence? What is that process?
SHERIFF FITZGERALD: We had another evidence team go back out to the scene today to make sure we didn’t miss anything. As we said, we keep combing over evidence, looking for new things. We had a new team, a new set of eyes come in today and go over that house one more time, to make sure nothing was missed. They did remove some items and those are being processed to see if there’s any new items of evidence.
Maybe. But if he wanted to get in the house quickly he could have parked much closer to the house to decrease the distance from the truck to the house. Since we have no idea what time he came home, or if in fact someone was following him, its impossible to know.I think it looks like someone pulled in and got out very quickly. Not taking time to pull further by the garage and not really taking time to park it even on the drive.
Maybe I watch too man crime shows, but I don't think LE would move it. Course if it had already been processed and cleared they wouldn't be concerned with where it was parked.
I still think he was followed home and he was trying to get inside quickly.
Yes, we can just add it to the list of impossibles to know. It is so baffling and it will probably turn out to be so obvious. I wish we were privy to more detail.Maybe. But if he wanted to get in the house quickly he could have parked much closer to the house to decrease the distance from the truck to the house. Since we have no idea what time he came home, or if in fact someone was following him, its impossible to know.
It looks like it was moved to let that huge truck get by and get as close to the house as possible.
This is one theory I have. Either followed home or came home to something going on in the house. Logically he would have parked next to Denise. Or this could have also been his normal spot. I dont believe LE moved it because its more in the way compared to being moved further back toward the garage. I also agree they would not have relocated anything from that scene.I think it looks like someone pulled in and got out very quickly. Not taking time to pull further by the garage and not really taking time to park it even on the drive.
Maybe I watch too man crime shows, but I don't think LE would move it. Course if it had already been processed and cleared they wouldn't be concerned with where it was parked.
I still think he was followed home and he was trying to get inside quickly.
Especially if he only stole a few items. Assuming he thought he'd hit the jackpot - an empty house guaranteed to have no owner returning to - he could have hauled out a heck of a lot more items, even if he was on a bicycle... in a backpack or a few bags. I still don't think he was taking anything for Jayme, if she is still alive, or else it'd be practical items like jeans, shoes, socks, a COAT... not underwear and a few tops and a dress. But ... is he of a small stature? Would a 13 yr old's items fit a grown small man?
Hard to imagine. That could be a clue (or not) here. He'd have to be awfully thin and small.
Before I was ever on WS I was following this case on news sources. My first gut reaction was that someone was really mad at Mr. Closs because of the rage.This is one theory I have. Either followed home or came home to something going on in the house. Logically he would have parked next to Denise. Or this could have also been his normal spot. I dont believe LE moved it because its more in the way compared to being moved further back toward the garage. I also agree they would not have relocated anything from that scene.
What challenger at Jennie-o???? I had not heard this. Is there a link?Before I was ever on WS I was following this case on news sources. My first gut reaction was that someone was really mad at Mr. Closs because of the rage.
The first account I heard was that he came home from work and the rampage ensued. Immediately I thought of a disgruntled employee following him home. I can't rationalize any other scenario. I still feel there is a tie to the Challenger they located at Jennie O. Too coincidental...
About a week ago, when those vehicles of interest were identified, someone called in a tip to LE saying that a Dodge Challenger matching the description put out by police, was parked at the Jennie-O’s.What challenger at Jennie-o???? I had not heard this. Is there a link?
As someone mentioned previously, perp could have gone to wrong neighboring address, OR maybe ONE OF THE victims had previously tipped off police or work management about possible drug activity and the perps were out for revenge. Jmo.