2010.09.07 - Ron talking to LE per AH on JVM

[suspicious1]

Dont forget the individual in the "we". I think it was Aunt Lisa per Misty's LVA test. Always wanted to hear from this "we" individual, I guess local reporters didnt try or maybe the "we" individual just said NO Comment. I thought maybe the "we" individual could shed some light on the description of the shirts GMS put on the children. Maybe JVM or NG could invite the "we" individual on their show!

Oh yeah, I almost forgot about that! IMO, the "we" that they are referring to is TERESA. Even Lt. Greenwood said that Teresa was there that evening. Teresa comment about sending a family member over there, that's not really implying that she wasn't with this family member. Just a thought.

So this "we" individual could shed some light on the situation and she's already been on NG.:dance:

JMO of course

 

[luvmygarden]

So does that mean Ron's MH was set up as a red herring? Now with no evidence there it all makes sense. The blanket stories were to make it believable, washing, drying. Where did the blanket go that MC said "they took"? Were the kids moved to magnolia to be babysat for so MC could go out and someone said grab an extra blanket?
Where is HaLeigh? Wish someone knew!!!!!!!!

 

[Whisperer]

I had no idea ron called the landline at Magnolia...Wow! Does that mean that someone at the residence actually picked up the phone?

 

[Whisperer]

:waitasec:
Wouldn't the magnolia addy be a perfect place for wbg to meet up with misty that night? He said himself that only a fool would lay down with a woman in another man's house. He stated he spoke with her on Monday..maybe they made arrangements to meet there.

 

[Whisperer]

If misty did not stay at tommy's or ron's on Sunday night, who drove her to ron's on Monday?

 

[Nonni Brenda]

Hi Mew!



Hmm. Didn't he say that he passed a LDT with flying colors way back in the beginning? Now he's apparently admitted that he has lied about what happened. So, did he lie about passing the earlier LDT or did he pass it while lying through his teeth? Did LE screw up asking him only easy questions that he could answer truthfully?

Either way he's a liar. SHAME on him, whatever it was that was more important than finding out what happened to his only daughter.



Good point.
I'm back to wondering if Tommy ever went to the MH at all. If something happened to Haleigh at Tommy's parents' house and that's where he was when RC called him, what was the motivation to go to the MH?

Was the Croslin residence ever searched? They moved outta there pretty quick.

If someone has answered this, sorry, i missed it. Is HC sr. and lisa's house the same as where the first 911 call at 213am supposedly came in? If not how far away is Hank's and Lisa's from Ron's mh?

 

[TakeNote]

Im just now reading this thread......so sorry if someone has said the same thing....i really believe that there was some other crime going on or had gone on that ties all these guys together some how.....perhaps another murder.......

now that Ron is in jail and facing big time....he might have felt he didnt have much to lose..... make a deal .....tell LE about another other crime that happend and not have it held against him if he tells the truth on what he knows.........the gun may hold the key to all of this???

 

[dodie20]

Totally outta left field here but remember that little make shift chair in the woods by Ron's trailer? Would he have hidden there and sat there waiting to catch Tommy and or Joe trying to steal his gun? He obviously knew they were looking for it. That night though he had to go to work and leave Misty in charge. I don't think he trusted her to not give up his gun hence the hiding of it and the numerous phone calls to check up. He was pizzed at her that night but needed a babysitter. Toxic, toxic situation! :furious:

Also-Hi everyone! :wave: Long time no "see". Love to you all xoxo :hug:

You know? That chair is one of those random things, that I can't forget. Was it ever determined who it belonged to? I wish police had investigated it, & then released the information, because otherwise, it seems too creepy to be coincidence. If the reports are true that Tommy walked the neighborhood in the middle of the night, I'd guess that it might be his, but I don't know if those rumors were ever verified. & then again, the chair might've belonged to some little kid, but LE should've said so. too many unanswered questions. That chair, is what made me originally think that Haleigh was being watched by a sexual predator, & I never heard an explanation.

 

[Nonni Brenda]

Bessie... I remember at the time thinking you've got to be kidding me, you can't even get the phone calls sorted out. I mean it really should have been a simple process. It usually is. Now, I wonder what all was in the texts that needs to be hid...perhaps some peeps were named that LE sure does not want to be public knowledge? Hint Hint...aaachhhooomerchant. :angel:

BBM...God bless you Teh. Have a cold?:innocent:

 

[dodie20]

Ron would have lost more than his son if he was found to have an illegal firearm. He would have been facing Federal charges which could mean a very large fine and a heavy sentence in a Federal prison.

With that in mind, I for one, can see Ron hiding ownership of a specific gun in order to avoid those type of charges. Losing his son would have been second in Ron Cummings mind. IMO, Ron would first be motivated by protecting himself and not his children.

JMO

You are so right. If Ron was worried that those guns would cause him to lose custody, then he wouldn't have had the guns in the 1st place. But about him finally coming clean...I'm thinking that it's possible, that it has been determined that the gun fight is NOT connected to Haleigh's disappearance, so Ron has no reason to lie anymore. If the gun fight was the motive, then he would be involved, but if the gun fight has been excluded as the motive, then he feels safe admitting the truth, because it erases his involvement. So, Ron may have lied, until he knew he was in the clear.

 

[krkrjx]

You are so right. If Ron was worried that those guns would cause him to lose custody, then he wouldn't have had the guns in the 1st place. But about him finally coming clean...I'm thinking that it's possible, that it has been determined that the gun fight is NOT connected to Haleigh's disappearance, so Ron has no reason to lie anymore. If the gun fight was the motive, then he would be involved, but if the gun fight has been excluded as the motive, then he feels safe admitting the truth, because it erases his involvement. So, Ron may have lied, until he knew he was in the clear.

Dodie, you may be right.

Personally, I suspect Ron is now setting the stage for himself to jump on the "Joe did it" bandwagon if he has in fact admitted there was a fight over a gun.

 

[Nonni Brenda]

Ronald C adamantly denied Jo was ever there that day..Now how in the HELL-O he would even know IF he was at work, like he claims, but thats what he stated..
Also Misty never mentioned Jo was there and she never mentioned GGMS was there either..However we do have GGMS herself stating she was there that night, and my understanding is there was someone else with her....JMHO

Rc has definitely distanced himself from 2 things; the gun and JO. I'm not sure that MC and TC even know what happened. Looks like they are just maknig up 1 story after another to see what sticks. Could it be possible that the only one's there were RC and JO and Haleigh, before RC went to work, and they had a fight over the gun, and H was shot? Just speculating.:waitasec:

 

[Emeralgem]

If misty did not stay at tommy's or ron's on Sunday night, who drove her to ron's on Monday?

What time are you speaking of and how do we even know she was at Ron's on Monday..
I know GGMS stated she went over there and saw an alive Haleigh,and gave Misty clean clothes to take inside the MH, but frankly I don't believe that story..
Tommy, as far as I know has never stated he was there that afternoon.. Lord only knows about the ac man..We don't even know who he is or IF he saw Misty there either..JMHO

 

[justus4all]

Rc has definitely distanced himself from 2 things; the gun and JO. I'm not sure that MC and TC even know what happened. Looks like they are just maknig up 1 story after another to see what sticks. Could it be possible that the only one's there were RC and JO, before RC went to work, and the had a fight over the gun, and H was shot? Just speculating.:waitasec:

That is a possibility ....but......Where did this take place?

IMO...Not at Ron's....There would have been evidence...

Possibly at the Magnolia residence????

 

[dodie20]

Dodie, you may be right.

Personally, I suspect Ron is now setting the stage for himself to jump on the "Joe did it" bandwagon if he has in fact admitted there was a fight over a gun.

you could be right, but when I think of Ron, the overriding characteristic, that jumps out, is him looking out for his own best interest. & I can see him lieing, to keep his name completely out of the motive, or until he was garunteed no criminal charges. MOO.

 

[Nonni Brenda]

That is a possibility ....but......Where did this take place?

IMO...Not at Ron's....There would have been evidence...

Possibly at the Magnolia residence????

Okay,what about this...just thinking out loud here. Maybe Jo had stolen a gun and went back to where he had been staying, Timmy's or maybe even Hank's and Lisa's and RC went there to confront JO; Haleigh was with him ??? I don't know, just fishing. Not even my opinion, speculation only.

 

[LoveEndsWar]

Dee10, I found that odd, too. I was thinking that LE asked about the relationships between Ron and the people involved who were supposedly at the trailer that night...for a reason. I know we have heard about all the calls
made that night but something tells me that those calls were not only to Misty, he77, we know at least one of those calls was made to Tommy. IMO, Ron called quite a few people that night.
I think LE has phone records and that is why when Tommy got locked up in August, i think, they questioned him about that particular call between him and RON. I don't know if they got Ron or Tommy's phone records, but something tells me that Ron didn't just offer up that information to LE....so there had to be something in black and white. Ron did not deny that call was made but he denied the reason for the call. Not to mention that Ron initiated the call....So what did Ron want? IMO, this particular phone call is crucial to this investigation. This may even be when Tommy comes into play. It's funny how LE was focused on a call initiated by Ron to Tommy. IMO, LE has known for quite some time that Ron had information regarding what happened to Haleigh, they just couldn't get it out of him. IMO, that's why the drug sting was formed. It went as planned, and their main targets are now sitting behind bars with extremely high bonds. Ron included.

Who were all the people supposedly at the trailer that day? Jo, Misty, Tommy, GMSykes, A/C repair man, Teresa (per Lt. Greenwood)...am I missing anybody?

I thought Lindsy said she went by with the kids too?

 

[justus4all]

BBM

See that's what I don't understand....We have Ron's lawyer saying that Ron didnt ask Tommy to go check on Misty because Ron had been in touch with her during the evening. So would it be safe to assume that Ron already knew where Misty was, therefore, it was his reason for claiming that he did not ask Tommy to go check on her? If that's the case, then why the need to call Tommy at all? It was reported that the call was made to Magnolia St. address, so Ron called that house for a reason. Now, I think that's where Misty was all along and Ron knew that. Maybe this phone call was initiated by Ron while "Misty and Tommy were sitting on the couch":waitasec:.

There was once a theory (Emeralgem) that maybe when Misty supposedly picked up Haleigh that afternoon and headed in the opposite direction of the mh, that she was headed to the Magnolia address....that maybe Ron caught up with Misty there and something happened to Haleigh in that area. Too many things point towards this area: Tommy directs LE to this area to search the dock, Chelsea gives GMFlo exact directions to a spot in this area starting from the Magnolia address as to where to find Haleigh, Misty had to warn the Cummings that this area was going to be searched, The Cummings search this area for hours, then LE searched the area and turned this into a HOMOCIDE investigation......now we learn Ron called the landline of Magnolia address around 9pm-ish....
This is not a coincidence. But it fits. I, personally, believe that Ron called over to the Magnolia address. If Ron wasn't calling for Tommy to go and check on Misty, IMO, Ron was calling for assistance.

JMO of course

bolded by me.....

IMO..taking all that we know....it seems to lead towards....something tragic went down .......at the Magnolia residence..

IMO...There was a clean up there by the various players and Ron's MH was "staged' to look like Haleigh was taken from there.....

all in my own opinion

 

[Nonni Brenda]

I will be back 2 hrs. sorry, hv an appt im late for.

 

[Emeralgem]

Rc has definitely distanced himself from 2 things; the gun and JO. I'm not sure that MC and TC even know what happened. Looks like they are just maknig up 1 story after another to see what sticks. Could it be possible that the only one's there were RC and JO, before RC went to work, and the had a fight over the gun, and H was shot? Just speculating.:waitasec:

I believe MC knows more than TC and it is possible TC may even know more than Jo..
I suspect Ron C directed and orchestrated the whole coverup with help from his mother and other family members and knows everything and what he knows, his family knows..
Do I think Ron C and Jo were there alone when the incident happened.. No..I don't...Tommy has stated Jo went ballistic when he walked in to the bedroom and saw a deceased Haleigh...