2011.05.28 TRIAL Day Five (Morning Session Only)

[Softail]

Cindy admitting that she felt upset, betrayed!

 

[smart blonde]

The whole time Casey was supposedly in Jacksonville with 'Jeff Hopkins' and his imaginary son 'Zachary', ICA was really hiding out at Tony's house, and Caylee was already dead.

 

[MyTinkieGirl]

JB and DS are BOTH typing stuff...maybe everything CA's saying......wonder if they're gonna spend the whole weekend comparing EVERY word of CA's testimony with prior interviews and depo's to try to say she's lying....

 

[BigFatMommyDog]

wow ICAs face when CA said "betrayed"


sniff, so what

 

[TonyGatto]

"I really thought I knew what was going on". Uh. No.

 

[Azcrabcakes]

Wait until the jury hears, after all this "Zanny" talk, that she never even existed. Wow will they be shocked!

Does the jury really think still that Zanny and the rest of the imaginary entourage still exists?

 

[strawberry]

CAs beginning to ramble.

 

[Tuffy]

You know, there are moments during all this testimony and the unfolding exposure of all the fantastic LIES that I almost get this feeling........this WOULD be kinda funny ....IF IT WASN'T SO UTTERLY TRAGIC AND SAD, SAD, SAD.......AND THE REAL FOCUS IS A BEAUTIFUL LITTLE GIRL who is gone from this life....

(guess that's my moments of "comic relief"....the work I used to do literally begged for such, also)

I think that's exactly how a lot of us feel about it, too.

 

[Stella5]

If only CA had called the police July 3rd when she realized ICA was lying out her arse, maybe... just maybe... that precious baby, Caylee Marie, would have been found and we would have COD to blow ICA out of the water and into the death chamber at Lowell.

Poor Cindy. As a mother, my heart is absolutely breaking for her right now.

 

[epiphany]

CA re the MySpace---i was hoping ICA would contact me; my way of venting

 

[jon_burrows]

ICA didn't know her myspace was going public. She thought it would be private.

Knowing what we know about ICA that myspace post would have infuriated her.

IMO

 

[eaglemom]

CA - my way of venting without getting on the phone and yelling at her and getting upset

 

[wenwe4]

CA w/LDB . . communicated daily w/kc . .thought she knew where she was . . .week of 6/30 - 7/4 . . .off work . . .still @ Hardrock Hotel in Orlando? at that point CA thought she was headed back to work on Monday . . .? . . .need to collect thoughts for a moment . . .CA knows was expecting to watch CAylee on the vacation . . can't remember the excuse @ that point . . still hanging w/JH or not . . .if KC working . . .no need to have ZTN watch Caylee CA wanted to do that . . .told KC . . .unable to watch CAylee . . kc working on event had to do with set up for kids . . .sometimes work with make a wish . . .pool party event for kids on site . . fun event for Caylee . . not sure if Zak was there . . .Annabelle to be there with Juliette . . date @ park . . kids could be with characters ... CA wanted to go . .watch Caylee and take pics . . .oraganized group ...all tickets gone and unable to get family member in . .. kc was going to check in with Caylee ....7/4 weekend . . Caylee entertained @ pool party @ Universal . . .20-30 minute drive in normal traffic from Hopespring to Universal . . .CA drove out to Universal . . .what prompted that? earlier that day had some issues . . wanted to talk kc and see Caylee . . .spend at least 1 day . . .kc said she was @ Universal. Issues? Money issues? Yes . . .talked onthe phone didn't resolve money issues . . wanted to talk face to face with kc /when CA left the bank . . .drove to Universal ...went to guest services . . didn't buy ticket . .didn't see Caylee and kc ..called kc from Guest services waited there told her to meet and talk . . .KC said she wasn't there . . .in Jacksonville FL a complete shock to CA . . .kc & CAylee w/Jeff followed him back to condo in Jacksonville rekindle more than their friendship . . .gone very well during those days. ..didn't want to tell cA she had left town without seeing Caylee . . around 3:00 pm on 7/3 ...CA had no idea if she was in Jacksonville ...lied to CA for past couple of days . . .she was at work then @ Jacksonville . . .believed and didn't believe . . .had my doubts she was in Jacksonville ...on 7/3 asked LA help locating KC? Yes . .prior to that spoke w/LA one of her best friends lived in Jacksonville . . . Ryan Pasley would confirm . . reached out to Ryan . . .RP thought she was coming . . kc was arranging to see him . . .CA then thought she was in Jacksonville . . . RP wanted to get together w/kc . . .but RP hadnot seen KC by the time CA called him . ..CA reached out to LA see if kc confided in him . . .LA hadn't spoken to her in past few days. Never been on myspace before ...LA told CA chatter on myspace or facebook downtown church street action is . . . kc & LA had lot mutual friends . ..kc mentioned she would be downtown during 4th July time period . . .LA research to see where KC in Orlando or Jax . . .LA said she was downtown ...CA felt betrayed . . .venting . . .LA saw new photos of kc myspace . . . she posted to kc on myspace how she felt . . .thought kc was theonly one who would read it . . .kc would friend her on myspace ...she would understand CA feelings that date of being betrayed ...exhibit MG ...myspace post

 

[tlcya]

MS account created in effort ot reach out to ICA and express feelings.

 

[21merc7]

KC really really angry

 

[shezcrafti]

Here comes the MySpace message.

 

[RR0004]

What about TL? was she still "dating" him?

She wasn't in Jacksonville...she was with either at Tony's or Amy's or wherever.
(Tony was in NY from 6/30 on)

 

[Chiquita71]

LDB: mrs anthony we were talking about you sleeping with a teddy bear?

yes

LDB: did you discover the bear was missing?

I started sleeping with teddy that weekend and after four or five nights I noticed it was missing.

LDB: did you tell your daughter you were sleeping with teddy?

not during that time, after all of this

LDB: we will get back to that, lets talk about the time frame at the end of the week. on june 25 26 27th since they had been gone did you see them?

no I did not

LDB: were you expecting a return when the zanny at the hospital was done?

Casey said there was a concussion and maybe internal bleeding and keep her for observation. So Casey stayed up there with her, late thursday night, they brought Zanny to the hard rock and was coming home friday.

LDB: come home friday june ?

she would bring Caylee to work, I was hoping she would, we all loved it.

LDB: did that happen?

no

LDB: why?

sometime in the early afternoon Casey told me she thought she would be off that afternoon but she got back and had to go in for a few hours to work. I was supposed to see them at home later that evening.

LDB: did you see them?

no

LDB: why not?

that evening Casey called her friend jeffery had moved out of state and in 2008 at that time I was under the impression they had dated and Casey liked Jeff alot and Jeff was in town and staying in Orlando and had heard about Zanny and Zachery was Jeffs little son who was the age of Caylee and Casey thought it would be fun for Caylee to see Zach. I am just the grandma.

LDB: ?

yes jeffery was very close to Zanny

LDB: you testified that Jeffery was a suitor?

yes

LDB: ever met?

no, many times supposed to me from the fall of 2006 thru 2007 up until probably um nov dec of 2007 Casey and Jeff were you know close, they started out as good friendship and grew as she described as someone down the road someone she would want to settle down with. We were going to go to sea world to meet him, christmas of 2007 going to meet Jeffs mom and get pics with santa...

LDB: that event with santa did not occur?

only with Casey Caylee and myself. I was told zack had an asthma attack.

LDB: since jeff hopkins and Zachery was in town, Casey and Caylee were supposedly where?

close to universal, a hotel hardrock or whatever? Jeff had worked there to and had connections. He was staying there and they were going to meet up and have dinner and Casey was supposed to come home late late that night.

LDB: did that happen?

no

LDB: why?

my impression of Jeff is he had a trust fund, he was well of and didn't need to work if he didn't want to. he invited Casey and Zanny and the kids to stay and Casey was jumping at the chance he was very stable as she described and kids the same age, and I thought who am I to interferer with that? she was a grown woman, independent person, she wasn't a kid. I never had control of Casey once she was 21 out of love where you were at, it wasn't manditoy her daughter she can do whatever but when they were available young woman who needs to move on with her life, I will not interfere with that.

LDB: ?

five or six weeks of vaca you have to use it can't carry over. took another one after having taken one.

LDB: through the fourth of july?

yes

LDB: back on monday after holiday?

I believe I went back on monday

LDB: when you learned about the party suite at the hard rock were you expecting they were going to be there an extended amount of time?

I expected her to get clothes and that never happened weekends are me and George have plans, might have gone to the beach. I'm not sitting home all this time and just waiting for my daughter and granddaughter I had other things in my life to do to.

LDB: as that progressed daily communication with Casey?

yes, I communicate with her at all times. I thought I knew where she was.

LDB: the week of june 30th july 1st and you are off. did you find out if they were still at the hard rock in Orlando?

oh, um I am trying to think...at that point I believe she was headed back to work on monday and zanny was going to watch Caylee monday night...I am sorry if I can collect my thoughts for a moment. I expected to watch Caylee on my vaca and I don't know if they were still hanging with jeff or not.

LDB: you thought if you are off, why have zanny watch Caylee?

yes

LDB: did you express that?

yes

LDB: were you able?

no

LDB: why not?

Casey was working an event that was set up for kids, make a wish foundation and there was a pool party event they were having for children on site and she said it would be fun for Caylee. I am not sure if jeff would be there with zack but annabell would be there with ?. I couldn't get in because I said I would like to watch Caylee and take pictures and she said no. There was an organized group who would watch Caylee. She would be able to come down during the day and check on her.

LDB: while you thought Caylee was being entertained at a party...how far is universal?

thirty minute drive

LDB: at some point did you decide to drive out to universal?

yes, july 3rd

LDB: what prompted that?

earlier that day I had issues and I really wanted to talk to Casey about those issues and I really wanted to see Caylee. I talked to Casey earlier and...

LDB: money issues?

yes

LDB: spoke on phone?

resolve issues?

no I wanted to do it face to face, I figured since I am at universal I might as well, I parked and went to guest services and talk to her and pick up Caylee.

LDB: once you arrive did you see Casey and Caylee?

no I called Casey from cell phone, she did not know I was coming. I said can I talk to you and she told me she was not there, at universal studios.

LDB: where was she?

in Jacksonville FL which came as a complete shock, what are you doing there? She followed jeff back to his condo in jacksonville and was going to try and rekindle more than their friendship because it has gone well those days he was in town and she didn't want me to know that she had left town with Caylee and it was a shock and I was upset. somewhere around three o clock.

LDB: did you think she was in jacksonville?

I had no idea, when she told me she was in jacksonville I didn't know what to think I realized she had lied to me for a few days, I didn't know what to make of it it all came to me very quick. I had my doubts she was in jacksonville

LDB: on july 3rd at some point did you get Lee to help?

yes, prior to that I called a friend in jacksonville and asked if he spoke to Casey.

LDB: who?

Ryan Pasley

I was at universal when I reached out to Ryan. Ryan said she had contacted him that they needed to get together he had not seen her yet by the time we had spoken so I started shifting my thoughts that she was in jacksonville.

LDB: you call lee?

I reached out to Lee if Casey had talked to him and he hadn't spoken to her for a few days.

LDB: after eight evening july 3rd, did you create a myspace account?

yes, I had never been on myspace before and Lee's impression was Casey was not in jacksonville, the chatter is downtown where the action is, Casey and Lee have a lot of mutual friends that Casey had mentioned she would be downtown during the fourth of july weekend and do search through friends if Casey was in jacksonville or in town. I was angry upset and felt betrayed that I didn't know exactly. I was venting. Plus Lee said he had seen new photos on myspace and if I posted it and asked Casey to be my friend I thought only Casey would see it. How she made me feel and hoping she would contact me through myspace. it was my way of venting without yelling or getting on the phone.

 

[sleutherontheside]

OMG...are we going to hear Cindy read the myspace page?

 

[Oakley]

Not so sure about that - they may wonder how a mother/grandmother could believe this convoluted story from a daughter who has been lying to her all of these years.
They may conclude that CA is the one who is nuts.

BBM Cindy's not on trial for killing Caylee, though, Casey is. And Cindy is coming across as very lucid and credible, IMO.