2011.01.06 Baez Slapped with Formal Sanction

[Numbers]

I hope your memory is the correct version.

CYA, kwim?


you're prob right. HHJP is a smart man.

So back to the original question --

Will we ever see this under any circumstances?

 

[Omachka]

Anyone recall the date of the court hearing when Slabaugh was present at the front of the court for some type of thing? (a swearing in?)

December 1st after the hearing on the State's Motion to Compel.

 

[SunnyinMO]

Did the investigators and prosecution experts really claim the body had been left in an upright position? How did I miss that? Was it in Dr. G's report?

I have frantically been going through my notes and find NOTHING stating the postion of the 'body' except a vague mention of the outline of the trunk stain with the suggestion of a child in the fetal position. :waitasec:

 

[JSR]

So back to the original question --

Will we ever see this under any circumstances?

No, I don't believe so. Unless part of the transcript is attached as part of an exhibit or if it's quoted in a motion or order. But if it was admitted as an exhibit I would assume a party would need leave to file such an exhibit.

 

[ZsaZsa]

Slabaugh didn't even call the clerk's office to ask about faxing, he called CM's assistant. And he called her on Dec. 14th, THE due date. So, I guess he is learning a lot from Baez, LOL.

I'm sure that during the long traffic hold-up Mr Slabaugh could have phoned in to JB to express his concerns about getting there on time ( although he was 5 hrs later than he thought) and JB or CM could have picked up the phone to call HHJP- from what we have seen HHJP has made himself available by cellphone and email, and a message could have got to him to ask for a one day extension.
None of this happened. You have to wonder why...
HHJP has already addressed his lack of compliance, so why do they think he is going to be willing to re-visit the topic?

 

[krisskross]

Is Baez trying to be thrown off this case?
:bang:

 

[AlwaysShocked]

attorney Cheney Mason has filed a lengthy motion asking the court to reconsider the sanction imposed against fellow defense attorney Jose Baez last week for failing to turn over discovery information to the prosecution.

The 12-page motion also provides additional details about what defense expert witnesses will testify about during depositions and, presumably, at trial.

"The defense has, because of the intervening actions, provided the above information in an effort to, not only fulfill the requirements of the court, but also show a good faith effort in complying with this court's directions," Mason wrote.

Full article: http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/os-jose-baez-sanction-appeal-20110111,0,4602564.story

 

[logicalgirl]

I have frantically been going through my notes and find NOTHING stating the postion of the 'body' except a vague mention of the outline of the trunk stain with the suggestion of a child in the fetal position. :waitasec:

Didn't Dr. G. say the duct tape had been holding the mandible in place and it had fallen down somewhat to below the chin with the loss of tissue? I seem to remember the skull was held in place face up with root growth through it.

 

[ZsaZsa]

I have frantically been going through my notes and find NOTHING stating the postion of the 'body' except a vague mention of the outline of the trunk stain with the suggestion of a child in the fetal position. :waitasec:

The only body part that was found upright IIRC was the skull. There were no soft tissues or muscles left to hold her skeleton in any position and they were scattered on the ground.

 

[beach]

So back to the original question --

Will we ever see this under any circumstances?

No, I don't believe so. Unless part of the transcript is attached as part of an exhibit or if it's quoted in a motion or order. But if it was admitted as an exhibit I would assume a party would need leave to file such an exhibit.

I think at the end of the day, it will be a part of the official transcript. IOW, when this goes up on appeal, it will be included for the appellate court's consideration.

I really don't know about "released for public consumption" before the end of trial though. They are called "sidebars" for a reason. In this case, I think HHJP wanted to make sure there was NO MISUNDERSTANDING and a issue a strong private warning to cut out the BS.

Maybe AZ can clarify.

 

[kaRN]

HHJP asked CM if there was a particular reason why the documents were not submitted on time. CM responded that he didn't know. At that point JB should have jumped up and related the traffic emergency story, but he didn't, he just stared straight ahead.. Oh, that's right, they just thought it up...

ITA!! The closing statement about this not being a forced or corced statement sealed the deal for me. Maybe it's just straight fraud. The guy wasn't coerced, he's just that immoral. I don't imagine any ethical intern would work 2 consecutive days for JB let alone since 2009 but here you have it. Is this the lawyer JB delayed BP from attending another trial last month so he could be sworn in?
JB had his moment to explain in court and gave this whole story that contradicts his witnesses actually. JB said he was waiting for additional materials, cd's blah blah that didn't arrive until it was too late. No mention of any traffic issues, 300 pages of CV's and arriving 2 minutes after the deadline at 5:02. Wasn't the deadline 12pm? The deal breaker to BP IMO was not the delay but the lack of communication regarding it. Had he called BP does anyone think the judge wouldn't have worked with them and had someone stay late until 5:02, a whole 4 minutes of overtime, to receive this huge filing?? Of course he would have. He's starts court at 5pm if needed.
I clench my jaw so tightly when I read this drivel it makes my teeth hurt. If they put even a fraction of the energy into defending their client as they do in motions like this there would be no need for sanctions.
LOL should mean lying old lawyer because this is too sad to be funny..

 

[whiteangora]

I have frantically been going through my notes and find NOTHING stating the postion of the 'body' except a vague mention of the outline of the trunk stain with the suggestion of a child in the fetal position. :waitasec:

There was nothing ever said or written about the position of the body as far as I know. It was Kronk who said the skull was upright and the defense misunderstood as usual. How could placement of the body ever be determined when the bones were scattered over an acre after a hurricane and wild animals carried them?

 

[watergirl]

The only body part that was found upright IIRC was the cranium. There were no soft tissues or muscles left to hold her skeleton in any position and they were scattered on the ground.

That's what I remember too.

 

[Misty_Pie]

Looks like another oops on page 11, number 11. I think they meant the Defense not the State.

The Court included that in the Order that the State experts had been "retained at tax payer's expense". This is not accurate. Some of the experts have or will submit requests for reimbursement of expenses in accordance with the schedule of the JAC. [It also should not be overlooked that the State bears no such burden or restrictions with respect to the hiring of their experts.]

 

[JSR]

I think at the end of the day, it will be a part of the official transcript. IOW, when this goes up on appeal, it will be included for the appellate court's consideration.

I really don't know about "released for public consumption" before the end of trial though. They are called "sidebars" for a reason. In this case, I think HHJP wanted to make sure there was NO MISUNDERSTANDING and a issue a strong private warning to cut out the BS.

Maybe AZ can clarify.

Correct, either way the public and fellow WS'ers will likely never see that humdinger. I sure would have loved to be a fly on the wall.

 

[luv]

I hope your memory is the correct version.

CYA, kwim?


you're prob right. HHJP is a smart man.

@ around the 25:19 mark.

RAW VIDEO: Casey Hearing Pt. 3
http://www.wftv.com/video/26354915/index.html

 

[Numbers]

"The inner aspect of the cranial cavity is examined with light and reveals sandy dirt and an attached small incisor which is adhered to the inside of the calvarium with dirt."

Autopsy Report, Page 8

Eat THAT, Dr. Spitz!

 

[The World According]

Is Baez trying to be thrown off this case?
:bang:

They both appear to be, and I have never seen such a concentrated effort!!! They sure aren't trying to propely defend Casey, imo.

For the life of me, I do not know what they are doing. http://www.google.com/search?q=case...esult_group&ct=title&resnum=1&ved=0CCkQqwQwAA

 

[SunnyinMO]

Does this mean we can expect to see Baez carted off to jail next time?

We would hear the roar of WOOHOO and HOT DAMN across the whole country.:great::great:

Does anyone know why Casey was not require to be at the last hearing? And do you think she will be there Friday??

 

[The World According]

"The inner aspect of the cranial cavity is examined with light and reveals sandy dirt and an attached small incisor which is adhered to the inside of the calvarium with dirt."

Autopsy Report, Page 8

Eat THAT, Dr. Spitz!

Can I borrow this to send to the news media?
One word....
Guilty!

Numbers, this is brilliant and so fast. If you found it in two minutes flat, how egregious is it that Cheney Mason could not find it? IMO, Casey Anthony truly does have ineffective counsel and in the words of Mark Nejame, "I am being overly generous in my characterization!"

Great job friend!!!!! http://www.wftv.com/pdf/19801498/detail.html

That is both my personal and professional opinion.

How many times can Cheney use the aw shucks, I am one old boy as an excuse for motions that are wrong on the facts and wrong on the law? When is HE ever going to be held accountable? He has told the judge he had no idea, etc. when the tapes of the hearings say otherwise. What gives?

http://www.google.com/search?q=case...esult_group&ct=title&resnum=1&ved=0CCkQqwQwAA